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Does Obama have NPD? (Narcissistic Personality Disorder)
WorldNetDaily ^ | September 30, 2008 | Ali Sina

Posted on 09/30/2008 5:11:13 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

The 2008 presidential election in America is the most crucial election in this country's history, not because the issues are that critical but because of Sen. Barack Obama. The Democratic presidential candidate's language, posture and demeanor suggest that he may suffer from narcissistic personality disorder, or NPD. NPD is a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration and a lack of empathy. The following are some of the symptoms of NPD that can be seen in Sen. Obama:

He subtly misrepresents facts, opportunistically shifts positions, ignores data that conflict with his fantasy world, is overly confident and acts presidential despite commensurate merits and his modest life achievements, considers himself above the law, talks about himself in the third person, has a messianic vision of himself and his "mission," displays false modesty while often evincing haughtiness, sublimates aggression, holds grudges and behaves as an eternal adolescent. These are narcissistic traits as seen in Sen. Obama by Dr. Sam Vaknin. The author of "The Malignant Self Love," Vaknin states, "Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist."

NPD is the prime disorder experienced by all the madmen of history – from Hitler to Stalin, Mao, Kim, Pol Pot, Osama, Khomeini, Saddam and Idi Amin. These men wreaked havoc and killed millions. They looked normal. Few suspected their insanity until it was too late.

Obama shares something else with these infamous narcissists: a chaotic childhood. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse, such as the neglecting of his or her emotional needs.

Pathological narcissism is not run-of-the-mill narcissism – someone with a hedonistic or self-centered sense of self – but rather someone with a very weak sense of self. A child who feels inferior, due to real or perceived social rejection, will try to compensate his feeling of inferiority...

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KEYWORDS: 2008; disorders; issues; narcissism; obama; psychology
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1 posted on 09/30/2008 5:11:13 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yes, it’s only too obvious.


2 posted on 09/30/2008 5:13:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ve said this before and it applies not just to Obambi but to most leftist leaders (Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Chavez, etc).

Just for the record:

Narcissistic DSM IV Criteria

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


3 posted on 09/30/2008 5:14:23 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“NPD is the prime disorder experienced by all the madmen of history – from Hitler to Stalin, Mao, Kim, Pol Pot, Osama, Khomeini, Saddam and Idi Amin. These men wreaked havoc and killed millions. They looked normal. Few suspected their insanity until it was too late.”


4 posted on 09/30/2008 5:14:25 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (H)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is the Pope Catholic?


5 posted on 09/30/2008 5:14:59 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe he picked it up from Hillary who got it from Bill?


6 posted on 09/30/2008 5:15:13 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

From what I’ve seen, Obama suffers only from delusions of adequacy.


7 posted on 09/30/2008 5:15:45 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Many of our politicians display traits that suggest some type of psychological disorder

Clinton (both, different disorders) and lately- Pelosi (*yikes) seem notable Obama is worrisome though- some of history's worst leaders have been men who resented and hated their fathers/mothers and inwardly, felt the need to atone for deep rooted insecurities that resulted. Obama sure drew two losing cards for parents...

8 posted on 09/30/2008 5:16:46 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t think that the senator has a “disorder”.

Obama knows that the liberal base wants a savior and someone to obey without question. He’s just delivering what they want.

Of course, many politicians have high opinions of themselves and are narcissistic, but I don’t think this senator is really exceptional in this regard.


9 posted on 09/30/2008 5:17:07 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama - A legend in his own mind


10 posted on 09/30/2008 5:19:53 PM PDT by Florida native
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To: Free ThinkerNY
NPD people are usually not aware of what they are. Hillary is classic NPD(I *deserve* the presidency!)

Obama is *very* aware of what he is. There are people on this board who have met him in person, he's easily the most personable democratic politician. Even hardcore conservatives like him in person.

This is what makes him dangerous. Obama is *not* crazy and has complete control over himself(unlike Billy C).

Underestimate him at your own peril.

