Posted on 09/10/2008 12:45:45 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee
Amazing...Check this out on breitbart TV. My apologies in advance if this is already in circulation here. Sears apparently has a deal in the works to launch a line of clothing with the "Big Red One" patch on it. Amazingly stupid,not to mention a slap in the face to all who served with that patch on their uniform. Here's the link..... http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=171143
My kid wants to join, but until he does, and survives boot camp, he won’t be wearing the hat, or the insignia. This is one of those times when you don’t want to sell what is so important. We all got disgusted with Obamination’s “seal” on the podium, didn’t we?
When the First ID in Korea? The First Cav was, but First ID was in Germany until 1955.
From the very inception of that unit patch, it was worn so. This was by the desire of Mrs Patton, who actually designed a uniform for tankers, back in the day. The uniform was not adopted, but the placement of the unit insignia for the 2d Armored Division was, and so remains to this day...
the infowarrior
From the very inception of that unit patch, it was worn so. This was by the desire of Mrs Patton, who actually designed a uniform for tankers, back in the day. The uniform was not adopted, but the placement of the unit insignia for the 2d Armored Division was, and so remains to this day...
the infowarrior
When I was in military school in 1964, cadet NCOs were still wearing WWII style corporal’s and sergeant’s chevrons.
We got a new commandant, General Smoller (Yes, he was a real general), and when he saw those chevrons he went ballistic.
Something about heroism, sacrifice, brotherhood, and death on the battlefield. You know, those things the libtards hold in such contempt.
By sundown, there wasn’t a set of those chevrons to be seen.
Ennyhoo, that’s how I was brought up. Kids would bring their father’s military insignia and patches to show and tell, but they wouldn’t pin them on. I would sooner nail Mr. Happy to a burning stump than don an insignia or award to which I was not entitled.
This Sears crap is gonna torque my jaw down hard.
I agree - but did you watch the video and see what they're talking about?
They're not selling uniform parts, or patches. They're selling the kind of unit insignia t-shirt you can buy in the PX.
This isn't exactly it, but it's similar to the one shown in the video.
LOL
I wear a USMC seatshirt
FOlks ask if I’m a Marine - I tell them no, I’m retired USAF — my son is a Marine, I just support the team....
DOOH!
WWII
That’s what I get for posting so late at night.
“This isn’t exactly it, but it’s similar to the one shown in the video.”
I guess something like that might be okay, since it’s clearly not the real McCoy, but I’m still uncomfortable.
The illustration I saw earlier looked like a regulation shoulder insignia.
I think the use of a logo, on a t-shirt for example, is great. No one would think this is a case of “stolen valor”.
I would be against the use of the patch on military style clothing though.
I’m ambivalent but i think those who served with BRO should have the word.
that sounds more congragulatory and admiring than demeaning...
anyone can go to a surplus story and get an airborne eagle t-shirt
i confess my little boys idolize this stuff
what they really want is a trident t-shirt
(cause they know one who posts here coincidentally)
OK..I can see both sides of this issue. I saw the video and I must admit I reacted to it immediately (call me a knee-jerk,but that choked-up vet had a point!) If Sears supports the troops,fine..good on ‘em.I hope it’s true. I would STILL have a problem with seeing a replica of that patch on a t-shirt worn by some punkassed America-bashing anarchist protesting the war and siding with America’s enemies. I guess that’s how I see it. On the other hand,yes, I agree it is definitely a refreshing change from the Che Guevara Couture we’ve been subjected to. I am just suspect of anything that I think is disrespectful of those who serve and have served. Sign of the times,I guess.
I agree with you...and hope that both sides can come to some compromise. It is a fact that Sears does maintain the policy of holding a job position for a military soldier serving his tour of duty and also contributes to the military charities. This may have been an attempt by Sears to show their soliarity in opposing the Milwaukee department store selling Chinese uniforms, medals and all....
That’s good...I applaud Sears in their efforts to support the troops. I was not aware of that. Thanks for the info.
Getting military culture less separate from civilian culture, and vice versa, is a good thing.
What a fantastic division! Thanks very much for your and your Dad’s service with such a distinguished unit.
Anyone who wears the patch for a unit that they didn’t serve in, or have a close relative that did, is a sissy. Want the patch? Do the time.
Offensive? No. Tacky? Definately.
For purity of form, I do like The Big Red 1.
And for conveyance of intent “Hell on Wheels” is hard to beat.
But being from Oklahoma I do have a soft spot for the two emblems
for The 45th Infantry Division.
The “Thunderbird” patch is cool, and there’s lots of historical irony
to the Native-American “Swastika” patch that proceeded it.
http://www.45thdivisionmuseum.com/
From Swastika to Thunderbird
http://www.45thdivisionmuseum.com/History/SwastikaToThunderbird.html
In the early 1990s I had to calm the nerves of a graduate student
at Oklahoma State U. in Stillwater OK.
He was from north of the Mason-Dixon line and sort of freaked when
he saw what he presumed was a Nazi swastika in the external brickwork
of a chimney of the next-door home.
I had to get him to look at the age of the house (1920s?) and showed
him on line that it was a Native American symbol that had graced the
soldiers of part of the US Army. Before WWII of course.
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