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1 posted on 09/25/2008 7:41:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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A breathtaking assessment if I do say so, Jim...


2 posted on 09/25/2008 7:43:06 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Great analysis in a nutshell, Jim. Do you have a longer version of this that Americans for Limited Government can send out to the media nationwide in our Daily Editorialist and Broadcast NewsReal feeds?


3 posted on 09/25/2008 7:44:48 PM PDT by hampdenkid
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The earmark for ACORN is just a small indicator of how much of a screwing they’re going to give the taxpayers.


4 posted on 09/25/2008 7:44:51 PM PDT by antceecee (McCain ~ Palin '08!!!!! May God have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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Hey I trust them..... See this big brown stain on my boot.....


5 posted on 09/25/2008 7:45:12 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomunist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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Gambling is part of our capitalist system, and sometimes it goes too far. But to let this thing unwind by itself is going to punish people who were never involved in the gambling.

W has never liked Wall Street or the financial sector. If somebody has convinced him that this is extremely serious and the government needs to fix it, then it almost surely is.

6 posted on 09/25/2008 7:46:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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My mother was called stupid by some for raiding her 401K to pay off her house this spring. She’s not looking so stupid now.


7 posted on 09/25/2008 7:47:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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You are absolutely right, sir.

What I want to see made clear and undeniable (and public) is just WHO it was that did this and WHO it is that is trying to cover their own butts with the taxpayer’s money.


8 posted on 09/25/2008 7:49:02 PM PDT by Nik Naym (Everyone has a right to my opinion.)
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Perfect summary. What a crock.


9 posted on 09/25/2008 7:49:29 PM PDT by quesney
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Time to cut off the funds and let’em die.

Other, real banks and businesses, will be there to pick up the ball, and no money will go to ACORN.


11 posted on 09/25/2008 7:50:59 PM PDT by KoRn (Barack Obama Must Be Stopped!!!)
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"They intend to gamble with the tax receipts and or freshly printed money."

All those mortgages! The socialists have succeeded in nationalizing the housing industry. Now they will own all that private property.

Well, if the government owns the property, it is no longer private.

Socialists hate private property. Now they are buying up individual homes. With people living in them!!!

yitbos

12 posted on 09/25/2008 7:51:38 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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Not if we can help it, they won’t.

Many of us have mobilized and sent 1000’s of emails and made hundreds of phone calls and blogged our butts off for the last three days.

I haven’t done any work all week. I email, I call, I monitor FR, various news and other sites. That’s it. I’ve lost too much already to just take this lying down.


13 posted on 09/25/2008 7:51:58 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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Rush had a comment today along the lines of this is like Colonel Saunders saying don't worry the chickens are ok.
14 posted on 09/25/2008 7:52:33 PM PDT by A message (Governor Palin is a great choice for Vice-President. McCain/ Palin '08)
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15 posted on 09/25/2008 7:52:53 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (No to bailouts, no to amnesty, no to carbon credits, no to Big Government!)
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Sums it up. Although I don't like Democrats (or Republicans even) overseeing this, we can't lose sight of who the real culprits are.

I am so tired of all this blaming - it happened on the Republicans watch, Clinton signed the bill Phil Gramm drafted, etc, etc, etc.

The real culprits are the looters in Wall Street that artificially inflated their profits, and by extension their own compensation, with questionable investments, irresponsible leverage and looking the other way on fradulent loan origination.

Any bill I would support would have to include limits on executive compensation for any company that accepts a bailout, investigations into fraud, and civil penalties on any executives that mis-managed the money in their trust.

For the latter I am thinking they can adopt a resonable investor rule - would a reasonable investor have made this decision. Most of these crooks couldn't pass that standard.

16 posted on 09/25/2008 7:53:14 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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The overwhelming and articulate opposition to the bailout, from both sides of the spectrum, has led me to conclude that what Americans want is to be told the truth about the economy, and be told what has to be done to start unwinding the structural problems we face.

They have seen the Paulson plan for exactly what it is, an attempt to slap on a quick coat of paint and keep the "pretend" economy - the asset bubble economy - running for a couple more years.

And they will rise to the occasion. I could not call myself a conservative if I thought anything else.

If McCain can make this his mission, and stick to it without compromise, he will not only be elected, he'll be on Mount Rushmore.

And I say this as someone who has been anti-McCain for almost a decade.

Senator McCain, Senate and House Republicans, and Freepers - don't be afraid to tell Americans the whole truth.

17 posted on 09/25/2008 7:53:35 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (I'll back the bailout if Angelo Mozilo lets me borrow his Lamborghini on Saturday nights.)
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Incidentally, one of the lowest rings of Hell, as seen by the Soviet Communists, was occupied by parasitic Wall Street speculators, and it turns out there might have been some truth to it, after all.


18 posted on 09/25/2008 7:53:35 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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How did the 401K s get into the mix?


22 posted on 09/25/2008 7:55:59 PM PDT by Tarpon (Barrack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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This whole thing stinks. How about seizing the assets of the robber barons who caused this mess? How about calling the pikers in congress on the the carpet who insisted that we give loans to poor minorities? How about outing all of those who took thousands of dollars from FannieFreddie, whatever the hell that even means anymore, to look the other way? I’m angry. I haven’t been posting much lately, but this is really getting my goat.

Where is my bailout? Where is my neighbor’s bailout? We all have bills. My oil bill this winter is going to be sky high. My electric bill is through the roof. I’m tired of hearing “the alternative is worse”. Screw all the Wallstreeters and speculators. I say let them get ttheir comeuppance. I’ve had it. And George Bush can go to hell, too. I voted for him twice, and I’m tired of hearing him. Why didn’t he fight harder years ago when something could have been done?


23 posted on 09/25/2008 7:56:11 PM PDT by Bluestateredman (Self-sufficiency is the American Way)
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I fold,I may go all in later.


25 posted on 09/25/2008 7:57:26 PM PDT by mdittmar ((May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free))
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A tongue in cheek alternate financial bailout plan conceived by a person or persons unkown:

“Morning Everyone,

I’m against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG.

Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let’s assume there are
200,000,000 bonafide U. S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 00 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax-free.

So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

That sends $25,500,000, 000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.

A husband and wife has $595,000 .00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 + in your family?

Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.

Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads

Put away money for college - it’ll be there

Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.

Buy a new car - create jobs

Invest in the market - capital drives growth

Pay for your parent’s medical insurance - health care improves

Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks

who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company

that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it... instead of trickling out

a puny $1000.00 ( ‘vote buy’ ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it.

Sell off its parts.

Let American General go back to being American General.

Sell off the real estate.

Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.

Sure it’s a crazy idea that can ‘never work.’

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion

We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.

And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh... I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal regards,

A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic.

PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it’s good for a laugh “


35 posted on 09/25/2008 8:28:11 PM PDT by Postman
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