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Sarah Palin brings the Hillary Clinton era to an end
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 6 Sept 2008 | Anne Applebaum

Posted on 09/06/2008 12:36:51 PM PDT by CaraM

Whether or not Sarah Palin wins, for American women, politics will never be the same again, says Anne Applebaum.

.....The interest in her (Palin) and her life story is no fluke, either. Following the failure of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, Palin is suddenly, and flamboyantly, the most prominent female politician in the country. At age 44, she is also the most prominent representative of her generation of women – a generation which already looks set to be different, in important ways, from its predecessors.

Unlike Hillary and her contemporaries, the women of Palin’s generation are not feminists, but rather post-feminist. Born at the very tail end of the baby boom or after it had ended, the post-feminists grew up in a world in which the revolutions of the Sixties – sexual as well as political – were already taken for granted....

....More to the point, they want to know how she (Palin) does it while appearing utterly unbothered by the conflict at all – so much so that she fired the chef in the Alaska governor’s mansion, on the grounds that her children ought to learn how to make their own sandwiches. She has described switching between “breast pump and BlackBerrys” (note the use of the plural; she has two BlackBerrys) in the middle of the night, and there are photographs of her at her desk, baby Trig beside her. And all of this without looking at all frazzled, or badly groomed, or distressed. She positively radiates self-discipline and organisational skills, waving her freshly manicured nails, moving rapidly in high heels.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; era; hillary; mccainpalin; palin; palindemonium
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To: sidewinder009

Right about the Clinton foreign policy debacles. Gov. Palin is NOT a Clinton, and the President on the ticket is McCain, who does have extensive foreign policy and military knowledge and experience. Sarah Heath Palin is cut of the same cloth as Margaret Thatcher who, while she had no foreign policy experience, had the sense to have knowledgeable people advising her as well as common sense. PM Thatcher fought off socialism for a long time; but in the final analysis, it takes people not wanting socialism to hold it back. Palin fights corruption and IS good in energy, with entrenched corruption in Washington being largely what’s wrong in Washington.

I certainly wasn’t saying Bill Clinton did anything but diddle and make a mess on anything. I was just citing a Democrat example. Neither would Obama or Biden, or Hillary Clinton for that matter. What do you suggest? Lieberman? A recipe for disaster ticket; they floated the idea.


101 posted on 09/06/2008 5:26:23 PM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DO MAKE A DEMOCRAT TICKET !!!)
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To: Windflier
Ok, by your logic, not a single VP in the last 70 years has met your standard of experience.
Okay lets see, when was the last time a 72 yr. old cancer survivor was running for office??
102 posted on 09/06/2008 5:35:55 PM PDT by sidewinder009
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To: Tublecane
There was no Hillary era

Agreed, there was no Hillary Era. There were endless months when the Clinton Machine had her sucking the very air out of whatever room she found herself. She is such a sociopath.

Governor Palin enters the room and turns on the light. Suddenly, we know that we no longer have to endure the sordid conditions that the Liberals were dictating to us.

Yes, we have challenges, but the liberal solution is not the only way to fix them, and the conservative side now has a voice.

103 posted on 09/06/2008 5:39:31 PM PDT by Dustoff45 (A non-posting Freeper produces far fewer spelling errors)
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To: samtheman
So instead, let’s all just talk about a “Hillary era”, a phrase that’s every bit as empty and meaningless as Hillary’s long and pointless “career”.

The Hillary Era represents the political darkness that extended from the end of Reagan's term to the present. To be sure, the name isn't entirely accurate since Hillary wasn't to blame for GHWB's lack of vision, but now that Mrs. Palin has brought light again, the darkness is being dispelled.

104 posted on 09/06/2008 6:06:24 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Raycpa
Judgment outdoes experience every single time.

Judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgment.

105 posted on 09/06/2008 6:11:26 PM PDT by supercat
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To: CaraM

A “Husband who doesn’t appear to be entirely fully employed” and has time for snowmobile races - Todd Palin gave up his job with BP because his wife was fighting with the oil companies. He finished the 2000 mile snowmobile race with a broken arm because he needed the money, a $ 40,000 prize. He’s a good man, secure in his skin.


106 posted on 09/06/2008 6:40:28 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: sidewinder009
I would guess none

McCain emphasized her role as the commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard but reality is Palin has never personally ordered the state guard to do anything

Like I said, clueless. You might want to recall that it was an actor with no foreign policy or national security experience that faced down the Russian bear. My guess is that you object because she's a woman. So was Margaret Thatcher and Golda Meir.

NATO: No 'business as usual' with Moscow August 19, 2008

Flights by Russian Tu-95 "Bear" bombers into what the United States considers its "defensive air space" have notably increased during the past six months, U.S. officials have said. The Russian planes have been challenged by Alaska-based F-22s and F-15s and escorted in the other direction without incident, officials said.

Russian flights smack of Cold War June 26, 2008

Russian-bomber flights alarm NORAD 03/11/2008

107 posted on 09/06/2008 6:48:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: sidewinder009
Okay lets see, when was the last time a 72 yr. old cancer survivor was running for office??

Alright. Change the question. I can deal with that.

