Skip to comments.Duncan Hunter: Why do we Tolerate Mexican Troop Incursions?
Posted on 08/14/2008 4:56:09 AM PDT by kellynla
The men and women of the U.S. Border Patrol guarding the Southern land border come into constant contact with drug and human smugglers, criminals and migrants. Every so often, they even encounter Mexican military personnel making unauthorized incursions across the border into the United States.
The most recent Mexican military incursion occurred last week on the Tohono Oodham Indian Reservation in Arizona. According to reports, the Mexican soldiers crossed the border in a military vehicle and held a Border Patrol agent at gunpoint before escaping back to Mexico.
While the agent who was temporarily detained by the Mexican soldiers was not injured, there is no question that this incident could have ended differently -- especially when the soldiers and agent were armed, and backup was on its way to assist the officer. Nonetheless, this incident raises serious questions about the presence and activities of the Mexican military on the border.
A State Department spokesman, responding to the incursion in Arizona, said the incident stemmed from a momentary misunderstanding. This statement is difficult to accept when there have been more than 40 incursions on the U.S-Mexico border since October of last year and over 200 similar encounters since 1996. Clearly, Mexican military incursions are far from a rare occurrence.
The Departments of State and Homeland Security, which have downplayed these encounters in the past, have an obligation to forcefully address this incident and the likelihood of future incursions. We must convey to Mexico that we will not tolerate their soldiers crossing into the U.S. without our knowledge or consent. More importantly, we must continue building fencing and other infrastructure in problematic areas of the border, including those prone to incursions.
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This is a far more serious matter than illegal immigration.
They already feel entitled. And why wouldn’t they?
The US government, and the two schlubs running for POTUS, don’t seem to care.
They never speak out about this. Both of them should be drilled on this issue.
Because they are ‘God’s Children’.
Cheap labor at any cost.
Sorry, Duncan, you work up in the viper pit in Washington, you KNOW this is a rhetorical question. We tolerate these incursions because, if we didn't, it might discourage the next bunch of illegals from trying to invade the US by illegally entering our country and sucking down our social services and resources.
This isn't rocket science, Duncan.
We tolerate them because open border traitors run our govt.
Because Mexico is ______________.
Cause the Mexicans have photos of G.W. that could be considered embarassing.
Why do you think G.W. has had his lips on the Mexicans backsides from the gitty up?
Send us your poor unwashed uneducated masses.
The State Dept. knows it happens, allows it to happen and downplays the incursions as momentary misunderstandings when they do happen? Makes me wonder what's really going on. Given the world we live in, our open borders should be a constant training exercise for our military and national guard along with the border patrol. We go off to fight wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and leave the front and back doors open here at home. Why?
Our Politicians & Elites have been reading white papers from Think Tanks for the last 30+ years that says Third World types will be the eventual majority in the US sometime this century. Instead of showing the leardership to resist it (while we easily could have), they buckled under and decided to help facilitate and accelerate it. Why? Because they figure they, and their ilk, will always be able to ride the tiger. Besides, its easier to govern a nation of dependent peons than it is a Nation of free, independent-minded people.
My assessment: at this point, the country is pretty much hosed. Perhaps not now, but in 30 years you’ll see the consequences of current policy. We are just like the Romans in the late 300s—they knew things going in the wrong direction, but life was too easy & good for them to get too upset. Nothing but a civil war could change things. In other words, we’d almost have to destroy the country to save it.
That should take care of it.
Military incursions are not law enforcement matters. These are military matters. Where are the closest U.S. Army and Marine bases to that region? If military commanders know of these incursions, what is their duty when sworn to defend the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic? Enemies I say, because friends don't come across our borders and hold federal (or any) officers (or any Americans) at gun point.
And what has happened to the militia movement in the USA of late? I hear absolutely nothing anymore? Have they been totally emasculated? Back in the 1990s there was a lot of news about, and rearing up of militia types all seemingly wanting to go into action.
I seem to remember a militia leader named Cooper (if my memory serves me correctly) back around ‘94, ‘95 who was all over the news and he was talking to the Feds about the possibility of militia units going to the Mexican border to defend it. What happened to him?
What would happen if a band of armed citizens came across such an incursion and were to take on a Mexican unit, and, let's say, they are able to take them prisoner? What would the Feds be forced to do then? If this were to happen, what would be the likelihood of the American citizens being charged with crimes, and apologies being made to the Mexican government. Somehow, now, that is what I would see happening.
Or could you imagine Americans coming across this and in a firefight killing Mexican soldiers? I am so cynical anymore that our federal government has so abandoned our national sovereignty and our borders, that patriotic Americans would be seen as the violators and as criminals for trying to defend our borders.
It's not cynicism. It's reality. Heck, they put two guys who's job it was to defend the border in jail for defending the border.
