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Olbermann: NRA 'Trying to Increase Deaths,' 2nd Amendment is for Muskets
NewsBusters ^ | July 31, 2008 | Brad Wilmouth

Posted on 07/31/2008 8:36:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On Wednesday's Countdown show, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann claimed that pro-gun groups like the NRA "are trying to increase deaths by gun," as he used his "Worst Person" segment to attack a gun rights activist who infiltrated gun control groups to spy on them: "Mary Lou Sapone infiltrated the executive boards and learned the plans of organizations trying to decrease deaths by gun in this country, and apparently reported it back to organizations like the NRA, which are trying to increase deaths by gun in this country." A month earlier, on the June 26 show, after the Supreme Court struck down Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban, Olbermann named Justice Antonin Scalia, whom he called a "clown," as "Worst Person" as the Countdown host ridiculously claimed that the Second Amendment only applies to the types of weapons that existed in 1791, like muskets, to be used in a militia.

Olbermann: "You've got around 30,000 gun deaths in this country per year, another 75,000 non-fatal gun wounds, half the suicides are by gun; and this clown and his four colleagues decided that the 32-year-old ban on handguns in Washington, D.C., and the demand that firearms kept in the home be locked or disassembled was unconstitutional based on the Second Amendment." (Transcripts follow)

The Countdown host continued: "Despite years of fog created by the NRA and right-wing organizations, that isn't very complicated: For the purposes of forming a state militia, you're entitled to keep and bear arms. Obviously, those would have to be the kind of arms in use in 1791, when the Bill of Rights was passed -- the musket, the wheel-lock, the flint lock, the 13th century Chinese hand cannon. Stuff like that. Scalia, of course, simply decided that the militia part of the Second Amendment is some sort of quaint anachronism that he could happily ignore. And there's the beautiful thing about our country -- they say anybody can grow up to be a Supreme Court justice. And in Antonin Scalia, there's your proof, and tonight's 'Worst Person in the World'!"

Below are transcripts of relevant portions of the July 30 and the June 26 Countdown show on MSNBC:

#From the July 30 Countdown:

KEITH OLBERMANN: The runnerup, Mary McFate, also known as Mary Lou Sapone. Mother Jones magazine reports this today. Ms. McFate is a 60-something woman, a quirky but constant participant in gun control organizations, like the Brady Campaign. Ms. Sapone is a 60-something woman, a former figure in the National Rifle Association and wealthy pro-gun activist. The magazine says they're the same person. As Mary McFate, Mary Lou Sapone infiltrated the executive boards and learned the plans of organizations trying to decrease deaths by gun in this country, and apparently reported it back to organizations like the NRA, which are trying to increase deaths by gun in this country. In other words, she was a Benedict Arnold for the gun lobby.

#From the June 26 Countdown:

KEITH OLBERMANN: And our winner, Justice Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court. You've got around 30,000 gun deaths in this country per year, another 75,000 non-fatal gun wounds, half the suicides are by gun; and this clown and his four colleagues decided that the 32-year-old ban on handguns in Washington, D.C., and the demand that firearms kept in the home be locked or disassembled was unconstitutional based on the Second Amendment. You remember the Second Amendment: "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Despite years of fog created by the NRA and right-wing organizations, that isn`t very complicated: For the purposes of forming a state militia, you're entitled to keep and bear arms. Obviously, those would have to be the kind of arms in use in 1791, when the Bill of Rights was passed -- the musket, the wheel-lock, the flint lock, the 13th century Chinese hand canon. Stuff like that. Scalia, of course, simply decided that the militia part of the Second Amendment is some sort of quaint anachronism that he could happily ignore. And there's the beautiful thing about our country -- they say anybody can grow up to be a Supreme Court justice. And in Antonin Scalia, there's your proof, and tonight's "Worst Person in the World"!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; antoninscalia; banglist; drivebymedia; keitholbermann; msm; msnbc; scotus; shallnotbeinfringed
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What a tool!
1 posted on 07/31/2008 8:36:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Idiot.


2 posted on 07/31/2008 8:37:59 PM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thusly, free speech should be limited to tracts printed on hand-operated presses!


3 posted on 07/31/2008 8:38:31 PM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

not to forget the 1st amendment demands that obermann practice journalism

by word of mouth and crow quill pen and ink.


4 posted on 07/31/2008 8:40:03 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No one takes this asshole seriously, least of all his colleagues who know that Keith would rather hear a fat boy fart than pretty girl sing. After Alan Alda and Phil Donahue, Olbermann is the third male in history to be diagnosed with vagina envy. God, what a monumental nonentity.


5 posted on 07/31/2008 8:40:34 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: ken21

oh and ben franklin might print off a few of his screeds.


6 posted on 07/31/2008 8:40:54 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder what kind and how many guns Olbermann owns. The most outspoken anti-gunners are almost always closet gun owners, which makes them elitist hypocrites of the worst kind.


7 posted on 07/31/2008 8:41:10 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: mozarky2

you stole my thunder


8 posted on 07/31/2008 8:41:25 PM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (fantasy hockey, anyone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Re: "...and the demand that firearms kept in the home be locked or disassembled was unconstitutional based on the Second Amendment."

Hmmm... Olberman if we played it your way there'd be no use having a weapon to protect one's self.

So in your world do the perp thugz get to roam the streets with unlocked, assembled weapons to go fire free zone on the sheeple?

9 posted on 07/31/2008 8:42:48 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can describe Olbermann’s future in four words:

“White House Press Secretary”


10 posted on 07/31/2008 8:45:28 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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2nd Amendment is for Muskets

Equal rights are for white, land owning, protestants.

11 posted on 07/31/2008 8:47:52 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

LOL!

If that’s the way he wants to see it!


12 posted on 07/31/2008 8:50:48 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And the first amd. only applies to handbills, manually printed books, and the unamplified human voice.

Not to mention, that given the state of medical treatment in 1780, flintlocks were MORE dangerous than today's weapons. Any hit in a limb resulted in amputation or death, any torso hit resulted in agonizing death. And even back then, there were "assault weapons" capable of spewing out dozens of deadly pellets: google the blunderbuss. That bell shaped muzzle was for rapidly loading a half pound of lead or iron chunks.

13 posted on 07/31/2008 8:56:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: donaldo

LMAO!

This thread has probably doubled his name recognition.


14 posted on 07/31/2008 8:58:32 PM PDT by EricT. (The tree of liberty needs to be watered...)
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To: Disambiguator

We’d know if Olbermann owned a gun. He would have shot some unfortunate delivery guy or maybe a limo driver who hadn’t restocked the bar in the back of the car.


15 posted on 07/31/2008 8:59:53 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who gives a 'Rat's patootie what this guy thinks? The Court considered his version, in several different permutations. He lost, the Supreme Court has spoken.

Now if they'd just send in a bunch of Federal Marshals to enforce it's order on the scofflaws of the DC Council.

16 posted on 07/31/2008 9:00:02 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mozarky2

Sure. And the 4th Amendment can’t possibly apply to electronic eavesdropping.


17 posted on 07/31/2008 9:00:32 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OMG! This Asshat actually said it! “the 2nd Amendement is about flintlocks”

How is this idiot taken seriously?


18 posted on 07/31/2008 9:03:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Hugin

You’d be surprised how far liberals will go.


19 posted on 07/31/2008 9:03:31 PM PDT by RepublicanProfessorette
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess liberals only believe the Constitution is a “living, breathing document” when it breaths in their favor. Everyday, their hypocrisy becomes more and more clear.


20 posted on 07/31/2008 9:04:53 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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