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Dukakis: McCain Using Same Race Tactics As Willie Horton Ad (Obama Presidency: 4 Yrs Of Race-Baiting
Politickerma ^ | 9/22/2008 | Jeremy P. Jacobs

Posted on 09/24/2008 4:43:33 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Former Gov. Michael Dukakis said Monday that John McCain's presidential campaign is using the same race-based tactics that were used against him in the 1988 presidential run...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; ads; dukakis; election; electionads; electionpresident; elections; mccain; mccainpalin; nobama08; obama; obamatruthfile; paterson; patterson; racebaiting; racism; sebelius; williehorton
I am so sick of Democrats engaing in race-baiting.

Obama: they're going to say "Did I mention he's black?"

Obama: they're going to say he doesn't look like those men on our paper currency, dollar bills, etc.

Democrats Sebelius, Obama, Patterson and so on. More and more and more race-baiting from them.

If Obama is elected president and proposes something, and it is opposed on based upon the issues, you can rest assured that Obama and his supporters/surrogates will roll out the race-baiting. They will say "Racism rears its ugly head again!"

Some say that if Obama isn't elected that there will be cries of racism. But, if someone doesn't want to vote for Obama - based upon the issues - they shouldn't let themselves be brow-beaten into voting for Obama. There could be (if possible) ten Obama administrations in a row, and Dems would still say "there is still work to be done on the issue of race. They would still use race-baiting tactics.

If Obama wins and runs again in 2012, Dems (and Obama)will use race-baiting yet again.

1 posted on 09/24/2008 4:43:34 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: All

What say you?


2 posted on 09/24/2008 4:44:15 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

They did this crap in the primary too. Their entire candidacy has been race-baiting.


3 posted on 09/24/2008 4:45:44 PM PDT by nobamanada
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To: nobamanada

Yep. Bill Clinton himself said - during and after the primaries - that Obama played the race card on him.


4 posted on 09/24/2008 4:47:35 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

And how’d that election turn out, Mike?


5 posted on 09/24/2008 4:48:42 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The democrats are all on the same page this year, the race baiting motif is one of their main points of attack this year.

The idea is to try and secure the democrat base by shaming those who are thinking of defecting as well as provide cover when and if they lose.


6 posted on 09/24/2008 4:50:31 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

He was right, too. Remember Jesse Jackson Jr. (Obama surrogate) going on TV wailing “Hillary didn’t cry during Katrina”...


7 posted on 09/24/2008 4:51:16 PM PDT by nobamanada
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Dukakis sees what he wants to see. I remember people saying the racial overtones were “obvious” in the celebrity adds because Obama was featured standing beneath “phallic symbols,” which visually reinforced the racial stereotype of black verility. Face facts, Dukakis. You supported weekend furlows for convicts. It wouldn’t have mattered if Willie Horton was a white guy who raped a white woman; raping alone is a bad thing.


8 posted on 09/24/2008 4:53:46 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: I_Like_Spam

“The democrats are all on the same page this year, the race baiting motif is one of their main points of attack this year. The idea is to try and secure the democrat base by shaming those who are thinking of defecting as well as provide cover when and if they lose.”

Very high risk strategy likely to really PO a bunch of folks who know in their hearts that they are not ‘racists’ and calling them that will only turn them against ‘The Chosen One’.

I imagine a lot of folks will remember all those Affirmative Action classes they’ve been forced to take where they were hammered with that the slightest criticism of a minority was ‘racist’. I expect many will use this as an opportunity to get a little payback.


9 posted on 09/24/2008 4:54:58 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (What's more important? Your principles or supporting the troops? Vote McCain!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If I remember correctly I think gore initially brought up willie horton first in the 88 primary


10 posted on 09/24/2008 4:55:32 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The thing is, the Willie Horton story was a real indictment of Dukakis. Perhaps the ad was used in a racial way on some venues but show it to a blind man and he’d realize Dukakis screwed up badly when it came to giving weekend passes to inmates serving life sentences.


11 posted on 09/24/2008 4:57:57 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (don't worry, they only want to take water out of the other guy's side of the bucket.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Mike’s tanker helmet is still stuck on too tight!


