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Jackson's Obama comments almost went unnoticed [FNC Holds Back More Damaging Revelations]
LA Times.com ^ | matea gold

Posted on 07/10/2008 1:25:14 PM PDT by indcons

The news that the Rev. Jesse Jackson took a crude swipe at Sen. Barack Obama this week put renewed scrutiny on the relationship between the veteran civil rights activist and Democratic presidential contender.

But Jackson's vulgar criticism of Obama came close to going unreported.

Jackson made the comments to a guest before an interview on Sunday's "Fox & Friends," whispering that Obama was "talking down to black people" and that Jackson wanted to "cut his nuts off."

The comments went unnoticed in the control room, Bill Shine, Fox News' senior vice president for programming, said Thursday.

//snip//

O'Reilly told viewers that the network had decided to air only portions of what Jackson had said, saying there was "more damaging" material.

Shine declined to comment on what else Jackson said, adding that news executives were in discussions about whether to air more of the tape.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho; coverup; fox; foxnews; jessejackson; nuts; obama; oreilly
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Why is Bill O'Reilly so interested in protecting Jackson? I've been reading in certain blog comments that the "Reverend" called B-HO a "n----r." Unfortunately, we'll never know if these alleged rumors are true unless O'Reilly and FNC decide to stop their censorship and release the entire tape to the public.
1 posted on 07/10/2008 1:25:15 PM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons

Oh, just release the whole damned tape, OK?

If it had been a conservative, that tape would have been out pronto. So what’s their problem? Ethics?


2 posted on 07/10/2008 1:30:35 PM PDT by what_not2007 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
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To: what_not2007

“So what’s their problem? Ethics?”

More likely - a lack of ethics. Release the entire tape, FNC. Such censorship is shameful.


3 posted on 07/10/2008 1:31:45 PM PDT by indcons
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To: what_not2007
So what’s their problem? Ethics?

Probably so. CNN has no ethics. Nice to know Fox might.

That said: Release the whole tape Fox!

4 posted on 07/10/2008 1:32:15 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: indcons

O’REILLY: ‘We held back some of this conversation... we didn’t feel it had any relevance to the conversation this evening. We are not out to get Jesse Jackson. We are not out to embarrass him and we are not out to make him look bad. If we were, we would have used what we had, which is more damaging than what you have heard’...


5 posted on 07/10/2008 1:33:51 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: theDentist

“CNN has no ethics.”

Listening to Bill Bennett’s Morning in America, he said CNN was working on being more fair...they’d hired Tony Snow and somebody else whose name I can’t remember.

Anyway, I agree. Just release the tape, Fox.


6 posted on 07/10/2008 1:34:13 PM PDT by what_not2007 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
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To: indcons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdO1qfBqwx8

Why Jesse Jackson wants to cut obama’s nuts off


7 posted on 07/10/2008 1:34:55 PM PDT by Pacothecat
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To: what_not2007

Either they are milking this to get more interest. Or they want some leverage against the shake-down artist if he ever targets Fox.


8 posted on 07/10/2008 1:37:33 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Pacothecat

What ever happend to the FOX NEWS Slogan -

We report You decide?

I guess those were just marketing words.


9 posted on 07/10/2008 1:37:48 PM PDT by JBR34
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To: indcons

BOR’s not protecting Jackson, he’s letting him know he’s got some blackmail material. If he wanted to protect him, he wouldn’t say on international TV that he’s sitting on “more damaging” video.

BOR would burn that tape in a second if Jackson agreed in return to do six Factor shows a year for the next three years.


10 posted on 07/10/2008 1:39:34 PM PDT by james500
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To: indcons

The cat is out of the bag. If they released any part of the tape, they need to release it all. Especially after saying it’s worse than what we’ve heard so far! Maybe it’s about time people learned what “Reverend” Jackson is all about!


11 posted on 07/10/2008 1:39:59 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: for-q-clinton

“Either they are milking this to get more interest. Or they want some leverage against the shake-down artist if he ever targets Fox”

Oh, why should they need leverage against Jessie Jackson?

It’s time somebody put that shyster in his place.


12 posted on 07/10/2008 1:41:21 PM PDT by what_not2007 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
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To: indcons

My second question is why is BOR in charge of this tape?


13 posted on 07/10/2008 1:41:43 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: visualops

I’m wondering also if Jackson admitted that

if the black community took Cosby & Obama’s words to heart,

his gravy train would come to a screeching halt.


14 posted on 07/10/2008 1:42:32 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: what_not2007
It's not going to hurt the reverend any more than the current snippet or the love child revelations.

Geez, everyone knows he’za poverty pimp.

15 posted on 07/10/2008 1:43:54 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: indcons
I just felt there had to be more to what Jesse Jackson was apologizing for than what Fox played last night. I do not feel what Fox aired was bad enough to warrant a public apology. In fact, I felt it was not that bad what Jesse said. Ho-hum is what I thought after hearing the 'hot mike' remarks.

