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The call for “green” ammunition
The Black Hills Pioneer ^ | September 11, 2008 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 09/12/2008 6:34:07 PM PDT by neverdem

It's been 17 years since the federal government banned the use of lead shot in shells used to hunt waterfowl. Back in 1991 the number of ducks and geese turning up dead from lead poisoning was on the increase, not so much as a result of being hit by lead pellets but as a result of ingesting pellets as they bottom fed in ponds and marshes. Swans and other non-game bottom feeders were also impacted. Hunters initially complained about the poor performance of non-toxic steel shot compared to lead, but it wasn't long before a number of non-toxic alternatives to ordinary steel appeared. Bismuth, Hevi-Shot, various tungsten alloys and others offered hunters a more effective, but also more costly, alternative to steel shot.

Steel shot has improved over the years and loads such as Kent Fast Steel, Federal's Black Cloud and Winchester's Xpert shotshells are bringing more waterfowlers back into the steel-shot fold with improved velocities, range and performance. Many states now also require steel shot for hunting any kind of game bird in certain kinds of wildlife management areas. Hunters adapted once again and ammunition makers responded with non-toxic loads designed for taking everything from pheasants and grouse to doves. But now the quest for environment-friendly “green” ammunition is taking a new turn. Several states are considering an outright ban on all lead ammunition.

California led the charge on this issue when a rare California condor turned up dead from lead poisoning. Condors are large vultures and therefore primarily scavengers. Apparently the condor had fed on the meat of an animal or animals that had been shot with lead bullets and ingested lead bullet fragments. Even big-game hunters in California must now use lead-free bullets, and several other states may soon make similar rules.

Lead has been used in bullets for hundreds of years. It is a cheap and effective substance when it comes to manufacture and performance, but it is a toxic heavy metal. From a health standpoint it makes sense to find alternatives to lead, but there may also be political motivations I'll get to in a moment.

There are alternatives to lead bullets. Cor-Bon in Sturgis, Remington and other handgun bullet makers offer lead-free frangible ammunition for defense and law enforcement applications. Barnes has offered copper bullets for big game for some time and its bullets perform very well. Winchester's new E-tip rifle bullets were used by friends of mine on elk hunts last season will good results in most cases. Other companies are riding the “green wave” of innovation and working up new non-toxic loads for handgun and rifle shooters in their research and development departments even now.

Some sportsmen have speculated about political motivations concerning the sudden push for “safer bullets.” With gun control on the ropes in the judicial arena following this year's Supreme Court ruling on the 2nd Amendment, some gun control groups are looking for ways to make acquiring ammunition more difficult. Ammunition, they argue, is not protected by the 2nd Amendment. Copper is the main lead alternative in rifle bullets right now, and copper costs a whole lot more than lead. Hunters used to paying $15 for a box of 20 cartridges with lead bullets will easily pay two or three times that amount for copper equivalents.

The non-toxic push could also, in theory, make possession of lead ammunition illegal. It's not uncommon for reloaders who make their own cartridges to have hundreds of bullets bought in bulk lying around for future loading. If the nation goes entirely lead-free, reloaders could conceivably have to destroy stockpiles of unused ammunition or shoot it all up before any laws take effect. I know some in the industry who look at lead-bullet bans as a backdoor way of shutting down those who make their own ammo by making components harder to get and prohibitively expensive.

Regardless of motivations, the trend is clearly toward lead-free ammo in the political arena. Ultimately, the matter will likely be decided either by the courts, state game management agencies or voters.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ammunition; banglist; bigbrother; conspiracy; environment; govwatch; greenammo; secondamendment
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http://www.gunlawnews.org/FOPA-86.html

Check what C. Rangel did.

H. R. 1036 This Act may be cited as the `Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act'.

(2) To preserve a citizen's access to a supply of firearms and ammunition for all lawful purposes, including hunting, self-defense, collecting, and competitive or recreational shooting.

1 posted on 09/12/2008 6:34:07 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I suggest loading military ammo with Twinkies ... sugar them to death .....


2 posted on 09/12/2008 6:36:01 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Warning - Hurricane Sarah Is Coming")
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To: neverdem

Recycle spent nuclear fuel rods into bullets


3 posted on 09/12/2008 6:37:29 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: neverdem

Frangibile ammunition was green 40 years ago.


