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Rock-solid Proof? (Man and Dinosaur Walked the Earth Together?)
mineralwellsindex.com ^ | July 28, 2008 | David May

Posted on 07/31/2008 6:20:38 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

A slab of North Texas limestone is on track to rock the world, with its two imbedded footprints poised to make a huge impression in scientific and religious circles.

The estimated 140-pound stone was recovered in July 2000 from the bank of a creek that feeds the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, Texas, located about 53 miles south of Fort Worth. The find was made just outside Dinosaur Valley State Park, a popular destination for tourists known for its well-preserved dinosaur tracks and other fossils.

The limestone contains two distinct prints – one of a human footprint and one belonging to a dinosaur. The significance of the cement-hard fossil is that it shows the dinosaur print partially over and intersecting the human print.

In other words, the stone’s impressions indicate that the human stepped first, the dinosaur second. If proven genuine, the artifact would provide evidence that man and dinosaur roamed the Earth at the same time, according to those associated with the find and with its safekeeping. It could potentially toss out the window many commonly held scientific theories on evolution and the history of the world.

Finding scholars and experts on evolution, paleontology or creationism to speak about the discovery proved difficult. Some who were contacted said they didn’t want to comment on the prints without a personal inspection or without review of data from scientific tests.

However, Dr. Phillip Murry, a vertebrate paleontology instructor in the Geoscience department of Tarleton State University at Stephenville, Texas, stated in his response to an interview request: “There has never been a proven association of dinosaur (prints) with human footprints.”

The longtime amateur archeologist who found the fossil thinks that statement is now proven untrue.

The ‘Alvis Delk Cretaceous Footprint’

(Excerpt) Read more at mineralwellsindex.com ...


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KEYWORDS: archeology; creation; crevo; evolution; footprints; glenrose; godsgravesglyphs; paluxyriver; texas
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1 posted on 07/31/2008 6:20:39 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
If proven genuine...,

I have proof the earth is flat.

2 posted on 07/31/2008 6:24:36 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Cute. But the human footprint here is anatomically incorrect. The smaller toes don’t splay outward on a human foot, as depicted here.

Someone worked really hard on this forgery. Too bad they don’t know how the bones in the human foot are aligned.


3 posted on 07/31/2008 6:25:45 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Drango

Those footprints look intelligently carved to me. You can see a row of drill holes in the dino footprint.


4 posted on 07/31/2008 6:26:51 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Drango

This hoax has been going on for 50 years. I met the orignal owner of this land and he is a a self promoter. I have seen the prints that they refer to and they are not prints of man...but, if it furthers your cause, promote it, as the owner did to get admission to his “Jurassic park.” The dinosaur prints are real, however...


5 posted on 07/31/2008 6:27:43 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Getting out the popcorn


6 posted on 07/31/2008 6:29:47 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: SatinDoll

Also this type of rock forms in layers and the footprint is going through multiple layers of strata which would be impossible.


7 posted on 07/31/2008 6:30:36 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Soliton

Enjoy!


8 posted on 07/31/2008 6:30:57 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Doctor” Carl Baugh alert!!!


9 posted on 07/31/2008 6:32:43 PM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t know about those prints. Do dinosaur footprints really look like that? I don’t really know anything about it. But that dinosaur print looks kinda fishy to me.


10 posted on 07/31/2008 6:33:09 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Thig crioch air an t-saoghail, ach mairidh gaol 's ceol.)
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To: SatinDoll

well, then I’m anatomically incorrect. My toes splay outward.


11 posted on 07/31/2008 6:35:12 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Thig crioch air an t-saoghail, ach mairidh gaol 's ceol.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It was a busy six days.


12 posted on 07/31/2008 6:35:25 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: LukeL

Best refutation I’ve ever read at FR! Kudos.


13 posted on 07/31/2008 6:35:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Clearly Fred Flintstone was out walking Dino.


14 posted on 07/31/2008 6:36:07 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: Drango
What if it is proven to be authentic?
15 posted on 07/31/2008 6:36:55 PM PDT by ScoochDude
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To: LukeL
Also this type of rock forms in layers and the footprint is going through multiple layers of strata which would be impossible.

I am not going to argue that this find is genuine and am no expert in the formation of dinosaur prints, but mud does indeed build in seasonal strata that would erode in a similar pattern.

16 posted on 07/31/2008 6:40:53 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: LukeL

Please expand on that.


17 posted on 07/31/2008 6:40:58 PM PDT by ScoochDude
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To: mkmensinger
Clearly Fred Flintstone was out walking Dino.

and remember Chaka from Land of the Lost? (Sid and Marty Krofft)...

18 posted on 07/31/2008 6:41:40 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: LukeL

>>Also this type of rock forms in layers and the footprint is going through multiple layers of strata which would be impossible.<<

Well, well, what if he stood there for a REALLY LONG time?


19 posted on 07/31/2008 6:43:22 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Even if it’s true, it could mean a lot of things...


20 posted on 07/31/2008 6:43:55 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; blam; SunkenCiv

Cant they check some petrified Saber tooth tiger feces for human remains?


21 posted on 07/31/2008 6:47:02 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ScoochDude

Can’t be ALLOWED to be proven authentic.


