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Outrage Of The Week: The Anti-Hunting NRA?!
NRA - ILA ^ | August 22, 2008 | NA

Posted on 08/22/2008 9:38:32 PM PDT by neverdem


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Outrage Of The Week: The Anti-Hunting NRA?!
 
Friday, August 22, 2008
 

The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) is once again trying to confuse hunters into believing two bold lies:  that the NRA does not support hunting, and that AHSA and the Sierra Club do. 

In a report released on August 21, AHSA makes the ridiculous argument that NRA is anti-hunting because NRA does not support the same candidates that Sierra Club and other environmental groups support.  The problem is, these groups rate candidates on their radical environmental record, not on their support for hunting or for gun owners' rights.  In fact, the politicians endorsed by the Sierra Club are a "Who's Who" of the most anti-gun politicians in American history.  Gun-ban advocates like Barack Obama, John Kerry, Charles Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, Frank Lautenberg, Jack Reed, and Teddy Kennedy have all been endorsed by the Sierra Club.  Since Teddy Kennedy wants to ban almost all ammunition used by hunters in America, it is impossible to see how the Sierra Club is supporting hunters by endorsing him. 

Groups like the Sierra Club rate lawmakers on many issues that have nothing to do with hunters or hunting, and do not rate on some issues that do.  While the Sierra Club supports massive set-asides of land under wilderness designations, they fail to consider hunter access to these lands.  Wilderness designations often create problems for hunters because they do not provide for methods of access needed to actually use the land for hunting, since all improvements--including roads, trails and other changes--are prohibited.  Such designations also prohibit programs to provide food and water to wildlife during times of drought.  These policies are hardly good for hunters. Neither is Sierra Club support for anti-gun politicians who would end gun shows, ban guns and ammo, and support gun registration and gun licensing. 

NRA knows that without our Second Amendment rights, Americans will lose our firearms to radical politicians like Obama.  And without the right to own firearms, our hunting tradition will not survive.  With this report, AHSA has made one thing perfectly clear:  it is willing to sacrifice Second Amendment rights--and in the end, hunting in America--on the altar of its radical anti-gun agenda. 

On the other hand, the NRA Political Victory Fund grades candidates first and foremost on their position on the protection of the Second Amendment, but also on their positions in support of issues relating to hunters.  These issues include access to hunting lands, proper scientific management of game species, and expanding opportunities for hunters and hunting.  NRA is also one of the most effective advocates for issues that truly impact hunters.  Over the decades, NRA has worked hard at the federal and state level to protect and enhance our hunting heritage.  NRA worked to reform federal law on migratory birdhunting.  We have fought to keep federal lands open to hunting, to open more federal lands for hunters, and to protect conservation reserve programs that provide vital habitat for game species.  In the states, NRA has worked for passage of youth hunting programs, for no-net-loss bills that ensure the amount of public land available to hunters is not diminished, and for increased hunter access plans like Open Fields and walk-in programs. AHSA has done none of this. 

AHSA claims it is promoting "conservation," but in truth, the groups it is endorsing are radical environmental groups.  For these groups, hunting is either not a factor at all, or, at best, something to be endured but not promoted.  In fact, these groups oppose hunting if it interferes with their radical agenda, as it did when it came to listing polar bears as endangered and banning the importation of polar bear trophies. 

AHSA knows its report is phony, which is why it never lists any of the anti-gun politicians it is attacking NRA for not supporting.  But for AHSA to mislead gun owners and hunters is nothing new.  AHSA claims to be pro-gun, but in reality, they are not. 