But if there are more remarks that are more damaging that what we already know he said, then I might understand the apology? Jesse might be trying to nip it in the bud.

16 posted on 07/10/2008 1:45:06 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: indcons; All
Warner Wolf "Let's Go to the Video Tape!!"

"Let's go to the VIDEO TAPE!!"

17 posted on 07/10/2008 1:45:16 PM PDT by musicman
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To: indcons
I don't understand the intensity here. Why does this matter?

So Jesse Jackson was talking bad about Obama; who cares? That's only hurting Jesse Jackson, and won't do anything to help us defeat the Messiah.

18 posted on 07/10/2008 1:45:32 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: james500
BOR’s not protecting Jackson, he’s letting him know he’s got some blackmail material.

BOR would only be in a position to blackmail if he had exclusive possession of that tape. But he doesn't. The tape was shown on every show on FNC last night, not just BOR's. Showing the tape in its entirety will be the decision of the FNC execs.

19 posted on 07/10/2008 1:45:49 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: visualops

Bill O’Reilly pretends to be in charge of everything, he also has to constantly demonstrate his “fairness” with bizarre and flippant defenses of liberals. My guess is Jackson said some inappropriate things about a Fox newsbabe. It was strange indeed to say they have worse stuf but aren’t using it to prove how fair they are.


20 posted on 07/10/2008 1:47:17 PM PDT by Williams
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To: kristinn

Bill O’Reilly AKA Mr. Loofah lies about FR but refuses to expose the truth about Jesse Jackson - even when it is on tape.


21 posted on 07/10/2008 1:47:46 PM PDT by indcons
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To: servantboy777

Jackson is an imposter on so many levels.


22 posted on 07/10/2008 1:48:06 PM PDT by what_not2007 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
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To: indcons

Why do we need our media to censor news.

And the left accuses the right of propaganda.


24 posted on 07/10/2008 1:49:00 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: GunRunner

This might damage the “Messiah’s” standing with blacks - they’ve been trending close to 100% for him and are the biggest factor in favor of Obama’s attempt to capture a couple of Southern states.


25 posted on 07/10/2008 1:50:16 PM PDT by indcons
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To: musicman

Ugh. Listening to Warner Wolf this morning. Defending Obama on his suggestion that we all teach our children to speak Spanish.

Wolf has been all for her heiney till now. So once a dem always a dem despite his insisting he’s not political.

Blech.


26 posted on 07/10/2008 1:52:37 PM PDT by Carley
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To: indcons

Rush was all over this today on his show. I thought I would die laughing...


27 posted on 07/10/2008 1:53:03 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: indcons

This whole thing smells like an engineered event

- Clintons have always said that Obama may be seen by white voters just another Jesse Jackson
- who better to dis Obama then, than Jackson?
- Jackson didn’t even call FNC, he immediately called CNN, before this was released, to “apologize”, ensuring a media blitz
- Is it a surprise that Jackson’s son is Obama’s campaign manager?
- Imagine this all happening at a FOX News studio, knowing that FOX will run with it big time (vs, say MSNBC).
- Not a big deal for Jackson to sacrifice himself for Obama. He is not running for public office again anyway, and neither will lose a single black vote over the issue anyway
- Meanwhile Obama gets to position himself as a centrist, esp. for white voters
- Obama will politely “forgive” Jackson, thus allowing the MSM to crown him as a “uniter.”


28 posted on 07/10/2008 2:00:44 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: indcons

I’ll stand my earlier post that Jackson probably called Obama a “house-n%%%r”

I’m not sure why Fox wouldn’t release the tape unless they fear a race war over the use of that word or BOR begged them so that he can get Jackson back on his show as a guest.

In any case, it’s only a matter of time before some employees grabs a copy and throws it up on youtube.


29 posted on 07/10/2008 2:02:42 PM PDT by wilco200 (Typical White Person)
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To: indcons
This is a well crafted scam to make voters think Obeyme isn't such a bad guy along with the Rev. Wright distancing.
Ain't buying it.
30 posted on 07/10/2008 2:02:47 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: indcons

Fox News: “We report, (well, mostly) You decide”.


31 posted on 07/10/2008 2:07:01 PM PDT by hope
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To: indcons
"Duh, we're don't know if this is newsworthy or not and if we'll be called racist"

Geezzzz

32 posted on 07/10/2008 2:09:50 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

Linked at Drudge now. It will get some play.


33 posted on 07/10/2008 2:12:04 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Williams
Bill O’Reilly pretends to be in charge of everything, he also has to constantly demonstrate his “fairness” with bizarre and flippant defenses of liberals.

And having on that Code Pink babe twice in one week. I can't watch anymore...it's an Obama swoon fest. And for a real and rare treat tonight--Dick Morris will be on! (another know-it-all)
34 posted on 07/10/2008 2:12:49 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: for-q-clinton

I’m going for Option B.


