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Jackson's Obama comments almost went unnoticed [FNC Holds Back More Damaging Revelations]
LA Times.com ^
| matea gold
Posted on 07/10/2008 1:25:14 PM PDT by indcons
The news that the Rev. Jesse Jackson took a crude swipe at Sen. Barack Obama this week put renewed scrutiny on the relationship between the veteran civil rights activist and Democratic presidential contender.
But Jackson's vulgar criticism of Obama came close to going unreported.
Jackson made the comments to a guest before an interview on Sunday's "Fox & Friends," whispering that Obama was "talking down to black people" and that Jackson wanted to "cut his nuts off."
The comments went unnoticed in the control room, Bill Shine, Fox News' senior vice president for programming, said Thursday.
//snip//
O'Reilly told viewers that the network had decided to air only portions of what Jackson had said, saying there was "more damaging" material.
Shine declined to comment on what else Jackson said, adding that news executives were in discussions about whether to air more of the tape.
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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho; coverup; fox; foxnews; jessejackson; nuts; obama; oreilly
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Why is Bill O'Reilly so interested in protecting Jackson? I've been reading in certain blog comments that the "Reverend" called B-HO a "n----r." Unfortunately, we'll never know if these alleged rumors are true unless O'Reilly and FNC decide to stop their censorship and release the entire tape to the public.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:25:15 PM PDT
by
indcons
To: indcons
Oh, just release the whole damned tape, OK?
If it had been a conservative, that tape would have been out pronto. So what’s their problem? Ethics?
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:30:35 PM PDT
by
what_not2007
("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
To: what_not2007
“So whats their problem? Ethics?”
More likely - a lack of ethics. Release the entire tape, FNC. Such censorship is shameful.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:31:45 PM PDT
by
indcons
To: what_not2007
So whats their problem? Ethics? Probably so. CNN has no ethics. Nice to know Fox might.
That said: Release the whole tape Fox!
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:32:15 PM PDT
by
theDentist
(Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
To: indcons
OREILLY: We held back some of this conversation... we didnt feel it had any relevance to the conversation this evening. We are not out to get Jesse Jackson. We are not out to embarrass him and we are not out to make him look bad. If we were, we would have used what we had, which is more damaging than what you have heard...
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:33:51 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: theDentist
“CNN has no ethics.”
Listening to Bill Bennett’s Morning in America, he said CNN was working on being more fair...they’d hired Tony Snow and somebody else whose name I can’t remember.
Anyway, I agree. Just release the tape, Fox.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:34:13 PM PDT
by
what_not2007
("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
To: indcons
To: what_not2007
Either they are milking this to get more interest. Or they want some leverage against the shake-down artist if he ever targets Fox.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:37:33 PM PDT
by
for-q-clinton
(If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
To: Pacothecat
What ever happend to the FOX NEWS Slogan -
We report You decide?
I guess those were just marketing words.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:37:48 PM PDT
by
JBR34
To: indcons
BOR’s not protecting Jackson, he’s letting him know he’s got some blackmail material. If he wanted to protect him, he wouldn’t say on international TV that he’s sitting on “more damaging” video.
BOR would burn that tape in a second if Jackson agreed in return to do six Factor shows a year for the next three years.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:39:34 PM PDT
by
james500
To: indcons
The cat is out of the bag. If they released any part of the tape, they need to release it all. Especially after saying it’s worse than what we’ve heard so far! Maybe it’s about time people learned what “Reverend” Jackson is all about!
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:39:59 PM PDT
by
visualops
(artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
To: for-q-clinton
“Either they are milking this to get more interest. Or they want some leverage against the shake-down artist if he ever targets Fox”
Oh, why should they need leverage against Jessie Jackson?
It’s time somebody put that shyster in his place.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:41:21 PM PDT
by
what_not2007
("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
To: indcons
My second question is why is BOR in charge of this tape?
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:41:43 PM PDT
by
visualops
(artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
To: visualops
I’m wondering also if Jackson admitted that
if the black community took Cosby & Obama’s words to heart,
his gravy train would come to a screeching halt.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:42:32 PM PDT
by
MrB
(You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
To: what_not2007
It's not going to hurt the reverend any more than the current snippet or the love child revelations.
Geez, everyone knows he’za poverty pimp.
To: indcons
I just felt there had to be more to what Jesse Jackson was apologizing for than what Fox played last night. I do not feel what Fox aired was bad enough to warrant a public apology. In fact, I felt it was not that bad what Jesse said. Ho-hum is what I thought after hearing the 'hot mike' remarks.