11 posted on 09/30/2008 5:22:31 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not only does The One, The Obamesiah, Barak Obama have NPD, he has one of the most extreme cases I’ve ever seen. And I have (unfortunately) had to deal with several people with bonafide NPD diagnosises, usually as a result of helping female friends deal with the psychos after a break up. (For some reason, many nice and otherwise intelligent women seem irresistably drawn to NPD types.)


12 posted on 09/30/2008 5:22:33 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is the Pope Catholic?


13 posted on 09/30/2008 5:26:11 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I have never seen a candidate (or a dictator) hold his nose so high. It’s just about parallel to the ground. Typical black snob.


14 posted on 09/30/2008 5:27:18 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Like the classic narcissist, Obama loses his composure if he is scoffed at or laughed at. Pat Buchanan is adept at responding with laughter at a ridiculous point brought up by an opponent. If McCain can hammer away at Obama’s delusional sense of grandeur, the messiah will respond by looking somewhat less than Presidential.

If the pattern of a narcissist is compared to Obama’s past affiliations, one can conclude that he used Reverend Wright and his church for his political ambitions and did not care a whit about the teachings of the church. He stayed with Wright until he could derive no further benefit, then abandoned the Reverend. The same likely could be said for some of his other associations.

His radical view on abortion is a clear sign of his lack of empathy.

He lies with ease, which is another sure sign.

God willing, this man will never become President.


15 posted on 09/30/2008 5:27:56 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’s a DimRat they all do!


16 posted on 09/30/2008 5:29:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: ketsu

People with personality disorders can be very charming as needed.


17 posted on 09/30/2008 5:30:05 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: Cicero

Uh, they are JUST starting to contemplate this obvious truth? A bit slow on the uptake I say. Of course he has NPD. Lord help us.


18 posted on 09/30/2008 5:30:55 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Don’t know about NPD, but someone who would say, “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for”, is odd.


19 posted on 09/30/2008 5:32:02 PM PDT by randita
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Is it just me, or does he talk like Captain Kirk? He breaks his speaking cadence in unusual places instead of at the end of gramatical phrases, commas, or periods.

we have a . . . . problem with . . . this issue
instead of
we have a problem . . . with this issue

It's actually frustrating for me to listen to his speeches sometimes. I keep thinking come on, spit it out, you can do it.
20 posted on 09/30/2008 5:32:27 PM PDT by gatechie
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
People with personality disorders can be very charming as needed.
Trust me Obama's a different bird. You should be *wishing* he was NPD.
21 posted on 09/30/2008 5:33:40 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: andy58-in-nh
LOL! That would be my preferred diagnosis.

I don't like throwing around diagnoses. I think it would be hard to make an accurate diagnosis without knowing more about his personal relationships.

I am as troubled by this article as I was by the article by some alleged pshrink in Sodom by the Bay who waxed eloquent about Dubya being a dry drunk. Yeah, it's not totally off the wall to think such tings about either of them, but no responsible counsellor would propose a diagnosis on the basis of the news and public appearances.

I mean, the very fact that one engages in public appearances lays the groundwork for a diagnosis of Histrionic PD, but some jobs require public appearances, fer crine oudloud.

So I think this article aand all like it are irresponsible and make psychotherapy sobject to politics. The writer must die.

Oops. Did I say that?

22 posted on 09/30/2008 5:33:43 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
LOL! That would be my preferred diagnosis.

I don't like throwing around diagnoses. I think it would be hard to make an accurate diagnosis without knowing more about his personal relationships.

I am as troubled by this article as I was by the article by some alleged pshrink in Sodom by the Bay who waxed eloquent about Dubya being a dry drunk. Yeah, it's not totally off the wall to think such tings about either of them, but no responsible counsellor would propose a diagnosis on the basis of the news and public appearances.

I mean, the very fact that one engages in public appearances lays the groundwork for a diagnosis of Histrionic PD, but some jobs require public appearances, fer crine oudloud.

