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Obama attacks McCain but fails to sway VFW crowd
McClatchy ^ | August 20, 2008 | Margaret Talev

Posted on 08/20/2008 7:29:41 AM PDT by cdchik123

Democrat Barack Obama used his appearance Tuesday at a Veterans of Foreign Wars convention to attack Republican John McCain's critique of him to the group a day earlier - but got a cooler reception than did the Vietnam veteran running against him for president.

Obama denied McCain's assertions that he was for failure in Iraq, or shifting his anti-war stance out of expediency, or in any way basing his foreign policy on a strategy to win the presidency. "Let's have a serious debate, and let's debate our disagreements on the merits of policy - not personal attacks," Obama said.

Obama said he wouldn't attack McCain's pro-war motives because "I believe that he genuinely wants to serve America's national interest" and that "now, it's time for him to acknowledge that I want to do the same. I will let no one question my love of this country."

`SNIP`

But McCain was the clear favorite among the predominately older, white male crowd, and there was little indication that Obama's speech changed minds. Fewer VFW members attended Obama's remarks than McCain's - due at least partly to heavy rain and hurricane and tornado threats.

Meanwhile, many of the veterans left the hall with frowns on their faces.

"You don't want to know what I think," said one. "I don't have anything nice to say," said another.

Sam Compton, an Air Force veteran who served in Vietnam, said Obama "seems to be talking out of both sides of his mouth" when he calls for bringing Iraq troops home and focusing more on domestic priorities, then talks about the need to redeploy troops to Afghanistan. "McCain in my personal opinion has more experience on foreign affairs than Obama and has served in the military. I think that's important."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrats; elections; foreignpolicy; nobama08; obama; obamasama; osamabama; veterans; veteransvote; vets; vfw
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1 posted on 08/20/2008 7:29:42 AM PDT by cdchik123
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"Let's have a serious debate, and let's debate our disagreements on the merits of policy - not personal attacks," Obama said.

Pretty bold statement given the attack ad Obama is running in Florida.

2 posted on 08/20/2008 7:31:09 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: cdchik123
"Let's have a serious debate, and let's debate our disagreements on the merits of policy - not personal attacks," Obama said.

Is Obama inviting McCain to have a townhall meeting in front of the VFW?

3 posted on 08/20/2008 7:32:57 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: cdchik123

“has served in the military. I think that’s important.”

For Vets - that sums it up why few would vote for him and the report last week that active military were siding with Obama were false.


4 posted on 08/20/2008 7:33:35 AM PDT by edcoil
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To: NonValueAdded
Pretty bold statement given the attack ad Obama is running in Florida.

Bingo!

Just love how UH-bama wants to "Bring a responsible end to the war in Iraq."

AND...

Go to his website to "read the plan" since he can't say what it is in public.

5 posted on 08/20/2008 7:34:46 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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He doesn’t know he’s dealing with an egotistical bluffer, whose whole persona is a confabulation of Other People stolen “cool”? He’s an Abby Normal construct of a politician...Stealing from JFK, MLK, Wright, Lincoln, etc...He’s a Mojo vampire.

“Above my pay grade!”...When was he *ever* employed or worked in any job that he dealt with ‘pay grade level responsibilities”?? What a load! He stole the line because he thought it would make him sound cool, and like he had military/executive level...”chops”.

If you took away everything from his personality and his speeches, his polies, and his “cool” that he stole from *OTHER PEOPLE*...There’d be nuthin much left.


6 posted on 08/20/2008 7:34:49 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I believe Obama said several months ago that he would debate Mc Cain anywhere, anytime. Like this hallow statement, I guess he means anything but face to face debates.


7 posted on 08/20/2008 7:35:33 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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Mr. Obama is a thin-skinned dilettante who doesn’t know that politics is a blood sport.

He’s not tough enough to run a Steak & Ale.


8 posted on 08/20/2008 7:35:46 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Yup, ORAG, he said that in May, 2008.

Good catch.


9 posted on 08/20/2008 7:36:35 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: cdchik123
Fewer VFW members attended Obama's remarks than McCain's - due at least partly to heavy rain and hurricane and tornado threats.

It was the weather that dampened the O's turnout. Yeah, that's the ticket!

10 posted on 08/20/2008 7:36:37 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("It's not my fault if McCain loses - it's his own damn fault!" - Mark Levin)
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“Let's have a serious debate, and let's debate our disagreements on the merits of policy - not personal attacks,” Obama said.

Pretty funny as this c**t is afraid to debate McCain.

11 posted on 08/20/2008 7:36:38 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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Obama denied McCain's assertions that he was for failure in Iraq, ....

The historical record speaks for itself:

Published JAN 30, 2007: Obama wants troops home by spring ’08 ……. Illinois senator, presidential candidate introduces bill to force redeployment

12 posted on 08/20/2008 7:36:44 AM PDT by Polybius
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"You don't want to know what I think," said one. "I don't have anything nice to say," said another.

Hehehehehe...

Sam Compton, an Air Force veteran who served in Vietnam, said Obama "seems to be talking out of both sides of his mouth"

Seems?!

13 posted on 08/20/2008 7:37:32 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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Democrat Barack Obama used his appearance Tuesday at a Veterans of Foreign Wars

Is Obamasiah seeing dead people again?

14 posted on 08/20/2008 7:39:17 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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“Fewer VFW members attended Obama’s remarks than McCain’s - due at least partly to heavy rain and hurricane and tornado threats. “

Right. Let’s blame the rain.


15 posted on 08/20/2008 7:40:57 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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“Fewer VFW members attended Obama’s remarks than McCain’s - due at least partly to heavy rain and hurricane and tornado threats.”

He He He

Bad grammar too.


16 posted on 08/20/2008 7:40:57 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (Orationem pulchram non habens, scribo ista linea in lingua Latina.***)
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To: RexBeach

“He’s not tough enough to run a Steak & Ale.”

I think the Steak & Ale chain went out of business. Hopefully Obama will also be soon out of business.


17 posted on 08/20/2008 7:41:35 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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NBC is sure to open their package thusly...

Senator Obama received a chilly reception during a recent speech at the VFW Post. The audience, mostly older, white and male seemed dour and unmoved by the senator's inspiring words. Members of the audience remarked later about their reservations for the first black candidate for president.

18 posted on 08/20/2008 7:42:34 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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“...let's debate our disagreements on the merits of policy - not personal attacks,”

That sounds like McCain won't be permitted to challenge his political opponent on his policies and views, because ANY statement by McCain (especially those too painfully close to home for Obama) will be construed as ‘personal’ attacks. Pardon me for noticing, but isn't political campaigning by definition, a matter of candidates challenging each other's positions? How is it a personal attack on Obama if McCain accurately revisits Obama’s own statements??? Explain this please.

19 posted on 08/20/2008 7:45:17 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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I believe that he genuinely wants to serve America's national interest" and that "now, it's time for him to acknowledge that I want to do the same.

True leaders don't seek out affirmation from others.

Comments like this make Obambi look very weak.

20 posted on 08/20/2008 7:46:13 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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