AHSA was created with the specific intent to provide political cover for anti-gun politicians by allowing them to claim support from a "sportsmen's" group. In truth, the anti-gun credentials of AHSA's leadership is well documented.  In 2000, AHSA president Ray Schoenke donated $5,000 to Handgun Control, Inc. (now the Brady Campaign) and the Ray and Holly Schoenke Foundation also made donations to the Brady Campaign. Former AHSA Board member John Rosenthal remains the leader of Stop Handgun Violence, and has recently unveiled a new anti-gun billboard in Massachusetts attacking gun shows with misleading and untrue claims. And one of the leading organizers, and current Executive Director, of AHSA is Bob Ricker, who has been a paid expert witness against gun manufacturers in a number of reckless lawsuits. (For more information, see Anti-Gunners Don Camo As Elections Loom.) AHSA is a front group for left-wing zealots who want to fool sportsmen into voting for anti-gun candidates by lying to them about the issues.  That is why AHSA has endorsed Barack Obama and his extreme anti-gun views.  That is why AHSA is now attacking NRA for failing to endorse men and women who would end most gun ownership in America, including the guns used by hunters.  NRA members, and everyone who really cares about our hunting tradition, should be reassured that NRA does not, and will not ever, endorse the vast majority of radical anti-gun zealots regularly supported by the Sierra Club and AHSA.



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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; ahsa; banglist; democratparty; democrats; electionpresident; elections; hunting; nobama08; nra

1 posted on 08/22/2008 9:38:33 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Lifer bump.


2 posted on 08/22/2008 9:41:43 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: neverdem

What pap, the NRA is not perfect, they do however support hunters and hunting.

What a nonsensical story.


3 posted on 08/22/2008 9:41:53 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Romans 10.10/Eze 11.2)
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To: NFHale

PING!


4 posted on 08/22/2008 9:42:09 PM PDT by Das Outsider ("Be content to remember that those who can make omelettes properly can do nothing else. "--Belloc)
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To: neverdem

I got something from the NRA a few years ago about this group. They’re still yelling and complaining about them?

I still haven’t heard about them outside of NRA material. I wish they’d quit wasting their time on this and do some real work, like on some legislation...

Oh wait, last time they did that we got the Veterans Disarmament Bill. Nevermind NRA, keep complaining about the AHSA. It’s less damaging to my gun rights that way.


5 posted on 08/22/2008 9:45:53 PM PDT by ericc4
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To: neverdem

AHSA is supported by all of Anti-gun’s usual suspects.


6 posted on 08/22/2008 9:46:37 PM PDT by wjcsux (NOBAMA, Keep the change.)
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To: neverdem
The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) is once again trying to confuse hunters into believing two bold lies: that the NRA does not support hunting, and that AHSA and the Sierra Club do. "
The proper modifier for the "The American Hunters and Shooters Association " is "controlled opposition" or "gun-grabber front group"
7 posted on 08/22/2008 10:13:50 PM PDT by rmlew (I stand with Georgia against the Kremlin's Russian irredentism and Soviet revanchism.)
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To: neverdem

The, American Hunters and Shooters Association is a liberal group. They are against what they call military looking semi-auto “assault rifles”.

You only have to read whats on their website to know this.


8 posted on 08/22/2008 11:20:24 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: neverdem
all improvements--including roads, trails and other changes--are prohibited.

Not actually true. Maintenance and construction of trails is not prohibited in wilderness areas.

9 posted on 08/22/2008 11:58:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: ericc4

You sound just like a member of the AHSA.

The NRA has five lawsuits going because of Heller. San Francisco, D.C., Oak Park, Chicago and Evanston.

The NRA has on the average of sixty lawsuits supporting their membership through their legal assistance program.

Castle Doctrine, CCW laws, Gun range protection, Firearms manufacturers Protection and the NRA is going to spend forty million dollars this election.

What has your group ever done besides criticize the NRA?


10 posted on 08/23/2008 5:31:48 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Das Outsider; Gilbo_3; hiredhand; Squantos; Jo Nuvark

Thanks for the Ping, Das...

AHSA is a wolf in sheepdog clothing; they are a group that was put together specifically to “divide and conquer” shooters. You know - “well, I’m a hunter, and I don’t see the need for an Assault Rifle - after all, you can’t hunt with an Assault Rifle....” blah, blah, blah...usually from people who don’t even know what an “Assault Rifle” is...but also heard it from the hardcore agitators as well, who DO, and who know that WE know as well...