So I think this article aand all like it are irresponsible and make psychotherapy sobject to politics. The writer must die.

Oops. Did I say that?

23 posted on 09/30/2008 5:33:57 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Cicero

Our minimum leader!


24 posted on 09/30/2008 5:34:06 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: I_Like_Spam
Of course, many politicians have high opinions of themselves and are narcissistic, but I don’t think this senator is really exceptional in this regard.

I think you're vastly underestimating the depth of Obama's narcissism.

25 posted on 09/30/2008 5:34:25 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("Stand up, Chuck!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

To the author of this article,

Lay people who engage in psychiatric diagnosis of people they’ve never met and do not know are...narcissistic.


26 posted on 09/30/2008 5:36:03 PM PDT by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: randita

My husband and I were talking about this at lunch today. I’d say, yes.

I used to tell people that he reminded of Marjoe Goertner, when I heard him at the 2004 convention. I’d say that Marjoe was a narcissistic, and a huge fraud.

That pretty much sums up Obama. If you don’t know who Marjoe is and what he was, look him up.


27 posted on 09/30/2008 5:36:30 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


28 posted on 09/30/2008 5:43:41 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 ((Socialism . . . the catalyst of mediocrity))
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To: ketsu

Huh? NPD types are almost always EXTREMELY charming in person. They seem to make friends instantly, to “feel their pain.” But that’s because they are master manipulators of people’s emotions (something a person with true empathy wouldn’t dream of doing). The reality, though, is that these “friends” mean nothing to the narcicist - they’ll be “thrown under the bus” at an instant’s notice.

And this isn’t underestimating Obama. Quite the opposite, in fact - it is recognizing part of why he is so good at politics and how dangerous he really is.


29 posted on 09/30/2008 5:44:22 PM PDT by piytar
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To: PhilosopherStones
I’ve said this before and it applies not just to Obambi but to most leftist leaders (Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Chavez, etc).

Don't forget John Edwards.
30 posted on 09/30/2008 5:45:29 PM PDT by Notasoccermom (.)
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To: ketsu

“Trust me Obama’s a different bird. You should be *wishing* he was NPD.”

Something worse than NPD in a President? Oh wow, I *hope* not. I can only think of a few worse things, and they are truly terrifying to conteplate.

Won’t speculate what you are driving at, but I seriously hope you are wrong.


31 posted on 09/30/2008 5:50:19 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Mad Dawg

Uh oh. You might just harbor repressed feelings of anger toward psychotherapists. Me, I harbor unrepressed feelings of anger toward politicians, which is why I drink whiskey and write so affectionately about them. ;-)


32 posted on 09/30/2008 5:52:22 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: Notasoccermom

I have also seen it in some corporate executives. More the empty suit types, long on image short on substance. And yes, they are the limousine liberal types.

No, I do not lump all corporate executives in this category.


33 posted on 09/30/2008 5:58:28 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This will answer your question:

Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer

34 posted on 09/30/2008 6:01:01 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Repressed my ample behind!

My professional opinion with respect to both of us is if our anger were any less repressed we'd be doing time.

35 posted on 09/30/2008 6:02:34 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama has done what I thought at one time was impossible, outdone Bill Clinton when it comes to narcissism and ego-centricity.


36 posted on 09/30/2008 6:03:15 PM PDT by stratman1969 (This space for rent)
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To: piytar
Huh? NPD types are almost always EXTREMELY charming in person. They seem to make friends instantly, to “feel their pain.” But that’s because they are master manipulators of people’s emotions (something a person with true empathy wouldn’t dream of doing). The reality, though, is that these “friends” mean nothing to the narcicist - they’ll be “thrown under the bus” at an instant’s notice.

And this isn’t underestimating Obama. Quite the opposite, in fact - it is recognizing part of why he is so good at politics and how dangerous he really is.

I'm quite aware of what you are talking about. But if you meet a real narcissist you'll find that they can be amazingly callous and cruel with people that aren't useful to them. Obama is different. You may argue that he's just smarter. I'll argue he's another breed entirely.
37 posted on 09/30/2008 6:04:32 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: randita
Don’t know about NPD, but someone who would say, “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for”, is odd.