12 posted on 09/24/2008 5:01:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

Not a surprise that TWENTY years later we are still hearing about this. I have yet to hear Dukakis or anyone else say the ad was factually wrong in any way. All they say is it was a sleazy, racist move. Never mind the facts. It’s as if they are offended the Republicans dared to tell the truth. Their problem with Horton is that he cost Dukakis the election. I think they could not care less that he killed a 17 year old kid, then later brutally assaulted that couple in MD. If you ask me, the ad didn’t go far enough and Dukakis’s record on crime could have been exploited more.

They still blame the Bush ‘88 campaign too though technically I think it was Floyd Brown’s outfit that paid for and produced the ad.

Btw, most of my old “pings” from prior to the technical glitch today are gone. Anyone know if those will be accessible again?


13 posted on 09/24/2008 5:02:01 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Shut up Big head Beetle Baily!


14 posted on 09/24/2008 5:08:30 PM PDT by CommieCutter (THE BIAS OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS FINALLY HIT THE MAINSTREAM!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Go back under your rock Dukakis


15 posted on 09/24/2008 5:16:47 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
Yeah, it was Gore that brought up Willie Horton, during the primary.

But I see Dukakis's point here. I mean, the McCain ad was obviously playing on the deeply rooted racial fears that Americans have, and the stereotypes that they hold, about African-American financiers. /sarcasm

16 posted on 09/24/2008 5:20:51 PM PDT by kalt
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Dukakis, you scumbag, YOUR party rival AlBore brought up Willie Horton in the primary ads..... and it was a perfectly legitimate issue because YOU, while Governor, had an abominable policy of allowing the most violent offenders with LIFE sentences out of jail on “weekend furlough”.....

YOU, Michael Dukakis, are a naive liberal tool who never should have been elected dogcatcher. Willie Horton went on to torture, rape and murder innocent people because YOU, Michael Dukakis, chose to let that vile thug out of his life sentence.

It was a perfectly legitimate issue and no rational person would vote for a dim-witted liberal tool like Michael Dukakis..... or the Obamanation.


17 posted on 09/24/2008 5:24:40 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMAGATE: Iraqi Foreign Minister Says Obama Tried to Derail Agreement on Troop Withdrawals!!!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Bill is right and they did and you can tell he has little time for Obama.Don't they see what a turn off this is to people.I just don't get it.
18 posted on 09/24/2008 5:30:03 PM PDT by fatima (Put your lipstick on girls and go vote.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You want to know why they are using this tactic? (as if you couldn’t guess on your own! ;-) )

Obama talked about it himself in his autobiography when speaking of Harold Washington’s campaign for mayor of Chicago (a campaign I’m actually old enough to remember! LOL).

Anyway, Obama said the following;

“Black Politicians less gifted than Harold discovered what white politicians had known for a long time: that race-baiting could make up for a host of limitations.”

Is it any surprise that he would use this same tactic against the “whites” now? He KNOWS that with a little modification the racism that pervaded our society for a long time before the 60s can be turned against the whites by race-baiting THEM! (What a great plan for a post-racial candidate pledging “unity” /sarcasm)

If you’d like to hear more about Obama’s racist views, and the views that shaped his understanding of “white people” (which he gleans from a white racist’s book which he obviously assumes represents ALL white people, and their “demons”) then you may be interested in viewing this video which features Obama reciting his own words via the audio book:

Barack Obama the Racist: In His Own Words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6zM5ldO35A


19 posted on 09/24/2008 5:32:41 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: TNCMAXQ
"I think they could not care less that he killed a 17 year old kid, then later brutally assaulted that couple in MD. If you ask me, the ad didn’t go far enough and Dukakis’s record on crime could have been exploited more."
 
Read this.    

Sicari, 28, raped a 10-year-old Cambridge boy in a parking garage in September 1997, three weeks before his brother, Salvatore Sicari, helped Charles Jaynes kidnap, rape and murder the boy’s 10-year-old friend, Jeffrey Curley. Both children were lured to their fates with the promise of a bicycle.

 
Nothing much has changed here in Massachusetts since jerkoff Dukakis left office.
 
 

20 posted on 09/24/2008 5:32:59 PM PDT by Radix (If Alaska were to secede from the Union it would probably become a power player in OPEC)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Dukakis proving once again that he is a stupid and we knew him to be...