But if there are more remarks that are more damaging that what we already know he said, then I might understand the apology? Jesse might be trying to nip it in the bud.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:45:06 PM PDT
by
rawhide
To: indcons; All

"Let's go to the VIDEO TAPE!!"
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:45:16 PM PDT
by
musicman
To: indcons
I don't understand the intensity here. Why does this matter?
So Jesse Jackson was talking bad about Obama; who cares? That's only hurting Jesse Jackson, and won't do anything to help us defeat the Messiah.
To: james500
BORs not protecting Jackson, hes letting him know hes got some blackmail material. BOR would only be in a position to blackmail if he had exclusive possession of that tape. But he doesn't. The tape was shown on every show on FNC last night, not just BOR's. Showing the tape in its entirety will be the decision of the FNC execs.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:45:49 PM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: visualops
Bill O’Reilly pretends to be in charge of everything, he also has to constantly demonstrate his “fairness” with bizarre and flippant defenses of liberals. My guess is Jackson said some inappropriate things about a Fox newsbabe. It was strange indeed to say they have worse stuf but aren’t using it to prove how fair they are.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:47:17 PM PDT
by
Williams
To: kristinn
Bill O’Reilly AKA Mr. Loofah lies about FR but refuses to expose the truth about Jesse Jackson - even when it is on tape.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:47:46 PM PDT
by
indcons
To: servantboy777
Jackson is an imposter on so many levels.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:48:06 PM PDT
by
what_not2007
("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
Comment #23 Removed by Moderator
To: indcons
Why do we need our media to censor news.
And the left accuses the right of propaganda.
To: GunRunner
This might damage the “Messiah’s” standing with blacks - they’ve been trending close to 100% for him and are the biggest factor in favor of Obama’s attempt to capture a couple of Southern states.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:50:16 PM PDT
by
indcons
To: musicman
Ugh. Listening to Warner Wolf this morning. Defending Obama on his suggestion that we all teach our children to speak Spanish.
Wolf has been all for her heiney till now. So once a dem always a dem despite his insisting he’s not political.
Blech.
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posted on
07/10/2008 1:52:37 PM PDT
by
Carley
To: indcons
Rush was all over this today on his show. I thought I would die laughing...
To: indcons
This whole thing smells like an engineered event
- Clintons have always said that Obama may be seen by white voters just another Jesse Jackson
- who better to dis Obama then, than Jackson?
- Jackson didn’t even call FNC, he immediately called CNN, before this was released, to “apologize”, ensuring a media blitz
- Is it a surprise that Jackson’s son is Obama’s campaign manager?
- Imagine this all happening at a FOX News studio, knowing that FOX will run with it big time (vs, say MSNBC).
- Not a big deal for Jackson to sacrifice himself for Obama. He is not running for public office again anyway, and neither will lose a single black vote over the issue anyway
- Meanwhile Obama gets to position himself as a centrist, esp. for white voters
- Obama will politely “forgive” Jackson, thus allowing the MSM to crown him as a “uniter.”
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:00:44 PM PDT
by
PGR88
To: indcons
I’ll stand my earlier post that Jackson probably called Obama a “house-n%%%r”
I’m not sure why Fox wouldn’t release the tape unless they fear a race war over the use of that word or BOR begged them so that he can get Jackson back on his show as a guest.
In any case, it’s only a matter of time before some employees grabs a copy and throws it up on youtube.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:02:42 PM PDT
by
wilco200
(Typical White Person)
To: indcons
This is a well crafted scam to make voters think Obeyme isn't such a bad guy along with the Rev. Wright distancing.
Ain't buying it.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:02:47 PM PDT
by
Apercu
("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
To: indcons
Fox News: “We report, (well, mostly) You decide”.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:07:01 PM PDT
by
hope
To: indcons
"Duh, we're don't know if this is newsworthy or not and if we'll be called racist"
Geezzzz
To: TexasCajun
Linked at Drudge now. It will get some play.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:12:04 PM PDT
by
Jet Jaguar
(Who would the terrorists vote for?)
To: Williams
Bill OReilly pretends to be in charge of everything, he also has to constantly demonstrate his fairness with bizarre and flippant defenses of liberals.
