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The Shame of Postville, Iowa (Barf alert)
NY Times ^ | July 13, 2008 | None given-Editorial Board

Posted on 07/13/2008 8:10:03 AM PDT by DemonDeac

"Anyone who has doubts that this country is abusing and terrorizing undocumented immigrant workers should read an essay by Erik Camayd-Freixas, a professor and Spanish-language court interpreter who witnessed the aftermath of a huge immigration workplace raid at a meatpacking plant in Iowa."

"The essay chillingly describes what Dr. Camayd-Freixas saw and heard as he translated for some of the nearly 400 undocumented workers who were seized by federal agents at the Agriprocessors kosher plant in Postville in May.

Under the old way of doing things, the workers, nearly all Guatemalans, would have been simply and swiftly deported. But in a twist of Dickensian cruelty, more than 260 were charged as serious criminals for using false Social Security numbers or residency papers, and most were sentenced to five months in prison."

"Dr. Camayd-Freixas’s essay describes “the saddest procession I have ever witnessed, which the public would never see” — because cameras were forbidden.

“Driven single-file in groups of 10, shackled at the wrists, waist and ankles, chains dragging as they shuffled through, the slaughterhouse workers were brought in for arraignment, sat and listened through headsets to the interpreted initial appearance, before marching out again to be bused to different county jails, only to make room for the next row of 10.”"

"No one is denying that the workers were on the wrong side of the law. But there is a profound difference between stealing people’s identities to rob them of money and property, and using false papers to merely get a job. It is a distinction that the Bush administration, goaded by immigration extremists, has willfully ignored."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; crymeariver; deport; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration
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He makes us sound like the Gestapo. Abuse and terrorizing. Dickension cruelty. Etc, etc, etc
1 posted on 07/13/2008 8:10:03 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac

I don’t get it.

How is it cruel to try and convict people who are breaking the law?


2 posted on 07/13/2008 8:14:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: DemonDeac
But there is a profound difference between stealing people’s identities to rob them of money and property, and using false papers to merely get a job.

They're law-abiding Illegal Aliens, y'see.

3 posted on 07/13/2008 8:22:54 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: DemonDeac
But there is a profound difference between stealing people’s identities to rob them of money and property, and using false papers to merely get a job

Wonder if these guys would like having their SS #'s stolen so the poor Guatemalans could work.

And it really is cute how the editors managed to blame the whole thing on the Bush administration.

4 posted on 07/13/2008 8:23:57 AM PDT by groanup (Most of my cliche's aren't original.)
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To: DemonDeac

This whiney, leftist drivel is enough to make you throw up. Sure, let’s just escort them courteously to the border and bid a fond farewell. Then we can watch as they walk back over the border the following evening. Perhaps 5 months in the slam will make these people think twice about that return visit. Nor has this tearjerking hack bothered to mention how much these poor mistreated babies have cost taxpayers in free medical care, welfare, Social Security and on and on. Never mind the costs involved in tracking them down, running them through the legal system, providing them with attorneys and transporting them back to Mexico. There is no more dependable purveyor of hypocrisy and shamelessness than the NY Times.


5 posted on 07/13/2008 8:24:47 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: DemonDeac

G. Carlin on hyphenation: “Pick a %@#$%ing name, Lady.” lol


6 posted on 07/13/2008 8:24:59 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: BenLurkin
IF the paper feels that the sentence for the offense is unjust, then they have every right to propose a change, but the penalties have nothing to do with George Bush or the FBI, or law enforcement. Next I suppose handcuffing suspects will be considered ‘torture’, unless said suspects are Republicans.
This ‘interpreter’ has crossed a line alright, from observer to advocate and should be summarily fired.
7 posted on 07/13/2008 8:25:24 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: DemonDeac

Jesus,Mary and Joseph.....get them out.Get them *all* out.Don’t kill them.Don’t torture them.But *do* get them out!


8 posted on 07/13/2008 8:25:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: DemonDeac
But there is a profound difference between stealing people’s identities to rob them of money and property, and using false papers to merely get a job.

But perhaps not as profound as the difference between education and indoctrination.

This event has really kicked the rock from atop the illegal problem here in Iowa, and lots of the bugs are unhappy with the sunlight... including Herr Doktor Professor.

Mr. niteowl77

9 posted on 07/13/2008 8:27:33 AM PDT by niteowl77 (If you push too hard, you won't believe what happens next.)
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To: groanup

Bingo, the theft of citizen identities was so blatant it could no longer be ignored. Say, what happens if an American in Guatemala or Mexico (or any derivation thereof)assumes anothers identity in order to work, anyone know?


10 posted on 07/13/2008 8:28:07 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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ping


11 posted on 07/13/2008 8:29:00 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: martin_fierro

The supply of SSN by health care providers has become a new threat. Workers record the numbers and then check back with the victim and family to see if the victim has deceased and the number can be safely used. So if you get a call about the health and welfare of a family member from a health care provider..they aren’t worried about their welfare. They are wondering if the number is safe to use.


12 posted on 07/13/2008 8:29:59 AM PDT by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: DemonDeac
You forgot the


13 posted on 07/13/2008 8:30:33 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: DemonDeac

Well, cry me a river. Does this editor think about what other countries in the world do with illegals?


14 posted on 07/13/2008 8:31:39 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Turns out the NY Times thought deportation was just ducky all along!

They move the goalposts so often they should attach wheels to them.


15 posted on 07/13/2008 8:40:45 AM PDT by relictele
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To: groanup

“Wonder if these guys would like having their SS #’s stolen so the poor Guatemalans could work.”
I’m sure there’s a way to make that happen!


16 posted on 07/13/2008 8:45:54 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: DemonDeac

>But in a twist of Dickensian cruelty, more than 260 were charged as serious criminals for using false Social Security numbers or residency papers, and most were sentenced to five months in prison.”<

I’m sorry, but how is that cruel?

If I used a false SS# I would fully expect consequences of that nature.


17 posted on 07/13/2008 9:07:13 AM PDT by Califreak (What exactly is a "Do Wacka Do" anyway?)
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To: BenLurkin

Especially people who stole someones identity by using their SS#. That should get about 25 years in prison.


18 posted on 07/13/2008 9:12:10 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: DemonDeac

(Under the old way of doing things, the workers, nearly all Guatemalans, would have been simply and swiftly deported. But in a twist of Dickensian cruelty, more than 260 were charged as serious criminals for using false Social Security numbers or residency papers, and most were sentenced to five months in prison.” )

Two points.
1. The old way sounds good. The sooner that ILLEGAL aliens are removed from the Country the better it is for everyone including LEGAL aliens.
2.What is cruel about chatrging serious criminals with serious charges? Using false and stolen social security numbers is a SERIOUS crime.


19 posted on 07/13/2008 9:22:57 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: DemonDeac
But in a twist of Dickensian cruelty, more than 260 were charged as serious criminals for using false Social Security numbers or residency papers,

Only the American-hating NY Times editorial board would consider it cruel that people who falsify social security numbers are prosecuted as criminals.

20 posted on 07/13/2008 9:23:01 AM PDT by A message
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