Texas 'Self Defense' Shooting - Was It Worth Two Lives?

Blackvoices.com ^ | 2 July, 2008 | Madison J. Gray

[Gay State Conservative]

Here's my question: If people like Horn and Peairs -- who are white -- can shoot people they feel threatened by, why is it that John White, a Long Island, N.Y., man -- who is black -- gets a jail term for defending his home when he thought a mob was coming to harm his son, which also resulted in a death.

I don't know all the details of this case but did see a quick synopsis just this morning....1) The kids weren't armed...2)the back guy made *no* attempt to call the cops even though he had a good bit of advanced warning...3) the shooter showed substantial anger and contempt...anger of a type that might suggest that he was out to get whitey for 200 years of lynchings.

[eclecticEel]

Here's my question: If people like Horn and Peairs -- who are white -- can shoot people they feel threatened by, why is it that John White, a Long Island, N.Y., man -- who is black

Because Horn and Peairs live in southern states, while White lives in New York - next question?

[MortMan]

Point blank: If you actually love your column byline, you're a punk. It takes a man to preserve reason. It takes a weakling to snuff it out.

A gun is a tool - nothing more and nothing less. So is the author of this tripe.

[TerP26]

if you commit a felony, you have to prepare to get shot and killed. That is one of the risks you take along with jail time to reap their rewards.

[Charlespg]

My point was about John White

It was laws passed by people like this stupid cow
that denined him the right of self defence and got him sent to jail

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***I’m not defending the two men who robbed the neighbor’s home of about $2,000 in jewelry and cash. But was this worth their lives? ***

If you are a burglar will you put YOUR life on the line to steal $2,000 in jewelry and cash?

Is stealing another man’s livelyhood which he has honestly worked for is worth giving your life for?

[bk1000]

How about a barf alert on this racist garbage.

[sharkhawk]

Here’s a good question for congressman Billy Bob or other lawyers on FR. Could someone like White sue for a new trial? His only “crime” is something the Supreme Court has ruled unconstitutional. I would think anyone like John White or Hale DeMar from Wilmette could have their convictions overturned.

[Little Ray]

That would be WONDERFUL!
I would like to see them go free.

[Joan Kerrey]

Y A W N

[jgilbert63]

It’s like I tell my kids when they get in trouble...”What could you have done to avoid this?...Just follow the rules.” Same thing goes here:

-First, don’t flaunt our immigration laws and be here in the country illegally.

-Second, don’t break, enter, and steal...especially in Texas. That behavior is often self-critiquing down South...as these two quickly found out.

[meyer]

I'm not defending the two men who robbed the neighbor's home of about $2,000 in jewelry and cash. But was this worth their lives?

Yes, it was worth their lives. The lives of two home-invading thieves are worth far less that $2000 in my opinion.

[UltraKonservativen]

.....I wouldn’t shoot someone running away....

I would........
Right in the “Buttocks” (a la Forest Gump).

[meyer]

He ignored the dispatcher's orders...

The dispatcher does not give "orders" to the general population.

[driftless2]

Actually Joe Horn's actions will probably end up saving more lives. If certain people know they're liable to get drilled for robbing people's houses, they might be less likely to embark on a life of crime. Anyone who starts a life of crime, which includes breaking into houses, stands a much higher chance than the average law-abiding citizen of having a very short life. Either by getting shot committing a crime or by being killed in prison. I hope every kid who thinks someone is cool because they stole stuff and got away with it read this article.

[DonnerT]

Was not self defense was simple vermin eradication.

Need more of it!

[Joan Kerrey]

Texas ‘Self Defense’ Shooting - Was It Worth Two Lives?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
YUP, it was.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I wanted to agree with that regarding White. However, there are differences, some of which are meaningless to me, others more meaningful.

In the meaningless category but probably causing his conviction, the gun White shot the boy with he owned illegally. And they don’t have a castle doctrine law in New York.

In the more meaningful category, at the time Daniel was shot by White, he had not yet committed any crime. He had walked onto someone’s property, but the property was not posted “no trespassing”. He had made a ruckus in the yard, but there was no indication that ruckus itself broke any laws. He had not broken into anybody’s house.

Still, he may have threatened to harm the man’s son, and a man should have the right to defend his son — but that particular charge was one of those in dispute, and given that White’s gun was illegal for him, that may have made his side of the story less believable.

[Congressman Billybob]

I don't know the details of the White case in New York. IF, and only IF, he was convicted and failed for possessing a gun on his personal property, and no other crimes, he could seek a new trial based on the Supreme Court case.

Congressman Billybob

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[driftless2]

What I mean is every I hope kid read about what happened to the two thieves.