4 posted on 09/12/2008 6:37:34 PM PDT by csmusaret (McCain and Obama represent the evil of two lessers.)
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To: SkyDancer

Hardened Chinese Cat Food would work as well and is cheaper. :))


5 posted on 09/12/2008 6:40:24 PM PDT by WildcatClan (The world is full of fatheads; so I invented Diet Shampoo)
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To: neverdem
There are worse predicaments than having to rid yourself of hundreds of rounds of shot gun shells . That is how I was introduced to skeet . They are not much for eating but the you are sure to get some shooting .
6 posted on 09/12/2008 6:42:22 PM PDT by kbennkc (What passes for optimism is most often an intellectual error)
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To: neverdem

Good thing I’ve got over a ton of wheel weights, and other lead items for the time when I won’t be able to buy it anymore.


7 posted on 09/12/2008 6:44:19 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: neverdem
Yea, lighter non deforming shot caused more injuries and more game got away injured causing lingering death from ineffective shot.
8 posted on 09/12/2008 7:02:11 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: SkyDancer

two words...

pork bullets


9 posted on 09/12/2008 7:13:42 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Palin/Cleese '12)
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To: SkyDancer

two words...

pork bullets


10 posted on 09/12/2008 7:13:57 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Palin/Cleese '12)
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To: neverdem

Steel shot has to be moving faster than lead to achieve the same momentum and you need more weight to get the same pellet count; particularly if you try to achieve that by using 3.5” shells moving at 1450 - 1550 fps, the recoil can be severe. Anybody who’d try to shoot that in a solid lockup gun is a masochist; you want every edge you can get, a semiauto gun and I’d also recommend one of those Pattern Master chokes which is both ported and non-constrictive. The gun I’d recommend would be that Beretta Xtrema, but there are others which would work.


11 posted on 09/12/2008 7:14:51 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: stefanbatory

of course those would only work on the battlefield...and against a specific enemy...


12 posted on 09/12/2008 7:15:28 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Palin/Cleese '12)
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To: mountainlion

Even when there appears to be a reason behind these new regulations, they are still written by people who want to criminalize behavior. It all about people control.


13 posted on 09/12/2008 7:15:41 PM PDT by umgud
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To: neverdem

It is amazing what damage a pair of ordinary glass marbles fired from each barrel of a 10 gage muzzle loading shotgun can do...at least to a block of 6X6 hard fir at 50 yards.

And the marbles weren’t broken when we split them out of the wood, either.

OTOH, I’ll keep my 150 gr .30 Spitzers for deer.


14 posted on 09/12/2008 7:21:26 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: mountainlion
This is just a backdoor way to get rid of guns. Lead oxides and become inert, so the idea that it is posing animals is a lie.
15 posted on 09/12/2008 7:24:33 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: neverdem

How about depleted uranium? Density 20 vs lead 15 grams/cc.


16 posted on 09/12/2008 7:38:47 PM PDT by dr huer
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To: neverdem
BARNES. Unleaded. Unfailing. Unbeatable.


17 posted on 09/12/2008 7:41:29 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: WildcatClan
Hardened Chinese Cat Food would work as well and is cheaper.

But it is more toxic than lead shot.

18 posted on 09/12/2008 7:45:50 PM PDT by magslinger (A politician who thinks he is above the law is actually beneath contempt.)
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To: neverdem
It's not uncommon for reloaders who make their own cartridges to have hundreds of bullets bought in bulk lying around for future loading.

Hundreds? Yeah right. Stop it. You're killing me.

I've got around 5,000 .45 bullets, lead, moly and FMJ right now and I'm feeling somewhat understocked.

19 posted on 09/12/2008 7:53:41 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It is a sort of, Depleted Uranium is used in anti-armor it is more dense then what it is going to hit. The A-10 Warthog, the Apache Heli, the cannons are Depleted Uranium rounds.

Goto Metal Storm . com (hehe) and take a look at no powder weapons.


20 posted on 09/12/2008 8:03:32 PM PDT by Michael121 (An old soldier knows the truth. Only a Dead Soldier knows peace.)
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