Posted on 07/15/2008 5:29:28 AM PDT by fatrat
i just watched the 2 new girly men on F&F agree that new drilling for oil would have no effect on the price of gasoline at the pump. Somebody needs to tell these two metrosexuals to keep their uninformed opinions to themselves.
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Spread the word - Contact congress today July 15th
Let them know how you feel about drilling
Drill or get off the hill
Pelosi email if anyone is interested sf.nancy@mail.house.gov
They need to invite Hillary Clinton to come on and explain the futures markets to them.
It could easily have “no effect” on the world price of oil, while at the same time substantially reducing the US price of oil. If we use our own oil instead of foreign oil, then that will improve the balance of trade and increase the value of the dollar, which will in turn reduce the price of oil to US buyers.
Not only that, but if we drill at ANWR or offshore, then the oil companies will have to pay a royalty to the US government, which will increase government revenue without increasing taxes.
It’s a win-win, and the guys who are trying to say otherwise simply don’t understand economics.
Get everyone to sign the American Sollutions, "Drill Here, Drill Now" petition. 
Join the 1,333,011 people who have signed the petition.
Link just goes to foxnews.com. Is there a more direct link?
Someone needs to start asking the playback recorders, “if this is so, then why is gas free in Saudi Arabia and less than 50cents a gallon in many other major oil producing countries?”
The price of diesel is more important than that of gasoline. The price of diesel always goes up with supply shocks or uncertainties. Domestic supply reduces both.
They heavily subsidize it.
Tuned out of Fox News about a year ago. Once in a while I may tune in for a few minutes. After a few minutes I see why I tuned out. To call Fox News conservative is a joke. Maybe their conservative compared to MSNBC and CNN. However, they still lean left of center.
You’re on the wrong board.
DU and KOS would be very receptive to your oil nationalization/massive government subsidy program.
While FreeAtlanta did not include the socialized subsidy in his or her point, the parallel point that was made is valid. OPEC countries have a lot of oil supply, and therefore they do have an advantage in keeping their own fuel costs down.
The fact that they are state-owned monopolies producing the oil was beside FreeAtlanta’s point, I think.
FreeAtlanta, feel free to correct me if I have misstated something.
Vote with your remote.
Tune out FOX and unsubscribe, that’s what I did when FOX decided to backstab Duncan Hunter during the primaries and I don’t miss Rupert Murdoch’s morning blather one damn bit.
(Uh, switched to Diesel and drove the price of Diesel up...)
Venezuela heavily subsidizes the price of gas. They are in debt trillions of dollars to the World Bank for this skeem.
The point isn’t whether it will lower prices right away. It doesn’t take a genius or economic girly men to figure that out. Ask these people where we might be had clinton not vetoed the anwar bill. It’s a start and that’s all. We still have to get past the congressional ban on OSDrilling.
Is it really all that heavily subsidized, or is it just less transportation, no import/export terriffs, huge local supply? I am sure the free Saudi gas is subsidized at least some, but I am also pretty sure that the fuel is a lot cheaper at the source. We need to make the US our source.
We will bypass terriffs, stop sending our treasure overseas, create local jobs, probably do a better job with environmental care, and most importantly reduce prices at the pump!
They also give oil to Cuba and third world socialist/communist countries and support terrorism. I don't think supplying cheaper gas to their people gets them into as much debt as their support for FARC, Hamas, Castro, etc. That said, I am not promoting Government subsidies. I am promoting that products are usually cheaper at the source. We need to recreate ourselves at our own source.
“Bunch of lemmings. This silly mantra of more supply won’t reduce costs goes against every thread of logic and makes these goats look silly.”
Not that those babbling that drilling won’t reduce the price of gasoline have thought it through this far, but the new drilling and any resulting new supply will have to increase faster than new demand for crude. We have to improve the supply demand picture, knowing that demand will also increase along with supply.
as i understand it, the congressional ban on drilling will expire at the end of September this year. i think that they will find it impossible to extend it but i hope they try because that should lead to lots of incumbents being thrown out by the voters. i think this was a part ot W’s strategy for coming out strong yesterday and lifting his ban.
Pelosi...
Well, I do want legistlation that would block the greens from sueing once the permit is granted. And, I would like there to be only 1 permit that is guaranteed to be approved/denied within 3 to 6 months. Also, if one national standard gasoline formula instead of the dozens of regional/seasonal formulas.
