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Obama Flunks Rick Warren's Abortion Question
InsideCatholic.com ^ | 8/18/08 | Deal W. Hudson

Posted on 08/19/2008 12:48:11 PM PDT by Publius804

Obama Flunks Rick Warren's Abortion Question

by Deal W. Hudson

8/18/08

Here's a truism: If you're running for President, don't answer a question by saying, "That's above my pay grade." After all, if you want to occupy the White House, there is no higher pay grade. You are the boss, and the buck stops with you.

But Barack Obama used precisely that expression when asked by Rick Warren at what point "a baby gets human rights." Obama said, "Whether you're looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity . . . is above my pay grade."

How can a man who has voted three times on the Born Again Infant Protection Act be unable to answer that question with "specificity"? Does he mean that he voted against BAIPA without having an answer to that question? But then what did he base his vote on?

Obama made the telling mistake of pitting the truths of science against the truths of theology. He seems to think there are two truths in contradiction to each other. And his implication is clear: Theology teaches life begins at conception, but science sees it differently.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; democrats; elections; mccain; nobama08; obama; rickwarren
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1 posted on 08/19/2008 12:48:14 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804
Warren gave him an out by saying "baby" - instead of going with it, he decided to declare himself undecided on whether infanticide is OK.

I thought Obama was much more cunning than that.

2 posted on 08/19/2008 12:52:22 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

I’m beginning to think that, because of a lifetime spent in the company of far-out lefties, Obama discovered that there’s such a thing as a pro-lifer only recently—and he’s never really talked to one. And he’s not very bright.


3 posted on 08/19/2008 12:57:19 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Publius804
One of the simplest, and most effective pro-life arguments is: If we don't know when life begins, then we must err on the side of not killing a fetus because we may be killing an innocent human.

Obama admits he doesn't know - fine. So how does he justify ending what may be life?

4 posted on 08/19/2008 1:00:17 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Publius804

Science sees it differently?

I saw a thread about how science has proved through DNA testing, that a human exists at the time of conception, as a distinct, separate, human being.


5 posted on 08/19/2008 1:00:57 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
So how does he justify ending what may be life?

narcissistic evil?

6 posted on 08/19/2008 1:01:52 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Publius804
if you want to occupy the White House, there is no higher pay grade

Are they being as obtuse as Obama? He was clearly making a reference to God, but being careful not to name Him for fear of infuriating his base.

7 posted on 08/19/2008 1:03:00 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Publius804
I can just see the sign on his desk:
The Buck Stops at some higher pay-grade

(Just where does it stop? The editorial board of the New York Times?)

8 posted on 08/19/2008 1:04:44 PM PDT by jdege
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To: Publius804

9 posted on 08/19/2008 1:04:46 PM PDT by EscapedDutch (I spent $5,000 to become a LEGAL resident of the US. If illegals get amnesty, I demand a refund!)
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To: EscapedDutch

Obama has core beliefs, and he’s smart enough to know that he can’t be honest about them.


10 posted on 08/19/2008 1:06:03 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Publius804

Everyone seems to forget that in 2004 Obama said the Pesidency is above his pay grade.

Video - Barack Obama says will NOT run for President 2008 election because he lacks experience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6syUD1I4U

I would love to see McCain use this in an ad, with a simple I’m John McCain and I agree with and approve this message.


11 posted on 08/19/2008 1:06:56 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Publius804
Born Again Infant Protection Act

And if that baby's born again, Obama will let that baby be killed again.

How long before some pro-abort comes out and says that surviving abortion doesn't count as an actual birth, i.e., the baby wasn't really born, just removed from womb, and is still subject to the mother's "wishes".

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12 posted on 08/19/2008 1:15:46 PM PDT by repentant_pundit (Strong leaders are overrated. We need strong followers...of the Constitution)
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To: Publius804

I am seeing a lot of congruence between Obama’s behavior and thinking, and the thinking of a radical, West-hating Muslim. E.g. kill the infidel children (abortion). Unrestricted immigration into the Lands of War (Dar al-Harb). etc.


13 posted on 08/19/2008 1:20:48 PM PDT by ikka
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To: repentant_pundit

Look up Princeton professor Peter Singer - he is very concerned about animal rights, but would not deem a newborn baby outside the wome a “person” until about a month or so after birth.

We’re already well down the slippery slope.


14 posted on 08/19/2008 1:21:43 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842

wome = womb


15 posted on 08/19/2008 1:22:17 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Your comment says it all..


16 posted on 08/19/2008 1:23:58 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: repentant_pundit
Born Again Infant Protection Act

That should be "Born Alive...

17 posted on 08/19/2008 1:24:55 PM PDT by smokinleroy (How come gas prices spiked only AFTER the democrats won Congress?)
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To: repentant_pundit

Boxer, in the Senate record, states that the baby isn’t really a baby until “maybe when they take it home”.

Obama, on the Illinois Senate floor, stated that this (BAIPA) bill would be “to much of a burden on the woman”.

Your hypothetical is not hypothetical.


18 posted on 08/19/2008 1:25:08 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: smokinleroy

OH, don’t put it past them.

The left despises Christians a lot!


19 posted on 08/19/2008 1:25:59 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
I'll make it easy for Barry.

If he medical definition of death is the absence of brainwaves and a heartbeat, than the definition of life is the presence of brainwaves and a heartbeat.

20 posted on 08/19/2008 1:28:14 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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