35 posted on 07/10/2008 2:13:10 PM PDT by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: what_not2007
The guy makes me cringe every time I hear him speak. Same goes with Sharpton and Boxer. yuck
36 posted on 07/10/2008 2:13:46 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: george76
‘We held back some of this conversation... we didn’t feel it had any relevance to the conversation this evening. We are not out to get Jesse Jackson. We are not out to embarrass him and we are not out to make him look bad. If we were, we would have used what we had, which is more damaging than what you have heard’...

O'Reilly has been in the last 6 or 7 years mostly about making sure that he gets the special guests from the left and from the right. The reason for that is to get higher ratings. Once he surpassed Larry King, he needed to do something to keep rising in the ratings. If he can only get guests from the right, then both FOX and O'Reilly would not get as many viewers from the left as they would like in order to get the higher ratings they seek.

If O'Reilly were to report the complete truth on both Obama and Jackson, then they could expect to kiss those two goodbye as special guests. O'Reilly cannot afford to be confrontational with any guests who he would like to get back for future shows. To get higher ratings which include whatever viewers they can get from the left, O'Reilly and Fox are sacrificing confrontation; getting at the truth is confrontational to democrats and that's why there are many liberal senators and congresspeople who will not agree to appear on FOX. And, O'Reilly and FOX know especially well that with the campaign season in full swing, they can't demean, confront, or challenge the guests that they need from the democrats.

O'Reilly and FOX have lately been mostly about kissing the democrats' butts than confronting those lefties about the truth. Ratings are more important to O'Reilly than reporting the truth. O'Reilly is all about ratings, as witnessed by his bragging on a monthly basis when the ratings are reported. O'Reilly is not about getting to the bottom of the story or getting at the truth. and unfortunately, neither is FOX.
37 posted on 07/10/2008 2:15:48 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno
O'Reilly and FOX have lately been mostly about kissing the democrats' butts than confronting those lefties about the truth. Ratings are more important to O'Reilly than reporting the truth.

Lately I can't get past the Talking Points. Last night the top three stories were to be about Barry Hussein...I turned him off. Again.
38 posted on 07/10/2008 2:19:27 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: PGR88

IMHO, you nailed it.

BUMP!


39 posted on 07/10/2008 2:20:21 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: indcons

amazing how everything — that’s e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g — somehow is reported as “helping” Obama.


40 posted on 07/10/2008 2:32:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (please consider the environment when purchasing the New York Times)
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Why is Bill O'Reilly so interested in protecting Jackson?

He's not.

He's teasing for a larger audience -- down the road. He'll milk this for all it's worth.
41 posted on 07/10/2008 2:32:52 PM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: the invisib1e hand
amazing how everything — that’s e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g — somehow is reported as “helping” Obama.

Did any of the Drive-Bys (other than Fox) report on Barry wanting our kids to learn Spanish. If that was reported, or made into an ad, it would be game over.
42 posted on 07/10/2008 2:35:25 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Beckwith

I think it was a set up and Fox News took the bait.
It was all done to make Obama look less black and more moderate , too try and broaden his appeal among whites.


43 posted on 07/10/2008 2:36:44 PM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: indcons


Castrati Thursday: Rev. Jackson Threatens to Castrate Obama


Official Obama Criticizer, Bo Snerdley

Take on the Civil Rights Bully

PARODY AUDIO: The Justice Brothers React | Shanklin
44 posted on 07/10/2008 2:41:30 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: indcons
Why is Bill O'Reilly so interested in protecting Jackson?

For the same reason he had Medea Benjamin on twice within a week. For the same eason he kisses Al Sharptongue's butt. For the same reason h likes that racist Marc Lamont Hill. For the same reason he continues to waste air time on Geraldo even after Gearaldo threatened to "piss" on Michelle Malkin's head. (It chased Michelle away, but Geraldo is still a regular.)

45 posted on 07/10/2008 2:51:27 PM PDT by TBP
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To: servantboy777
Geez, everyone knows he’za poverty pimp.

A race baiting poverty pimp, to use the precise phrase. Which was too kind.

46 posted on 07/10/2008 2:53:44 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Miss Didi
Official Obama Criticizer, Bo Snerdley

I'd love to hearhim sit in on one of Rush's days off. That would be FUN!

47 posted on 07/10/2008 2:57:53 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

I must say, Jesse dropped a huge bomb after his comment. Check out the look on his face - whew, too much chili for lunch, Jesse !!


48 posted on 07/10/2008 3:21:24 PM PDT by WillT
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To: indcons
".."We cautiously and patiently went forward with the story," he said, adding that producers reached out to Jackson and Obama to let them know about the material..."

Why did they give Jackson a special break?

49 posted on 07/10/2008 3:37:28 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: MrB

That, as they say, would be verrrry interesting!


50 posted on 07/10/2008 3:40:13 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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