Someone should remind Dukakis that the “Willie Horton” was first used against him by Al Gore....
He couldn't have possibly forgotten that.....could he?
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Horton in the 1988 presidential campaign

The first person to mention the Massachusetts furlough program in the 1988 presidential campaign was Al Gore. During a debate at the Felt Forum sponsored by the New York Daily News, Gore took issue with the furlough program. However, he did not specifically mention the Horton incident or even mention Horton's name, instead asking a general question about the Massachusetts furlough program.[6]

Republicans would pick up the Horton issue after Dukakis clinched the nomination. In June 1988, Republican candidate George H.W. Bush seized on the Horton case, bringing it up repeatedly in campaign speeches.[6] Bush's campaign manager, Lee Atwater, predicted that “by the time this election is over, Willie Horton will be a household name.”[6][7] Media consultant Roger Ailes remarked “the only question is whether we depict Willie Horton with a knife in his hand or without it.”[8]
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The felon furlough program was a typically hair-brained idea from the beginning and Dukakis deserved to have Willie hung around his neck like a dead and stinking Albatross.

21 posted on 09/24/2008 5:42:15 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist


22 posted on 09/24/2008 5:46:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - McCain/Palin'08 = http://www.johnmccain.com/)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If Michael Dukakis spent half as much of his time lamenting the pain caused to Willie Horton’s victims due to the assinine, irresponsible, moronic furlough policy that he himself supported as he did to feeling sorry for himself for the outrage that someone would actually bring it up as a campaign issue, then... well, I guess he wouldn’t be Michael Dukakis...


23 posted on 09/24/2008 5:56:20 PM PDT by MeanFreePath
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Wonder if he still has that tank to play in.....


24 posted on 09/24/2008 6:05:17 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is this Michael “Landside” Dukakis?


25 posted on 09/24/2008 6:06:53 PM PDT by Yankee
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t care what they call me, I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A LIBERAL.


26 posted on 09/24/2008 6:10:33 PM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
If I remember correctly I think gore initially brought up willie horton first in the 88 primary

You remember correctly, though Gore mentioned the Massachusetts furlough program and not Horton by name.

27 posted on 09/24/2008 6:31:19 PM PDT by kaspergutman
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Asked if he considered the ad to be in the same vein as the infamous ‘Willie Horton' ad ad run by a third party group in support of George H.W. Bush in the 1988 presidential campaign...just to set the record straight, since I'm sure Dukakis won't mention it himself: the Horton issue was first raised against him in the primaries by a fellow named Al Gore.......
28 posted on 09/24/2008 7:27:37 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Enchante

“Willie Horton went on to torture, rape and murder innocent people because YOU, Michael Dukakis, chose to let that vile thug out of his life sentence.”

I find it interesting that, until this thread, I did not know that Willie Horton was black. I guess I should have paid more attention at the time. Or maybe not.

Torture, rape and murder is wrong no matter who does it.


29 posted on 09/24/2008 8:06:45 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom

Well it never should have been a racial issue but the Demagogues found it convenient to make it so. The issue was an abomination of a POLICY that allowed such brutal thugs out for weekends of “recreation” which of course could turn to horror at any time. I was living among the Massholes at the time — I well remember how Dukakis people were trying to claim it was the latest and greatest in “inmate management” i.e., supposedly such hard-core inmates would be easier to “manage” if they had the hope of getting out on weekend furloughs. Yeah, sure, and innocent citizens would pay the horrible price for whatever happened ala Willie Horton, just so that liberal “corrections” officials could say they were keeping up on the latest academic trend.


30 posted on 09/25/2008 3:02:25 PM PDT by Enchante (America: can you seriously believe that Obama & Biden know how to run our economy?)
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To: Enchante

“The issue was an abomination of a POLICY that allowed such brutal thugs out for weekends of “recreation” which of course could turn to horror at any time.”

You and I are in complete agreement here. The Policy stunk to high heaven. There was no reason for this policy other than to experiment, which is the worst thing to be done to the honest citizens by way of letting criminals out.


31 posted on 09/25/2008 6:35:06 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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