Sarah Palin brings the Hillary Clinton era to an end

Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 6 Sept 2008 | Anne Applebaum

[DJ MacWoW]

but seriously i got better things to do than be a “agent provocateur for the left

Then quit using their talking points and think for yourself.

[sidewinder009]

Like i said, i won’t vote in this election.

[SamAdams76]

But what happens if McCain dies and palin becomes president?

She'll be fine. You have overestimated the importance of foreign policy "experience." What matters most in a leadership role are the people you surround yourself with. No president makes a major foreign policy decision without consulting the opinions of their experts, including national security advisor, joint chiefs of staff, etc.

Obama is dangerous to this country not solely because he is an imbecile, but because of the people he will surely surround himself with. I feel confident that Sarah will choose the people she surrounds herself with wisely.

[DJ MacWoW]

Like i said, i won’t vote in this election.

Then Obama would win by default. Thank God most people are smarter than that.

[Windflier]

You are entitled to your assumptions!! but seriously i got better things to do than be a “agent provocateur for the left”

I never accused you of actually being an agent provocateur of the left. I just said that you're starting to sound like one.

I also asked you to prove to me that you're not an Obama supporter, but you're choosing to run off instead, because you've "got better things to do".

Uh huh...

[sidewinder009]

What matters most in a leadership role are the people you surround yourself with.
Choosing smart advisers alone won't do the job.You also need to know something abt. foreign affairs/national security to make a good decision.What if there's a disagreement among the advisers on the best course forward?? what's she gonna do then??

[eyedigress]

I can safely say she is aware of the capabilities of the defense in AK and it is more impressive than most states.

[eyedigress]

She will call Hillary of course. I hear she is up at all hours.

[sidewinder009]

think for yourself
Actually i am.When Mccain said obama is too inexperienced and is a risky choice for president,i actually believed him.Then he goes ahead and picks palin who is even more inexperienced than obama ! What happened to all that talk of country first ?? He's 72, dying and even then he goes on to pick palin as his running mate knowing fully well that she isn't the right pick! I understand why he wouldn't pick bolton...But why would you go elect someone with hardly two yrs. executive experience and no foreign policy or national security experience?? Nor is she an expert on the economy. there were a lot more qualified republican governors he could have picked as his running mate. But no.He would go for this girl----- Oh! hillary's supporters are bitter!!And wait a minute i still don't have support of the social conservatives.So let me pick a women who also happens to be a conservative!
Those who have been repeatedly suggesting that i go take a look at her records....well.... here's a news flash for you guys...i did check her out and i am hardly impressed.The only thing i like abt. her is her willingness to tackle corruption and the fact that she reduced taxes.But then considering our state of economy, i won't be surprised if our taxes go up no matter who gets elected.Also she comes off as too stubborn------ now that can be a good thing or a bad thing(usually more bad than good)
The real reason many of you are supporting her is because she's a social conservative.It's not because of her executive experience or because alaska is close to russia or because she heads the alaskan air national guards.Lets get real here people--- you are gonna vote for her simply because she's a social concervative.
Well i don't care abt. social issues.Infact i am pro-choice and opposed to the teaching of intelligent design in public schools and don't believe earth is only 5000 yrs. old. Infact the only thing i have in common with social conservatives is i am opposed to gay rights and believe in harsher punishment for criminals incl. death penalty. The reason i vote for republicans is because they are strong on national security and foreign policy. I am prepared to overlook the fact that a person is a social conservative if he's strong on foreign polciy or national security or atleast have a good team to aid and advice him.that's why i voted for president bush and would still vote for him if he could run for office.
To be honest McCain wasn't my first choice. This guy was a liberal not long ago.He was once opposed to tax cuts,drilling oil and was opposed to torture.His involvement in the immigration reforms bill was another cause for concern.Now add palin to the list of concerns
So why should i vote for this ticket?McCain keeps saying he's the guy for change....But i don't want change.I want the status quo to continue.Sure we aren't doing well economically but that's hardly gonna change (atleast in the short term) no matter who gets elected.....economy will prolly get worse before it gets better.If he gets elected what would his policy be on issues like immigration? Will america have an open border?? will he reach across the isle , work with the democrats as he frequently does to make sure all the illegals in this country get citizenship??Who will be calling the shots here---on issues ranging from immigration to abortion??Will she influence him to be tougher on abortion or will he ignore the republicans and side with the dems on issues like immigration? And what happens if he dies?How would palin handle important issues ranging from national security to abortion??There are simply too many unkowns involved here!I don't know which way he'll go---right ,left,center?Infact this guy has flip-flopped so much in the not too distant past that i no longer know where he stands on issues.In 2000 he ran as a liberal for the primaries and didn't get elected.So he changes tactics and runs as a reluctant conservative now and wins the nomination.Once he got that nomination,he again changes color and reinvents himself as a moderate republican who will work across party lines to bring change.So what kinda president he will be(for the time he lasts) is anybody's guess!!
Despite all these short comings,i still wanted to vote for him for the sole reason that he's experienced(in FP/NAT SEC).And that i believe is far more important in these troubled times than his flip-flops, his position on immigration,his tendency to side with the democrats on important issues,etc,etc.!But then his choice of VP has sadly nullified the only reason i would ever consider voting for him!In this case, there are simply too many known unknowns, and unknown unknowns and i don't like it
Now that i made my point you guys are free to call me “agent provocateur for the left" In fact why stop at that? Go ahead and call me "Michael moore"