Heard that crap so many times, and it still makes me want to puke. Trouble is, people who are nominally on our side, but NOT paying attention, start to believe it. So we need to take the time to educate people (our own, and those that know nothing about firearms).

The NRA, while not always as agressive as I’d like them to be, while compromising a little too much at times with THE ENEMY, is still the largest muscle we have, and we should redouble our efforts to purge ANY elements in the NRA (and GOP, for that matter) that want to compromise with the so-called “Blue Dog Dems”. We need more Ted Nugents directing the organization, vocal, obnoxious towards the enemy, and dynamic. More combat vets - past and present - running and directing the organization - people grounded in REALITY, and who know who the real enemy is here in our country, after fighting them overseas.

The fact is - you can’t call yourself a 2nd Amendment organization, or Gun-rights supporter and then turn around and promote and vote for gun-grabbing Dems or RINOs, just like you can’t call yourself a Christian and vote for baby-killing abortion-supporters. It’s a fraud, either way, and needs to be publicly exposed over and over and over.

All efforts to expose AHSA and the Sierra idiots for the frauds they are should be brought to bear immediately, aggressively, with due diligence.

On the other hand - some of OUR people need to get inside the AHSA Board of Directors or their information network and alert us to any mischief they may be up to. To be sure, their people are in our organizations...


11 posted on 08/23/2008 6:06:50 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: NFHale

See post five.


12 posted on 08/23/2008 7:34:13 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5; Gilbo_3; hiredhand; Squantos; Das Outsider

Roger that.

For the record, I am an NRA member too (since I was 11, actually), and DO appreciate their efforts.

But, that being said, they should have used their entire considerable weight and influence and STOMPED on Mayor Thugnutter and Chief Thugramsey and Philly City Council for trying to circumvent PA State Law (and succeeding on three out of the five laws they tried to pass a few months back). IMHO, they should have singled them out and made a legal EXAMPLE of them.

But being on the outside of the workings and machinations of politics though, I do assume that they (the NRA) know what they are doing 90% of the time...I guess they know who to tweak and who to stroke to get things done.

Sucks that it has to be that way, but that’s the reality of our present day situation.


13 posted on 08/23/2008 9:26:25 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Any American citizen that belongs to this AHSA is IMO a domestic enemy, supporting a socialist scam on constitutional freedoms and rights and deserves all the lack of aid and comfort I can muster........ I have control of 4 large hunting leases and will make a point of asking each hunter if they belong to either of these outfits with regards to AHSA or Sierra Kook’s..........If they are, they’ll not be allowed on my leases. If they belong to the Texas State Rifle Association , the GOA, the IDPA and or the NRA they get first dibs & discounts etc ........

Time is NOW to visit your polidiot if the are a conservative. If they are not write a snail mail letter and e-mail to your socialist rat polidiot and tell em your working night and day to get them removed from office or defeated at the polls. You have employees that support these rats FIRE em ! Time to get this done , get this fixed .....send the message loud and clear.

I am getting so sick of these Zumbo elitist’s I wanna barf ! THEY are the problem . Do NOT buy their magazines, their videos or watch their shows on the outdoor channel as long as those “for profit” and “personal agendas” stomp on the Second Amendment.........Do NOT forgive, DO NOT forget .........DON’T GET MAD.........get even with votes, your support and your dollars.

Take these seditious SOB’s to the BANK !

This AHSA is bordering on a federal mail fraud charge IMO ! Nothing less than a false front money scam. Doom on em all !

Join and give...even if it’s the five dollars you were gonna spend on a burger ! Your states rifle and pistol associations, the NRA, GOA, JPFO .............JOIN !

MAKE a difference today or there may not be too many tomorrows left !!


14 posted on 08/23/2008 11:52:49 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Bravo, brother...let it fly.

Whole-heartedly agree.


15 posted on 08/23/2008 1:14:19 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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