God help us.
Misunderstandings weren’t an issue with the East/West German border. I wonder why?
The last time we "surged"NG troopers to the border, they were sent without the means to defend themselves by our elected betters. In fact, one or more groups of NG were forced to abandon their posts by incoming small arms fire from our friends south of the border.
As with most things dealing in human nature, this situation won't get better until it first gets far, far worse. By then however, demographic reality will have taken hold for good and we as a nation, a concept, and a way of life will be irreversably humped.
I'm almost rooting for someone with nothing left to lose to do something stupid and try to force destiny's hand.
Because we have a President and a congress that let ‘lil ol Mexico bully them on many issues.
Isn’t “Mexican military” an oxymoron...? Or, are they better than we might think?
In the absence of even token resistance, the Mexican military may as well be the most unstoppable force on this planet. This doesn't change until someone comes up with the gumption to start sending invaders home in body bags.
I’m waiting for Obama to appeal to the UN about this one. For now he’s playing dumb...
Just training per globalists’ instructions . . . for
future . . .
assistance with the slaves/serfs.
Grr. *somewhat more miffed at lack of Hunter in election*
If McCain’s smart, he’ll tap this guy for Secretary of Defense/State/Homeland Security (or Tancredo, for that matter).
There should be some armed UAVs close to the border and these incursions should end with destroyed vehicles and Mexican units north of the border. We should also start using Hellfires on drug cartel houses inside Mexico. There is a war going on there and we are in it, if only passively.
I hear ya, man!
The inaction of our fearless leaders are enough to make one wonder if they aren't augmenting their meager gummint salaries with "contributions" from drug runners.
"Follow the money" is generally a good policy when all other logical explanations are shot to hell.
Oh, great! All we need is renegade Mexican soldiers raiding a border town and murdering U.S. troops and civilians the way Pancho Villa’s revolutionaries did at Columbus, New Mexico in 1916.
My Duncan Hunter bumper sticker is still lookin’ good on the back winda of my car, y’all..
I'm voting for him....he's an Independent, natch!
..patriots are doing what they can....
Thank you, Friend! I will look for a copy.
..there are Freepers here who are personally involved as well.
It's a well documented, personal account of folks living in these border towns who are sick and tired & trying to make a difference.
It's nitty/gritty, downhome and real.
Our grandchildren are screwed.
Thank you liberals of both parties.
“They never speak out about this. Both of them should be drilled on this issue”
You nailed it. Nobody is talking about the number one issue facing this country, illegal immigration. Instead we get 24/7 on a politicians affair. The media truly controls the sheeple.
“Our Politicians & Elites have been reading white papers from Think Tanks for the last 30+ years that says Third World types will be the eventual majority in the US sometime this century. Instead of showing the leardership to resist it (while we easily could have), they buckled under and decided to help facilitate and accelerate it. Why? Because they figure they, and their ilk, will always be able to ride the tiger. Besides, its easier to govern a nation of dependent peons than it is a Nation of free, independent-minded people.
My assessment: at this point, the country is pretty much hosed. Perhaps not now, but in 30 years youll see the consequences of current policy. We are just like the Romans in the late 300sthey knew things going in the wrong direction, but life was too easy & good for them to get too upset. Nothing but a civil war could change things. In other words, wed almost have to destroy the country to save it.”
My sentiments exactly!
Even if I knew it would happen, McCain still wouldn’t get my vote. And even though I know Hunter supports McCain, I’d hate to think of Duncan being a part of an administration that gives amnesty to 35 plus million illegals.
That’s assuming the people would let it happen.
Then we can build a park and name it for the leader of the renegades, as we did for Pancho Villa—yep no joke there is a Pancho Villa State Park at Columbus, NM. I drive by it every once in a while and it annoys me to no end.
A state park named after Pancho Villa? You’re kidding me!
That’s like naming the U.S. Navy base in Pearl Harbor after Yamamoto.
Not kidding, unfortunately. We have to be the craziest people on earth- we pretend Mexico is our friend and it is all good. NOT.
“A State Department spokesman, responding to the incursion in Arizona, said the incident stemmed from a momentary misunderstanding. This statement is difficult to accept when there have been more than 40 incursions on the U.S-Mexico border since October of last year and over 200 similar encounters since 1996.”
Hunter speakin’ the truth...again.
DH Bump. And what do you think the chances of Russia acting during a Hunter presidency would be? Zilch.
What night is Duncan Hunter speaking at the GoP convention 8-? I see Rudy got a slot.
Shoot the bastards.
Thanks, but I’m in Shanghai, China currently. No Blockbusters here. I’ll have to go the Google route.
It’s tolerated because big drug money can pay off a lot of people to look the other way.
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