Who knew that JFK would not complete his term of office when he was elected? What foreign policy experience did LBJ have as VP at the time he was chosen as his running mate?

And for that matter, outside of having fought in WWII, what foreign policy experience did JFK himself have, when he won the nomination for president?

We know from history that neither of these men were very effective in the area of foreign policy. That was a failing of their character more than anything else. When life and death choices were before them, they blanched, and either made choices which only barely succeeded, or failed miserably.

Harry Truman, on the other hand, did much better than those two successors because he was made of different stuff. Even he didn't choose right on every foreign policy decision. Eastern Europe suffered under the communist grip until nearly the end of the century because Harry got Stalin wrong. Yet he was able to make the correct choice about using the A-bomb. I ask you, what foreign policy experience did Harry Truman have, prior to becoming president?

The answer to all these questions, is that these men were not elected for their foreign policy experience, which quite frankly, outside of the post of Secretary of State, is pretty hard to come by for any politician.

The whole "but what about her foreign policy experience?" question is a straw man argument, designed to throw the focus off our VP candidate's very real qualifications.

The more important questions to be asking, are whether the candidates have proven track records of good management under pressure, and of making correct and beneficial decisions for their constituents. Have they demonstrated character and honesty in their public service and private industry careers? These are far better indicators of what they'll do and how they'll perform as leaders.

By every objective measure, Gov. Sarah Palin passes those tests with stellar grades. You and every other fence-sitting Republican ought to be thanking your lucky stars that we've been blessed with such an incredible leader.

108 posted on 09/06/2008 6:48:22 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; sidewinder009
You and every other fence-sitting Republican

How do you know he's a Republican? He a trash talking noob.

109 posted on 09/06/2008 6:57:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Windflier

Great points.


110 posted on 09/06/2008 7:02:20 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: sidewinder009
“... but reality is Palin has never personally ordered the state guard to do anything.”

Wrong! She recently order the Alaska guard to help with the huricane Gustov.

I think you wandered onto the wrong forum.

111 posted on 09/06/2008 7:14:56 PM PDT by Balata (NObama-NObiden)
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To: BenLurkin
A thought only a bucket of water would bring the Hillary erea to an ened.

That bucket of water had a name, and that name was Sarah Palin. Hillary, and the ClintonCo. Crime Cartel, are sooooo '90's now...

the infowarrior

112 posted on 09/06/2008 7:20:15 PM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: HAL9000
The emergence of Sarah Palin means that Hillary’s hopes for running again in 2012 are alive and well.

She may have hopes, but those hopes are likely to be dashed on the hard rocks of reality in '12. I expect her to run, but, I likewise expect her to do about as well as John Edwards did this year. Clinton is the 20th century, and Palin is the 21st. The "old guard" *will* give way to the new "vanguard" whether they like it, or not...

the infowarrior

113 posted on 09/06/2008 7:26:10 PM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: DJ MacWoW
How do you know he's a Republican? He a trash talking noob.

Read through his posts on the thread, and I think you'll see it's a fair assumption.

I wouldn't call it "trash talking". It sounds more like severely uninformed worry on his part, or poor analysis due to, again, lack of data.

Hard to see how any person reading FR could be so uninformed, but that's the only sense I can make from those posts.

114 posted on 09/06/2008 8:37:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CaraM
Dear Lady, I hope you are right on that. But the word is that Hill will campaign for Obama in Florida next week.

She has to at least keep her big toe in the dirty water.

115 posted on 09/06/2008 9:10:15 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (http://www.theobamafile.com/))
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To: smith288
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116 posted on 09/06/2008 9:11:32 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (http://www.theobamafile.com/))
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To: Balata; sidewinder009
Balata is right about that.

Palin has command rank in the A.N.G.

Because Alaska borders with Russia, the ANG has a very big role to play in National Defense,with budget and training commensurate with that duty. So Palin's role as a commander is far more comprehensive that that of say, the governor of Iowa.She has to be in the loop for security briefing on Russian air, sea and land military activity, Sat Intel, and the like.And she has to make sure that the ANG is fully staffed and that recruitment is up to par, and that the force is ready to hold off the Russians long enough for a federal military response.

That is a lot more responsibility than Obama or Biden have ever had on their shoulders.

See this link:

Alaska National Guard Commander Lauds Sarah Palin's Performance as Commander in Chief

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2076405/posts

Palin has command military rank, and she has the duty.

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117 posted on 09/06/2008 9:27:48 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (http://www.theobamafile.com/))
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To: Balata

LOL Joe Biden is a stooge

Funny how NOBODY mentions his speech.

Ratings numbers for McCain,Palin and Obama’s speech have all been compared.

Wonder what old Joe got? hehe


118 posted on 09/06/2008 9:31:32 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Indeed! Joe was Axelrod's pick to add gravitas in foreign policy issues but all he did was prove the democrap ticket to be far left not merely leftist.
119 posted on 09/06/2008 9:36:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Candor7

Thanks, Candor7.

The MSM has no clue about the guard or how it works.


120 posted on 09/06/2008 9:45:18 PM PDT by Balata (NObama-NObiden)
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