22 posted on 07/31/2008 6:47:18 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: mamelukesabre
well, then I’m anatomically incorrect. My toes splay outward.

So do dino toes.

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&suggon=0&q=dinosaur+tracks&start=20&sa=N&ndsp=20

23 posted on 07/31/2008 6:47:21 PM PDT by js1138
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To: mamelukesabre

Entirely within the variety of the human gene possibilities.


24 posted on 07/31/2008 6:48:12 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: latina4dubya

“and remember Chaka from Land of the Lost? (Sid and Marty Krofft)...”

How about Beany and Cecil? :^)


25 posted on 07/31/2008 6:48:52 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: ScoochDude

> What if it is proven to be authentic?

You seem very hopeful. Sorry to disappoint you, but these sorts of hoaxes have been put forth for decades now.


26 posted on 07/31/2008 6:49:41 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: pissant

One saber tooth says to the other - “I’ve heard those things make a lot of different noises, but ‘Yabba Dabba Doo’ is a new one on me”


27 posted on 07/31/2008 6:49:46 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: RobRoy

The dinoraur was really heavy. His prints pushed through multiple layers. The human print was already there and filled in with silt when the dinosaur stepped on it. The man that found it even says he didn’t noticed the human print there untl he started flaking away some of the layers. That’s because the human print was filled in with silt when the dinosaur stepped there.

Just a theory.

I still don’t know if I believe that’s a real dinosaur print though.


28 posted on 07/31/2008 6:50:09 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Thig crioch air an t-saoghail, ach mairidh gaol 's ceol.)
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To: VictoryGal

Yeah, hoaxes like “piltdown man” are rampant.


29 posted on 07/31/2008 6:50:26 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB
I see a paralell between evolutionism and global warmingism.
once you believe, nothing will change your mind.
30 posted on 07/31/2008 6:50:31 PM PDT by ScoochDude
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Interesting but it looks a bit fake. Wouldn’t be surprised to find out someone is pulling a prank.


31 posted on 07/31/2008 6:50:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Obama has youth but McCain has an electric scooter.)
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To: ScoochDude

There are “other” reasons for both, and you and I both know it.


32 posted on 07/31/2008 6:51:18 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: VictoryGal

I’m just asking.


33 posted on 07/31/2008 6:51:27 PM PDT by ScoochDude
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34 posted on 07/31/2008 6:52:09 PM PDT by dighton
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To: ScoochDude
What if it is proven to be authentic?

I repeat....I have proof the earth is flat.

35 posted on 07/31/2008 6:52:40 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“In other words, the stone’s impressions indicate that the human stepped first, the dinosaur second.”

Looking at the photo, if anything, it shows the ‘human’ print on top of the dinosaur’s.


36 posted on 07/31/2008 6:52:46 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: latina4dubya

A big budget Hollywood production (a comedy) of Land of The Lost is coming our way, starring Will Ferrell.


37 posted on 07/31/2008 6:53:30 PM PDT by Sgt Joe Friday 714
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To: Coyoteman
Might be an entertaining thread.
38 posted on 07/31/2008 6:53:51 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: ScoochDude

“once you believe, nothing will change your mind.”

Do you believe?


39 posted on 07/31/2008 6:55:19 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: potlatch

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Pingeroo


40 posted on 07/31/2008 6:55:29 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: Drango
I repeat....What if it is proven to be authentic?
41 posted on 07/31/2008 6:55:59 PM PDT by ScoochDude
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To: ColdWater

Believe what? man has caused global warming or man walked with dinosaurs?


42 posted on 07/31/2008 6:56:59 PM PDT by ScoochDude
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The only “fossils” found in complete isolation without similar examples or pieces nearby in either life or death assemblages, with only one nearly perfect example known, and that example is so remarkable if true that it would topple centuries of conventional paleontological wisdom, fall neatly into the Piltdown man catagory.


43 posted on 07/31/2008 6:59:49 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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I repeat....What if it is proven to be authentic

Well then, when you sail around the earth, you will fall off the edge. what is it you don't understand about a flat earth?

44 posted on 07/31/2008 7:00:03 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Baloney - I’ve been hearing of these things since I was a kid and not one of them have been proven genuine. Heck, I still remember this guy who claimed to have found a gold chain inside a lump of coal. Of course, you had to pay him a fee to see it. lol!


45 posted on 07/31/2008 7:01:05 PM PDT by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: devolve

Wonderful looking fossil up there, must be worth a fortune.


46 posted on 07/31/2008 7:01:49 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: SatinDoll

Have you ever seen the footprints of someone who went barefoot for their entire lives? Their feet tend to be broader and the toes splayed out.


47 posted on 07/31/2008 7:02:03 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Edward Watson

I humbly ask any Young Earth Creationist to show me the fossil remains of any human in the same rock stratum as a dinosaur.

Surely that is not too hard of a request.

None have done so.


48 posted on 07/31/2008 7:04:23 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Drango

Its just a question.


49 posted on 07/31/2008 7:04:35 PM PDT by ScoochDude
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well, that just goes to show that men with shoes and dinosaurs walked the Earth together :-)


50 posted on 07/31/2008 7:05:07 PM PDT by rosenfan
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