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IBD Editorial: Truthless Joe
Investor's Business Daily ^ | October 3, 2008 | The Editors

Posted on 10/03/2008 8:07:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Election '08: It's hard choosing the worst in last Thursday's vice presidential debate: Sen. Joe Biden's continual untruths, his certitude in delivering them, or the free pass he got all night long.

In "The Prince of Darkness," his memoir_of 50 years as a reporter in Washington, Robert Novak points out that while Jimmy Carter successfully ran for president by acting as "the anti-Washington, anti-government, anti-lawyer candidate telling audiences, 'I'll never lie to you' and setting post-Watergate standards of honesty," behind the smile Carter was actually "a habitual liar who modified the truth to suit his purposes."

But neither Carter nor Bill Clinton, whose twists and turns before a grand jury led to his impeachment, ever stared into the camera and spouted such a string of outright fabrications as if they were gospel truths the way Barack Obama's running mate did last week.

Thankfully, the blogosphere has been having a field day cataloguing Joe's whoppers. First, as InstaPundit's Michael Totten instantly noted after the debate, Biden—the great, seasoned foreign policy expert who chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee—falsely claimed France and the U.S. "kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon."

Of course, the debate's moderator, Gwen Ifill of PBS' "Washington Week," didn't call Biden on the gaffe; that might not be good for sales of her upcoming book, "The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama" (especially if there turns out not to be an Age of Obama).

There was also Biden's accusation that John McCain is soft on regulation, when in fact he tried to beef up regulations on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—an explanation for why he got so little campaign money from Fannie and Freddie over the years—under $22,000—as opposed to the more than $126,000 Obama received in his short time in the Senate.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; bo; debate; democrat; democrats; election; elections; ifill; littlejoe; mccain; obama; palin; vpdebate
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Innerestin’


21 posted on 10/03/2008 9:45:55 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: CaptRon

So, who lies more? Obama or Biden? It seems neither of them can even recognize the truth. The complicity of the media is unforgivable.


22 posted on 10/03/2008 9:48:00 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The WSJ now has a new far lefty on the OpEd page

You may be referring to Thomas Frank. What on earth are they thinking? They are going to alienate a lot of readers...

23 posted on 10/03/2008 9:49:51 PM PDT by nascent skeptic
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To: jan in Colorado

They both lie. Biden willfully, Obama by omission. Yes, the press is comlicit, that’s why on Tuesday McCain has to come strapped and looking to kick ass an take names. God knows the past week has given him more ammo than a gatling gun.


24 posted on 10/03/2008 9:53:53 PM PDT by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: AZLiberty
I totally agree! I think they knew there was going to be a crash, but they wanted to put it off until they had “the One” in office to help them cover their tracks. I think it caught them up short—by about a month. Perhaps that is one reason they, and their media cohorts, had pulled out all the stops to win this particular election.

If you recall Reid's response when he first heard about the crisis, he sounded as befuddled as anyone. His response was, to paraphrase, “I don't know what we're going to do, we're in completely uncharted waters here”.

25 posted on 10/04/2008 1:46:32 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: AZLiberty
I totally agree! I think they knew there was going to be a crash, but they wanted to put it off until they had “the One” in office to help them cover their tracks. I think it caught them up short—by about a month. Perhaps that is one reason they, and their media cohorts, had pulled out all the stops to win this particular election.

If you recall Reid's response when he first heard about the crisis, he sounded as befuddled as anyone. His response was, to paraphrase, “I don't know what we're going to do, we're in completely uncharted waters here”.

26 posted on 10/04/2008 1:50:11 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Frantzie
Does anyone out their know what IBD’s balance sheet looks like? I sure hope this newspaper's revenue isn't down 10%.
27 posted on 10/04/2008 2:00:33 AM PDT by Red Dog #1 (Up is down and down is up...)
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To: itsamelman
I've never seen someone tape their eyes like that.  Sorta reminds me of the Gabor sisters.

I guess we can refer to him as Joe ShaSha Biden from now on.




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28 posted on 10/04/2008 2:04:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's hard choosing the worst in last Thursday's vice presidential debate: Sen. Joe Biden's continual untruths, his certitude in delivering them, or the free pass he got all night long.

In "The Prince of Darkness," his memoir_of 50 years as a reporter in Washington, Robert Novak points out that while Jimmy Carter successfully ran for president by acting as "the anti-Washington, anti-government, anti-lawyer candidate telling audiences, 'I'll never lie to you' and setting post-Watergate standards of honesty," behind the smile Carter was actually "a habitual liar who modified the truth to suit his purposes."

But neither Carter nor Bill Clinton, whose twists and turns before a grand jury led to his impeachment, ever stared into the camera and spouted such a string of outright fabrications as if they were gospel truths the way Barack Obama's running mate did last week.

Thankfully, the blogosphere has been having a field day cataloguing Joe's whoppers. First, as InstaPundit's Michael Totten instantly noted after the debate, Biden—the great, seasoned foreign policy expert who chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee—falsely claimed France and the U.S. "kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon."

Fresh from the McCain people.

JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES DURING THE DEBATE!

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.


NOW, NOW, NOW...THERE GOES JOE BIDEN LYING AGAIN.

29 posted on 10/04/2008 7:34:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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To: nascent skeptic

I couldn’t remember his name — that’s probably him. I’ve read a couple of his articles and they made me so livid I was about ready to cancel my subscription. I don’t buy the WSJ for far left opinions. Over the past 20 years, the WSJ seems to have morphed into two papers - the editorial page and everything else.


30 posted on 10/04/2008 7:57:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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