Posted on 09/30/2008 4:50:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
i dont think this dog will hunt.And you believe this why?
Hunt? LOL!
Under "Factual Allegations", Berg claims, "There is a Canadian Birth Certificate posted on the Internet in the name of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.; however, the date of birth shows to be August 23, 1961.".
That dog can yelp and whine with the best of them. But hunt? Forget about it!
omg
Yes, the birth certificate signed by Dudley Dooright. This case does have some major holes in it.
But I keep coming back to the main question, why doesn’t Obama just produce his birth certificate?
IMHO, there is only one way the plaintiff’s case can succeed both legally and in terms of media attention, and it seems quite far-fetched: if McCain’s campaign joins the case as a plaintiff!
Especially since he claimed in one his books that he’s seen it, handled it in his grandmother’s attic, along with shot records, etc.
Lawgvr1955 said -——“It may have been mentioned, but who is the judge on this case? Who appointed him/her?” -——
The Judge is R. Barclay Surrick. I understand he’s a Clinton appointee.
Lancey Howard asked: -—— “I don’t know whether the allegation that Obama isn’t a natural born citizen has any merit or not, but can someone tell me, is there any system in place or any body that examines a presidential candidate to ensure that they meet all the constitutional requirements for office?” -——
I responded to a similar question on a similar post over at over at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2092114/posts?page=68#68.
Just my opinion of course, but ....
The upshot is that there is a process, which was recently described in the Robinson (Alan Keyes) case against McCain in California (http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2008cv03836/206145/39/0.pdf)
One of the millions of campaign contributors would have to bring the lawsuit. Unless Berg is one of them and an innocent contributor—not just one who contributed solely to bring the lawsuit—then he has no standing to pursue the suit. Standing means that the plaintiff has suffered real, tangible, measurable damage due to the fraud, unrelated to the costs of bringing the lawsuit, and I don’t think Berg can demonstrate this. Millions could, absolutely, but they would have to bring a separate lawsuit against both Obama and the DNC. That doesn’t help Berg. Now if Obama wins and it comes out that he is disqualified, perhaps McCain and/or the RNC could make a claim but I don’t think it helps the presidential succession.
Thats why we have an electoral college, so they say.
To prevent these kinds of things.
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LOL
My question is, if there was anything to this at all, wouldn’t the Clintons have been all over it in the primaries?
“Suppossedly the electoral college would convert its votes to the remaining candidate, for cause.”
That “Supposedly” is a big word and an even bigger assumption. Electors are politicians or wanna-be politicians and their minions. Dem electors are not going to vote for a Republican president.
Meant to add, it is as easy to string the lawsuit out to late January as it is to early November. The Berg won’t make a difference in this election, at least not enough to put McCain into office if he loses the election.
Then they say hello to the Supreme Court of the United States, it will order how the votes are to be cast.
My question is, if there was anything to this at all, wouldn’t the Clintons have been all over it in the primaries?
***They found out about it too late.
I am admittedly not up on electoral college rules but I seem to recall discussiom about four years ago on the matter of whether electors are bound to vote according to how their states voted or whether they were free agents who could vote as they wanted. Of course, if they assumed free agent status, the states could sue them and I imagine that would end up in court but I’m not sure anyone else would have the right to sue the electors besides their state governments. When it comes to the election of the president, we are not a strict democracy.
Bump Dat,,,
Ain’t much time left...:0/
The electoral college exists to prevent problems such as the one in question, having a treasonous president, etc.
The college could debate and hammer out the issue of not natural born, and their vote could also be reviewed by the Supreme COurt.
If the electoral college is interpreting constitutional law, then, definitely the Supreme Court would have the power to review that interpretation. I was thinking in terms of challenges to individual electoral votes by parties other than the states. Thanks for the information.
When did we start dissecting this on FR - April?
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