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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: princess leah; drierice
Yes, you should have been here in 2000 - I joined right before the elections, and man, was I glad I had Free Republic to get through those tense days after the election when Al Gore was doing everything to try and steal it - and the HANGING CHADS! Holy Cow!

Yeah.
Remember when the Dade County, Florida election offices were FReeped?
LOL! They didn't know what to do when the offices were stormed by protesting FReepers en masse when Algore tried to steal the election.
Lots of lurkers joined the FR ranks during that time.

1,981 posted on 08/16/2008 11:50:23 PM PDT by XR7
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To: firewalk
ps: Howlin I miss seeing your posts...

well, that makes one of you

1,982 posted on 08/16/2008 11:51:13 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: Fudd Fan

Rick Warren also appears to be the author of the Pork Chop Driven Life.


1,983 posted on 08/16/2008 11:58:36 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Linden1209

You seem to know the subject. How would you put Joel Osteen into the mix?


1,984 posted on 08/17/2008 12:20:28 AM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Wow. He really has a ways with words, doesn’t he?


1,985 posted on 08/17/2008 12:23:09 AM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Alan Keyes is a premiere sophist. It's hard to take seriously anyone who takes him seriously. Seriously.

What you just posted has all the substance and relevance of an Obama post.

Feel free to pass that on to Dr. Keyes.

1,986 posted on 08/17/2008 12:32:50 AM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Nasher
MSNBC is trashing Obama

Oh my. That can't be good for The Chosen One.

1,987 posted on 08/17/2008 12:33:04 AM PDT by McGruff (Kick Russia out of the G8, Kick them Now!)
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To: too much time
so are many of the Catholic priests who went through seminary at that time.

Not so anymore, I can assure you.

1,988 posted on 08/17/2008 12:36:25 AM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Nasher
John McCain even hit a home run on a Hillary Clinton forum. Saddleback Live Thread:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net : "Saddleback Civil Forum Thread"

Barry's got his work cut out in uniting his party. :)

1,989 posted on 08/17/2008 12:44:48 AM PDT by Nasher (BHO: His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: Himself!)
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To: kcvl

There are actually quiet a few English versions of the Bible that can past muster - including some that don’t have the obvious mistranslations of the KJV.


1,990 posted on 08/17/2008 12:50:42 AM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: SoCalPol

Thomas is by far the most articulate and intellectual of any of the justices as demonstrated by the clarity and economy of his decisions.


1,991 posted on 08/17/2008 1:06:56 AM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: mbraynard; SoCalPol
Thomas is by far the most articulate and intellectual of any of the justices as demonstrated by the clarity and economy of his decisions.

Yes.
And by criticizing Justice Thomas, Obama revealed what a brilliant jurist he is.

1,992 posted on 08/17/2008 1:10:59 AM PDT by XR7
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To: Theodore R.

I got the book and looked up every Bible reference. That was eye-opening.


1,993 posted on 08/17/2008 1:22:34 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: kcvl

A subtle Christian way to oppose abortion would be to celebrate the birth of your children on the day they were conceived.


1,994 posted on 08/17/2008 1:25:08 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: XR7

Wow..Do I feel better about McCain!


1,995 posted on 08/17/2008 1:26:32 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military)
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To: Kimberly GG
Like I said, I’ll be voting for neither, and IMO, content aside, where presentation is concerned, Obama took this, hands down.

Er, um. uh, would you like an er, um uh, French manicure, for your er, um hands.

1,996 posted on 08/17/2008 1:29:26 AM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: huldah1776; dixiechick2000; WKB; Squantos
A subtle Christian way to oppose abortion would be to celebrate the birth of your children on the day they were conceived.

lol...and we could hold the party out of the back of that 2005 GMC Dually I had to get even more precise on that note...

the end result is on my homepage....not bad for a couple of old farts if I say so myself

1,997 posted on 08/17/2008 1:38:31 AM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: Nasher

man..they must hate Obama to be gaggling over McCain


1,998 posted on 08/17/2008 1:44:04 AM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: Kimberly GG

Oh so “you will be voting for neither” BUT OUB’SSAMA was more relax following the advises and training of his new “Guru”(among others)Georgy CLOOWN(EY) (and i forgot P.HILTON)....
Right i think you got the big issue! OUSSBAMA looks relax!

Think you remark is relevant and helpfull!(sarc)

Nobody knows really how you are going to vote BTW...


1,999 posted on 08/17/2008 1:45:12 AM PDT by Ulysse (i)
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To: XR7

bookmark


2,000 posted on 08/17/2008 1:46:11 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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