And having on that Code Pink babe twice in one week. I can't watch anymore...it's an Obama swoon fest. And for a real and rare treat tonight--Dick Morris will be on! (another know-it-all)
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:12:49 PM PDT
by
Miss Didi
("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
To: for-q-clinton
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:13:10 PM PDT
by
Unlikely Hero
("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
To: what_not2007
The guy makes me cringe every time I hear him speak. Same goes with Sharpton and Boxer. yuck
To: george76
We held back some of this conversation... we didnt feel it had any relevance to the conversation this evening. We are not out to get Jesse Jackson. We are not out to embarrass him and we are not out to make him look bad. If we were, we would have used what we had, which is more damaging than what you have heard...
O'Reilly has been in the last 6 or 7 years mostly about making sure that he gets the special guests from the left and from the right. The reason for that is to get higher ratings. Once he surpassed Larry King, he needed to do something to keep rising in the ratings. If he can only get guests from the right, then both FOX and O'Reilly would not get as many viewers from the left as they would like in order to get the higher ratings they seek.
If O'Reilly were to report the complete truth on both Obama and Jackson, then they could expect to kiss those two goodbye as special guests. O'Reilly cannot afford to be confrontational with any guests who he would like to get back for future shows. To get higher ratings which include whatever viewers they can get from the left, O'Reilly and Fox are sacrificing confrontation; getting at the truth is confrontational to democrats and that's why there are many liberal senators and congresspeople who will not agree to appear on FOX. And, O'Reilly and FOX know especially well that with the campaign season in full swing, they can't demean, confront, or challenge the guests that they need from the democrats.
O'Reilly and FOX have lately been mostly about kissing the democrats' butts than confronting those lefties about the truth. Ratings are more important to O'Reilly than reporting the truth. O'Reilly is all about ratings, as witnessed by his bragging on a monthly basis when the ratings are reported. O'Reilly is not about getting to the bottom of the story or getting at the truth. and unfortunately, neither is FOX.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:15:48 PM PDT
by
adorno
To: adorno
O'Reilly and FOX have lately been mostly about kissing the democrats' butts than confronting those lefties about the truth. Ratings are more important to O'Reilly than reporting the truth.
Lately I can't get past the Talking Points. Last night the top three stories were to be about Barry Hussein...I turned him off. Again.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:19:27 PM PDT
by
Miss Didi
("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
To: PGR88
IMHO, you nailed it.
BUMP!
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:20:21 PM PDT
by
upchuck
(As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
To: indcons
amazing how everything — that’s e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g — somehow is reported as “helping” Obama.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:32:13 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(please consider the environment when purchasing the New York Times)
To: indcons
Why is Bill O'Reilly so interested in protecting Jackson?
He's not.
He's teasing for a larger audience -- down the road. He'll milk this for all it's worth.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:32:52 PM PDT
by
Beckwith
('Typical White Person')
To: the invisib1e hand
amazing how everything thats e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g somehow is reported as helping Obama.
Did any of the Drive-Bys (other than Fox) report on Barry wanting our kids to learn Spanish. If that was reported, or made into an ad, it would be game over.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:35:25 PM PDT
by
Miss Didi
("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
To: Beckwith
I think it was a set up and Fox News took the bait.
It was all done to make Obama look less black and more moderate , too try and broaden his appeal among whites.
To: indcons
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:41:30 PM PDT
by
Miss Didi
("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
To: indcons
Why is Bill O'Reilly so interested in protecting Jackson?For the same reason he had Medea Benjamin on twice within a week. For the same eason he kisses Al Sharptongue's butt. For the same reason h likes that racist Marc Lamont Hill. For the same reason he continues to waste air time on Geraldo even after Gearaldo threatened to "piss" on Michelle Malkin's head. (It chased Michelle away, but Geraldo is still a regular.)
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:51:27 PM PDT
by
TBP
To: servantboy777
Geez, everyone knows heza poverty pimp.A race baiting poverty pimp, to use the precise phrase. Which was too kind.
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:53:44 PM PDT
by
TBP
To: Miss Didi
Official Obama Criticizer, Bo SnerdleyI'd love to hearhim sit in on one of Rush's days off. That would be FUN!
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posted on
07/10/2008 2:57:53 PM PDT
by
TBP
To: TBP
I must say, Jesse dropped a huge bomb after his comment. Check out the look on his face - whew, too much chili for lunch, Jesse !!
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posted on
07/10/2008 3:21:24 PM PDT
by
WillT
To: indcons
".."We cautiously and patiently went forward with the story," he said, adding that producers reached out to Jackson and Obama to let them know about the material..."
Why did they give Jackson a special break?
To: MrB
That, as they say, would be verrrry interesting!
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posted on
07/10/2008 3:40:13 PM PDT
by
visualops
(artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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