Contact congress today July 15th
Lets flood them with calls and emails
Pelosi email AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
don’t see a problem there. If i were a young man, i would consider joining for that exact purpose.
Just got an email from Pelosi
Unless I am in her district all email must be sent to
Lets flood this witch!!
“I am sure the free Saudi gas is subsidized at least some, but I am also pretty sure that the fuel is a lot cheaper at the source.”
The cost of producing Saudi oil is around $.50 to $2.00 per barrel. So, if the cost of crude is 70% of the cost of gasoline (in the news lately), then their gasoline is costing them very little. I think several of the Middle Eastern oil producers have to send their crude out of country to be refined, but their gas could still sell for $.50 per gallon or less without much subsidy. (Unless the cost is being inflated by all sorts of useless middle men taking their cut.)
He said it was for pure selfish reasons. I don’t agree.
So no opinion other than your own should be allowed? I think you are fast approaching the liberal mindset with that kind of thinking.

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Venezuela paid off its World Bank debt. It owes the WB nothing. Total debt is in the trillions of bolivars, not dollars. I think that’s about US$7.98.
I tuned out prior to that because they turned in the Natalie Holloway, Britney, Paris, famous/infamous/exploited/victim white girl news channel.
That is billions of dollars, $26.5 billion to be close. http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/1640 I don’t put much stock in anything posted by Venezuelanalysis but I do know they are within a couple of billion.
They heavily subsidize it.
When you produce more than you consume theres no need to subsidize.
Some enterprising soul should start producing “Merry Christmas” cards “from the dims”. Like: “Sorry My Child. No Christmas Presents This Year. Not Even A Lump of Coal In Your Stocking. The Only Thing Santa Could Afford This Year Was This Card With A Picture Of The Speaker Of The House, Nancy Pelosi. Merry Christmas”...
Digging for diamonds wont lower the price of diamonds so - despite the fact that you have diamonds on your property - you shouldnt dig them out. Instead, when diamonds are at an all time high, buy your diamonds from a foreign source. Export as much money as humanly possible so that foreign entities can buy up U.S. landmarks like the Chrysler building (and the mortgage on your house by bailing out banks).
While you are busy exporting trillions of dollars to buy diamonds, work hard to make diamonds obsolete through new technology. That way, all of the potential trillions you have in diamonds of your own eventually becomes worthless as you let them rot in the ground.
BRILLIANT!
(I’ll just keep repeating this analogy until it someone other than the addressee reads it and catches on. ;-))
Is it really all that heavily subsidized, or is it just less transportation, no import/export terriffs, huge local supply?
They simply produce more than they consume. Giving them the luxury of setting a domestic price. I remember when we had that luxury.
opinions are great so long as they are not presented as news. Fox and Friends is supposed to be a news show. if they want to state their opinions they should specify that they are their personal opinions and not a fact or news.
??? What on earth are you talking about??? US traditionally produced more grain than we consumed and it was in part because we did subsidize it. If you could sell something for $140 on the open market and your cost was $2 and you gave it away, did you subsidize to tune of $2 or $140? economic answer = $140.
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So here's her phone # as well.
: )
Just sent the diamonds comparison to my senators. I from Wisconsin so who knows if it will sink in how ludacris it sounds.
Flood congress and Pelosi today with your calls and emails
DRILL OR GET OFF THE HILL
First, of the fill-in duo, and I don’t know their names, the guy on the right side of the screen seems pretty conservative to me. Second, Jonathan Hoenig is the guy from the business channel. He is one of the most, if not the most, conservative on the business panels. Good guy.
Arnold Schwarzenegger turned out to be the biggest girly man of them all.
sheesh, it makes me wonder if his lovely wife has chopped off his (what jesse said)
How about the Fox Biz guy on the "service" segment...he said that young people join the military today for purely selfish reasons being that they only want to attack and kill militant Islamists. I hit rewind three times to make sure I heard that correctly.
That would be Jonathon the Biz News guy. What a jerk. I shut off the TV and went out to inspect my roses as a result of that comment. Later my husband (who had missed Jonathon's comment) shut off the TV again because of the uninformed twerps with Gretchen.
I liked something I saw here. It works.
This is what I sent to each of Colorado’s Senators, individually.
Senator Allard, Senator Salazar;
Six words for each of my Senators...
Drill, or get off the hill!
Thank you
Rick Donaldson
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