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Not Too Small to Appear on a Big No-Fly Watch List
NYTimes ^ | 9/29/08 | Joe Sharkey

Posted on 09/30/2008 9:14:50 AM PDT by LibWhacker

A RESPONSE to last week’s column about the chronic troubles of air travelers came from Christine Anderson, who says she was with her son Jack both times he was told that he was on the terrorist watch list.

The first time was in 2004, when Jack; his mother; his brothers Joey, then 8, and Joshua, then 5; and their grandmother, Susan, arrived at the airport in Minneapolis for a trip to Disney World.

“The woman at the ticket counter demanded, ‘Who is John Anderson?’ ” Ms. Anderson recalled. She pointed at the baby stroller and said, “He’s right here.” The suspect, then 2 years old, blinked his big blue eyes and happily gummed his pacifier.

“That baby’s on the no-fly watch list,” the agent said.

His brothers became agitated. “We’re not going to Disney World!” one of them wailed, according to Ms. Anderson.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anderson; baby; list; watch

1 posted on 09/30/2008 9:14:51 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

From the article ... “After about an hour, the airline ascertained that the Jack in the stroller was not the Jack on the terrorist list, and the family made its flight.”

No effing wonder Obama has a following if we have dumbasses like this that require an hour to figure it out.


2 posted on 09/30/2008 9:16:55 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: LibWhacker
That baby’s on the no-fly watch list

It's reasonable to assume he's a possible biological weapons threat. Don't underestimate the lethality of a well filled poopy diaper.

3 posted on 09/30/2008 9:21:01 AM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: LibWhacker

Can’t be to sure about the little tyke. Some of the contents of my daughter’s diaper were pretty “explosive”.

...I’m just sayin... ;^0


4 posted on 09/30/2008 9:21:22 AM PDT by HanneyBean
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To: mgc1122

I still think it sadly humerous that a half-empty tube of tooth paste with a 3.5 oz label is gleefully confiscated by now badged Homeland Security Agents.

As Ronald Reagan said, and I quote “...government is the problem.”


5 posted on 09/30/2008 9:22:35 AM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: LibWhacker

Fortunately for Americans, Norman Minetta prohibited the TSA from profiling the people who are actually trying to destroy us. Jack Anderson, for all we know, could be a terrorist POSING as a 2 year-old in a stroller to sneak past the TSA.

/sarc


6 posted on 09/30/2008 9:25:30 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

Jack Anderson = John Anderson

Wrong terrorist list!


7 posted on 09/30/2008 9:27:00 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: LibWhacker

My dad shares a name with an IRA terrorist and is on the “watch” list. It’s a bit of a pain since he’s in sales and travels 60-70% of the time.


8 posted on 09/30/2008 9:27:11 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: DustyMoment
Norman Minetta prohibited the TSA from profiling the people who are actually trying to destroy us.

The "We don't profile." line is for public consumption.

9 posted on 09/30/2008 9:29:29 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Taglines are The Devil.)
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To: LibWhacker

This is what happens when you put in zero-tolerance, no-brains-allowed rules in place. The ticket agent ought to have taken one glance at the baby and waived them through, but fear of being reprimanded, losing his/her job, and/or even criminal prosecution has replaced common sense.


10 posted on 09/30/2008 9:36:45 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
The "We don't profile." line is for public consumption.

You're right. Blonde 4 year-olds and grannies in wheelchairs seem to invite the closest scrutiny from the TSA. God forbid that we focus on the people trying to kill us.

The fact of the matter is that a terrorist dressed in traditional arab clothing carrying a large satchel with the word "BOMB" in large white letters on the outside wouldn't be noticed by the TSA. But, try to sneak a half-used tube of toothpaste aboard an aircraft . . . . . .

11 posted on 09/30/2008 10:19:22 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment
“That baby’s on the no-fly watch list,” the agent said.

"Sez you, toots!"


12 posted on 09/30/2008 10:37:15 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: LibWhacker

This reminds me of 2 stories that show similar blatant stupidity...

The first was shortly after the FAA agreed to certify pilots to get training in order to be able to carry a handgun on the flightdeck of the airplane. As the pilot was going through security (with his SIG handgun), the TSA nimrod confiscated the pilot’s nail clippers. The pilot could be trusted with a handgun, but not nail clippers.

The other one was when a TSA moron tried to block a man from getting on a plane, because he was carrying an item that might be used as a weapon. The man was retired General Joe Foss on his way to give a speech at the USMA at West Point, and the dangerous item was the Congressional Medal of Honor that he was awarded after shooting down 26 enemy planes in the Pacific theater during WWII.

Mark


13 posted on 09/30/2008 10:40:45 AM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: LibWhacker

Took over an hour to sort that out?

I swear we are the world’s #1 producers of idiocy.


14 posted on 09/30/2008 10:44:22 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: MarkL

This reminds me of 2 stories that show similar blatant stupidity...

The first was shortly after the FAA agreed to certify pilots to get training in order to be able to carry a handgun on the flightdeck of the airplane. As the pilot was going through security (with his SIG handgun), the TSA nimrod confiscated the pilot’s nail clippers. The pilot could be trusted with a handgun, but not nail clippers.

The other one was when a TSA moron tried to block a man from getting on a plane, because he was carrying an item that might be used as a weapon. The man was retired General Joe Foss on his way to give a speech at the USMA at West Point, and the dangerous item was the Congressional Medal of Honor that he was awarded after shooting down 26 enemy planes in the Pacific theater during WWII.


Pilots with handguns bypass security, so this story sounds bogus. They also do not carry SIGs.


15 posted on 09/30/2008 10:46:35 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: MarkL

I got one.

A friend of mine is an Air Marshal.

In early 2002 he was waiting to board a flight when he was approached by a TSA official and informed that he was being selected for a random search. (Now he had already checked in the the TSA gal at the security counter).

He looked at the TSA agent and calmly said, “You can’t search me.”

The TSA agent got flustered and started making a scene when the female TSA agent seeing what was happening yelled across the security terminal.

“Bob, you can’t search him! He’s armed!”


16 posted on 09/30/2008 10:49:04 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: LibWhacker

Scrap the no-fly list, period.

The inconvenience to everyone, as well as the stigma to finding oneself on the list far outweighs any chance a terrorist slips through and boards.

besides, once we start giving up our freedom, liberty, and right to travel unmolested then the terrorists have already won.

This silly list, as well as the excreble Patriot Act have outlived any usefulness they may have once had, if they ever did.


17 posted on 09/30/2008 12:08:13 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: LibWhacker

Scrap the no-fly list, period.

The inconvenience to everyone, as well as the stigma to finding oneself on the list far outweighs any chance a terrorist slips through and boards.

Besides, once we start giving up our freedom, liberty, and right to travel unmolested then the terrorists have already won.

This silly list, as well as the excreble Patriot Act have outlived any usefulness they may have once had, if they ever did.


18 posted on 09/30/2008 12:08:38 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: DustyMoment

I thought Jack Anderson was a lib columnist who’s now gone to the big newsroom in the sky?


19 posted on 09/30/2008 12:09:53 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: aviator
Pilots with handguns bypass security, so this story sounds bogus. They also do not carry SIGs.

It happened but it was right after 9/11, before the handgun law got passed. If I recall the pilot got pissed and said something to the effect that he could crash the plane any time he wanted so why were they worried about a nail clipper? They arrested him.

20 posted on 09/30/2008 12:13:27 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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