Posted on 08/31/2008 4:28:08 PM PDT by cgk
Here is Alan Colmes in his own words, or his fans' own words, or other people's words... He's still digging.
The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are. Nothing like epithet-hurling if you want to make your point, or if you have strong objections to what someone says or does. Furthermore, I in no way mean to suggest that her child’s Down Syndrome was in any way related to decisions she made. In fact I never mentioned Down Syndrome in the post. However, I apologize that my post was not more clear on that point. That is my fault, and I’ll take responsibility for not being more clear on that point. That being said…
Jaru summed it up on a previous thread.
Conservative hate was re-routed via conservative blogs!
Anyway, I love how everyone keeps trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.
He asked a judgement question about a 7 month pregnant woman who just had her water break GET ON A 12 HOUR FLIGHT TO GIVE BIRTH after giving a 30 MINUTE SPEECH instead of doing the SENSIBLE THING AND STAYING PUT WITH A DOCTOR.
The idea that you can’t question Sarah Palin’s judgment because she has a Down Syndrome baby is right up there with the outrage some feel the minute you question a man who was held in a prison camp for five years. Yet, the same outraged protectors of our values have no trouble questioning Obama’s judgment: a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood, his choice of a church, his very faith, and then they blamed that on the Clintons). The question was even raised as to whether he is hiding the truth of his birth certificate. In fact, hotair.com, the the site most outraged about what I posted, was one of the prime venues of the birth certificate debate, among others concerning Obama’s “judgment”. And let’s not forget the attacks on Michelle Obama and the insinuations that she doesn’t really love her country.
For the record, I think the McCain choice of Palin was caculatingly smart, in that it guarantees that a glass ceiling be broken after the coming election. I’m sure Sarah Palin is a fine person who is just very wrong on the issues and, like all of us, hasn’t always shown perfect judgment. But don’t tell me that John McCain chose the best person for the job, or that he didn’t make this choice reactively, because Hillary Clinton is not on the Democratic ticket.
For the record, here is the link to Rogers Cadenhead’s post on the issue of judgment.
Maybe Palin’s actions can be written off as Alaskan grit, since she’s a macho hunting governor who jogs in freezing temperatures and dines on moose burgers. But as a parent myself, I think the Palins were extremely fortunate that their reckless stupidity did not end in tragedy. As middle-aged parents who already had four kids, the Palins had to be completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy. One commenter on the Washington Times laid out the enormous risk she was taking:
Airlines are unequipped to handle most emergencies at 30,000 feet, particularly the kind Palin put her unborn child at markedly increased risk for. These emergencies include birthing a premature infant or uncontrolled maternal bleeding. This was her FIFTH pregnancy and delivery can happen rapidly and unexpectedly. The baby or Palin could easily have died.
The Anchorage Daily News gave the chronology of events the day Palin was in Dallas giving a speech where she began contractions, and water broke. It quotes Dr. Laurie Gregg, a Sacramnto obstetrician:
[Dr. Laurie Gregg] who is active in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said when a pregnant woman’s water breaks, she should go right to the hospital because of the risk of infection. That’s true even if the amniotic fluid simply leaks out…”To us, leaking and broken, we are talking the same thing. We are talking doctor-speak,” Gregg said.
Down Syndrome is another matter, and can sometimes be related to a mother’s age. This is a risk that older parents take, and one the Palins took consciously, and not irresponsibly.
Because of prenatal testing, most families now know beforehand, said Judy Waldron, president of the Alaska chapter of the National Down Syndrome Congress, a support and education group that delivered a parent packet to the Palins in the hospital.
“They anticipate it and they kind of relish the challenge of having a child with special needs,” said Waldron, an Anchorage teacher whose 19-year-old daughter, Lyn, has Down syndrome.
If we are going to evaluate candidates based on life decisions: what churches they attend, what religions they practice, who their preachers are, who their friends are, all of which fall under the rubrick of “judgment”, then all of this is fair game. That argument cuts many ways so, to quote my least favorite president, “Bring it on.”
As a veteran, and former CBN NCO, I can attest that said training does *not* cover poopy diapers. However, Basic Daddy Training does...
the infowarrior
I did not press it on Colmes comments but on those who posted comments.
Alan’s mom was a very heavy drinker. Give him a break.
I wonder if oreilley or hannity will give him hell for it?
Colmes surprised me a bit. He usually isn’t in to name calling and gossip. Must be desperate, LOL. I hope people really called in or e-mailed to complain about this childishness on his part.
“If we are going to evaluate candidates based on life decisions: what churches they attend, what religions they practice, who their preachers are, who their friends are, all of which fall under the rubrick (sick) of ‘judgment’, then all of this is fair game”... Alan Colmes
Channeling your guru ‘Saul Alinsky’ are we?
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-clintons-idol-saul-alinsky-and-satan
From Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals:
RULE 4: ‘Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.’ If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
Nice straw-man that in family matters conservatives must be perfect in every way.
No one is perfect, we know that.
There is a glaring difference between a momentary lapse in judgment and — deliberately — attending a racist church for 20 years.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1990117/posts
There is a fundamental difference between a momentary lapse in judgment and a long term choice.
It’s the difference between inadvertently running a red light Verses speeding on the freeway for 100 miles at 150 MPH!
Both actions can be dangerous, but one is a ‘mistake’ where the other is a WILLFUL violation.
Obama and his American hating buddies seem to fall into the ‘willful’ category, rather than the ‘I made a stupid mistake’ category.
That’s what makes thier actions particulary egregious.
STE=Q
Ha! Just some 'former terrorist' who served on committees with Obama and held Obama's first fund-raiser. Not, just 'someone in his neighborhood'. DUH! And Alan knows that!
It must be kinda of hard defending Obama by attacking a 17 year old with an engagement ring because her mother is running for Vice-President and voters love her.
I seem to remember Alan lecturing everyone on Chelsea Clinton being OFF LIMITS.
Hey, Alan, STAY OUT OF THESE WOMEN’S BEDROOMS! That’s what you have been telling us for YEARS, you hypocrite! And especially STAY OUT OF THE CHILD BIRTH!!!
Good job saving Alan’s postings!
And he obviously wasted it according to the review that was done!
I have 9 kids, and my water never broke until about 5 minutes before delivery.
However, my daughter’s water broke and then she spent 48 very boring hours in the hospital before actual labor commenced.
After giving birth 4 times, Sarah Palin is more familiar with the process than Alan Colmes, who has not given birth even once.
TYPO: (sick)=(sic)
ALTHOUGH I THINK MAYBE I WAS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!
Ironic that Libs always argue that reproductive matters should be between a woman and her doctor and here we have AC second guessing the future VP and her doctors in this matter.
“Yet, the same outraged protectors of our values have no trouble questioning Obama’s judgment: a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood”
“a nodding acquaintance” with William Ayers who helped launch Obama’s political career at his house?
You mean THAT ‘nodding’ acquaintance?
You ether:
(A)Believe your readers have a room temperature IQ.
(B)You are a dam lier and you know it!
(c) Both A and B above.
For obvious reasons choice C is the logical answer.
STE=Q
Eventually Fox will get the point that they should encourage him to stick with his day job in the Geico commercials! (he fits the caveman image so well - both in looks and mentality.)
I'll just catch Hannity on the radio or his specials!
FOX - do you care?
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