[sidewinder009]

I hear she is up at all hours.
So is bill.especially during late hours.So she may not need hillary after all.

[DJ MacWoW]

You also need to know something abt. foreign affairs/national security to make a good decision.

BS! Your problem is that she's a woman OR you are a lefty troll. She's running for VICE President, not President. My guess is that you're a troll. Obama has NO executive experience and Gov Palin does. Obama is running for PRESIDENT and he's as clueless as all lefty's.

[DJ MacWoW]

Then he goes ahead and picks palin who is even more inexperienced than obama !

Another leftist talking point. She is not less experienced.

He's 72, dying

Another leftist talking point. He's not dying.

knowing fully well that she isn't the right pick!

A lot of [people disagree with you.

...But why would you go elect someone with hardly two yrs. executive experience and no foreign policy or national security experience??

Another lefty talking point. She was mayor for 8 years and governor for 2. That's executive experience. And here's your boy Obama running around saying that running for President for 2 years gives him executive experience. BS. AND you were already shown that Russian is trying to provoke the US by invading Alaskas airspace. You've ignored the facts in order to keep up the left's mantra.

But no He would go for this girl

Truly pathetic. Your real problem is that she's not a man.

you are gonna vote for her simply because she's a social concervative.

Well DUH! She believes in smaller government, less taxes, drill here, drill now...............she's a CONSERVATIVE.

How would palin handle important issues ranging from national security to abortion??There are simply too many unkowns involved here!

SHE'S RUNNING FOR VICE PRESIDENT NOT PRESIDENT! Obama is for infanticide. If the abortion didn't kill the baby, let it lay there and die. Gov Palin is against abortion and if you had a single clue you would know that Roe v Wade could be struck down tomorrow and it would only become a state issue and not outlawed.

Naw. I won't call you Michael Moore. I'll just tell you YOU'RE CLUELESS.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

So let me pick a women who also happens to be a conservative! Lets get real here people--- you are gonna vote for her simply because she's a social concervative.

No shiite, Sherlock... This is "conservative" forum, in case you didn't see the mission statement when you signed up...

[DJ MacWoW]

Well he just signed up and he’s busy posting threads so we’ll quit calling him a troll. I’m not sure what he is besides clueless. He sure has the Gov Palin talking points down pat.