I just assumed at the time that that was the royal "we." As in Queen Victoria's famous phrase, "We are not amused."

38 posted on 09/30/2008 6:04:44 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mad Dawg
My professional opinion with respect to both of us is if our anger were any less repressed we'd be doing time.

Well, yeah, you've got me there. :-) But at least we take out our frustrations on a keyboard...

39 posted on 09/30/2008 6:07:43 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: piytar
Something worse than NPD in a President? Oh wow, I *hope* not. I can only think of a few worse things, and they are truly terrifying to conteplate.

Won’t speculate what you are driving at, but I seriously hope you are wrong.

Think about it this way. A truly NPD person only cares for the acquisition and maintenance of power. They're relatively simple, petty dictators and despots. Obama has preternatural self control. Every action he takes is calculated not just for personal gain(i.e. somebody with NPD) but with the intention of redefining the game entirely. That should be far more scary.

Think about it this way, he doesn't play messiah(like an NPD person would) he *is* the messiah.

40 posted on 09/30/2008 6:09:02 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh, now I see that the author is the same author I linked (on an FR thread.) I wish he was writing for someone other than WorldNetDaily. It’s the kiss of death for credibility, and Ali Sina is most definitely credible. I hope he can get this work out to a wider audience.


41 posted on 09/30/2008 6:09:47 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Mad Dawg
The writer must die.

I know you are only joking, but this writer, Ali Sina, is a former muslim who tries to help other muslims get free of the religion of hate. He has written a book exposing the truth about Muhammad, and has challenged Muslims to disprove anything he has said.

He is currently living somewhere in Canada, eveidntly hiding from all the fatwas out against him.

Sina's Challenge

42 posted on 09/30/2008 6:22:14 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: ketsu
I'm quite aware of what you are talking about. But if you meet a real narcissist you'll find that they can be amazingly callous and cruel with people that aren't useful to them. Obama is different. You may argue that he's just smarter. I'll argue he's another breed entirely.

Sociopath?

43 posted on 09/30/2008 6:23:22 PM PDT by pray4liberty (The Lord is on the side of the truly righteous.)
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To: Notasoccermom

And don’t forget most of the people that support them...


44 posted on 09/30/2008 6:25:46 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: Cicero

Pathological liar combined with a psychopathic personality is a real winner. Just what we need in a lead planter of all the little “acorn” seeds. Acorns do not fall far from the tree.


45 posted on 09/30/2008 6:27:19 PM PDT by primatreat ("Flight animals are generally a nice source of food and wonderful target practice".)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Anecdotal evidence I realize, but all the democrats I personally know are very unstable people. Maybe I just don’t know enough of them. LOL


46 posted on 09/30/2008 6:27:28 PM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My assessment is that Obama is an evil man. I’ve felt that way ever since he tossed his grandmother under the campaign bus on March 18th. And the fact that most other people found that despicable conduct acceptable is also disturbing to me.


47 posted on 09/30/2008 6:27:39 PM PDT by devere
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To: piytar
it is recognizing part of why he is so good at politics and how dangerous he really is.

Just like Clinton was good at politics

Pure drivel

If we had half an honest MSM we would see just how good these bozos are at politics
48 posted on 09/30/2008 6:40:30 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: SpookBrat
Anecdotal evidence I realize, but all the democrats I personally know are very unstable people.

Yeah the real hard core ones have no real lives --Eric Hofer's "True Believer" pins them exactly
49 posted on 09/30/2008 6:45:18 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: devere
I’ve felt that way ever since he tossed his grandmother under the campaign bus on March 18th

Funny how you can find out all you need to know about some politicians in one statement they make

Clinton--I Didn't Inhale

Gore --I had to pee a lot

Barak--My grandmother was a typical white person
50 posted on 09/30/2008 6:49:31 PM PDT by uncbob
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