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FBI Chief Unhappy With Supreme Court Ruling
kwtx.com ^ | July 1, 2008 | NA

Posted on 07/01/2008 10:54:32 AM PDT by neverdem

The director of the FBI is not happy with the Supreme Court's recent handgun ruling.

Robert Mueller says he tends to believe that "weapons harm people, and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

Mueller said the high court's decision, which threw out a handgun ban in Washington, D.C., "does throw a lot of things up in the air."

Mueller said communities will now have to decide their own licensing programs.

Mueller was speaking at a convention of the International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Administrators in Hartford, Connecticut.

He says with his grandchildren going to college, he hopes "those campuses will be weapons-free."


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To: kabar

And the inmates have been in charge of the assylum for many decades. Some say for 400 years.


181 posted on 07/01/2008 12:56:54 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: pgkdan
Other than Alito and Roberts on the court has Bush brought ANY true conservatives to serve in his administration???

The guy who was over the FBI, Attorney General John Ashcroft, was pretty good, at least on the RKBA. He wrote:

let me state unequivocally my view that the text and the original intent of the Second Amendment clearly protect the right of individuals to keep and bear firearms.

While some have argued that the Second Amendment guarantees only a “collective” right of the States to maintain militias, I believe the Amendment’s plain meaning and original intent prove otherwise. Like the First and Fourth Amendments, the Second Amendment protects the rights of “the people” which the Supreme Court has noted is a term of art that should be interpreted consistently throughout the Bill of Rights. United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259, 265 (1990) (plurality opinion). Just as the First and Fourth Amendment secure individual rights of speech and security respectively, the Second Amendment protects an individuals right to keep and bear arms. This view of the text comports with the all but unanimous understanding of the Founding Fathers. See, e.g. Federalist No. 45 (Madison); Federalist No. 29 (Hamilton); see also, Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1764 (“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”). George Mason at Virginia’s U.S. Constitution ratification convention 1788 (“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people . . . To Disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”)
...
In light of this vast body of evidence, I believe it is clear that the Constitution protects the private ownership of firearms for lawful purposes. As I was reminded during my confirmation hearing, some hold a different view and would, in effect, read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution. I must respectfully disagree with this view

182 posted on 07/01/2008 12:57:29 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: green iguana
He said officers were yelling and asked what he had in his hand.
''I said, 'the (expletive removed) phone','' Robinson said.

Not too bright up Lubbock way...

183 posted on 07/01/2008 12:58:36 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: El Gato; HwyChile

I haven’t heard too many liberal Mayors in Texas whinning. Maybe I just tune it out.


184 posted on 07/01/2008 12:58:36 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: neverdem

Herr Mueller is in the wrong job.

A man who doesn’t respect Constitutional Rights doesn’t deserve a position of authority and respect with the United
States.


185 posted on 07/01/2008 12:58:57 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: neverdem

Considering the FBI had to settle with Steven Hatfill for $5.8M because the Bureau tried to take away his rights, I suppose we should all be delighted the Founders set up the checks and balances and didn’t leave ALL authority to ‘law enforcement agencies.’

God bless all those dead white guys!


186 posted on 07/01/2008 1:00:23 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: MrB

And, just wondering, how exactly is he going to keep criminals from taking weapons on the college campuses that his grandchildren will attend?


By reciting

I HAVE A DREAM

and

6 HAIL MARX’s
6 HAIL MACHIAVELLI’s
6 HAIL satan’s

while facing in the direction of the Georgia Guidestones

[ http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm ]


187 posted on 07/01/2008 1:02:06 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Dead Corpse

Least they stopped shooting long enough to ask. Guy’s lucky to be alive.


188 posted on 07/01/2008 1:02:18 PM PDT by green iguana
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To: montag813
GASP...DEMOCRACY!!! We can't have THAT!!!!

You're right, we can't and we don't. We have a Representative Republic. With certain things put out of reach of any government. One of those is the RKBA.

189 posted on 07/01/2008 1:02:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I was born during FDR's presidency, fired my first gun at age 6 and have had firearms ever since, and the only time I got hurt by one was when a hammer spring slipped while reassembling a high standard pistol and pinched me. If I hurt myself more often than not, say approximately 60 years of handling guns, I would have to have hurt myself 31 out of the 60 years. BS!!!

I will say that this guy is doing what all good government bureaucrats do - everything they can to empower government and render the sheep helpless. He's probably thinking ahead to the coming Obama years when gun owners will be rounded up if they don't turn their firearms over to the police, and summarily exeuted by things like the HRT if they resist.

190 posted on 07/01/2008 1:03:36 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: rbmillerjr
Your job is to enforce the current law,

Only the Constitutional ones. The Director took the same oath to "support and defend" that militay officers take. (The one with no mention of obeying orders).

191 posted on 07/01/2008 1:04:40 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: neverdem
Mueller is an embarrassment. Does anyone know whether the Bush Administration filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court with this issue and whether such brief argued there is an individual right to bears arms granted by the Second Amendment or whether the right to bear arms was only a collective right of a militia?

If the Bush Administration argued for an individual right, Bush should fire Mueller. If the Bush Administration argued only for a collective militia right, we should fire Bush.

192 posted on 07/01/2008 1:04:43 PM PDT by ComeUpHigher
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To: El Gato

Personally, I think that Ashcroft’s hard-line stance on RKBA issues and b00bies on statuary are why Jorge Arbusto replaced him.


193 posted on 07/01/2008 1:05:03 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: ZULU
A man who doesn’t respect Constitutional Rights doesn’t deserve a position of authority and respect with the United States.

Au contraire, he's perfect for it. What government bureaucrats doesn't hold the citizens whom they parasitize in contempt?

194 posted on 07/01/2008 1:05:39 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: neverdem
FBI Chief Unhappy With Supreme Court Ruling

One word, "TOUGH!"
195 posted on 07/01/2008 1:05:43 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Joe Boucher

I’m doing well, and hope the same for you and your family.

BTW, when I say that the FBI version of the incident makes sense, I say that as a guy who has climbed around inside some really old Boeing products in his day. An investigative team recently got the forward body tank of a 747 to explode with a static charge less than that of a peron shocking themselves on a doorknob.

That doesn’t mean I trust the government, just that a coverup would require so many participants that it’s a lot less reasonable a belief than believing a plane way over its recommended service life could have badly corroded wiring and transmit some current into a tank probe. It does speak to the FBI’s incompetence that they handled the PR so badly.


196 posted on 07/01/2008 1:05:56 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: G-Bear
“...they more often than not harm the people carrying them...”

Does that include FBI agents?

I shoot with two FBI agents that are very capable. They tend to deal hands-on with the very bad guys, so they have a very different perspective than the Director. (Yes the support the 2nd as a citizen's right)

197 posted on 07/01/2008 1:07:04 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: green iguana
So much for "benign neglect".

"We the People" have numerous reasons to be thankful for the peace keepers in our various law enforcement agencies. I just wish we didn't have so many reasons to b*tch about them as well.

198 posted on 07/01/2008 1:08:52 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Brilliant

“He’s posturing for a starring role in the Obama administration.”

This is an example of why you are known as Brilliant!:)


199 posted on 07/01/2008 1:09:26 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (America's Mugabe, the Obamination.will bring Mugabe Change to America!)
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To: AreaMan
Or maybe Director Mueller is just a politician who has forgotten what it's like to be a regular person trying to survive without a security detail.


Put FBI Director Mueller on suspended leave, without pay, without a security detail, for a period of 6 months. Six months should be plenty of time to give him time to rethink his comments and change his tune.

200 posted on 07/01/2008 1:11:23 PM PDT by Frohickey
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