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IBD Editorial: Truthless Joe
Investor's Business Daily ^ | October 3, 2008 | The Editors

Posted on 10/03/2008 8:07:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Election '08: It's hard choosing the worst in last Thursday's vice presidential debate: Sen. Joe Biden's continual untruths, his certitude in delivering them, or the free pass he got all night long.

In "The Prince of Darkness," his memoir_of 50 years as a reporter in Washington, Robert Novak points out that while Jimmy Carter successfully ran for president by acting as "the anti-Washington, anti-government, anti-lawyer candidate telling audiences, 'I'll never lie to you' and setting post-Watergate standards of honesty," behind the smile Carter was actually "a habitual liar who modified the truth to suit his purposes."

But neither Carter nor Bill Clinton, whose twists and turns before a grand jury led to his impeachment, ever stared into the camera and spouted such a string of outright fabrications as if they were gospel truths the way Barack Obama's running mate did last week.

Thankfully, the blogosphere has been having a field day cataloguing Joe's whoppers. First, as InstaPundit's Michael Totten instantly noted after the debate, Biden—the great, seasoned foreign policy expert who chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee—falsely claimed France and the U.S. "kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon."

Of course, the debate's moderator, Gwen Ifill of PBS' "Washington Week," didn't call Biden on the gaffe; that might not be good for sales of her upcoming book, "The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama" (especially if there turns out not to be an Age of Obama).

There was also Biden's accusation that John McCain is soft on regulation, when in fact he tried to beef up regulations on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—an explanation for why he got so little campaign money from Fannie and Freddie over the years—under $22,000—as opposed to the more than $126,000 Obama received in his short time in the Senate.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; bo; debate; democrat; democrats; election; elections; ifill; littlejoe; mccain; obama; palin; vpdebate
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Exactly! 20 years ago, he would have got off scot free on all this, but now there's the Internet.
1 posted on 10/03/2008 8:07:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IBD is probably the best newspaper in the country with excellent editorials. Mostly business stuff but A1.


2 posted on 10/03/2008 8:10:04 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IBD has well surpassed the WSJ in my eyes.


3 posted on 10/03/2008 8:11:06 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: Frantzie

I agree. Best Newspaper and best cartoonist (hey, you have to set your priorities. Michael Ramirez is great though)...


4 posted on 10/03/2008 8:14:39 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
National Review's Jim Geraghty noted Biden's claim that "we spend more money in three weeks on combat in Iraq than we spent on the entirety of the last seven years that we have been in Afghanistan building that country" and concluded Biden was "off by 2,000%."

The return of fuzzy math?

5 posted on 10/03/2008 8:16:44 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Capitalism still works. The free marketplace and competition still work." -Gov. Sarah Palin)
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To: Terpfen
I liked old Honest Joe's line about the rope line.

I can't remember the exact words, but in response to criticism that he had said no coal fired plants in the US, he said something like “That was just something I said on a rope line”.

Hey, guys. That is exactly what Governor Palin meant when she said she says the same thing no matter where she is.

An Honorable person is just as accurate whether he is looking into a TV camera with millions watching or whether he is talking to one person on a rope line.

6 posted on 10/03/2008 8:20:37 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

UPDATED ON FRIDAY: OK, here’s the deal, last night Biden did mention Katie’s restaurant and Union Street.

But I checked The News Journal archives this morning and, well, don’t plan on trying to find it on Union Street anytime soon. And I wonder if the Katie’s today, which is now actually Wings to Go at Katies, is the same Katie’s that Joe remembers.....

Katie’s was at the corner of Sixth and Scott streets in Wilmington’s Little Italy neighborhood. (Not Union Street.) It had been a local and much-loved institution, well known for its rich, thick Italian gravy (tomato sauce) and spaghetti. It was opened in 1936 by Silvio Spiezio, who later sold it in 1945. The Fugilino family owned and ran the restaurant for years until it was sold in the 1981 after Frances Mae Fugilino’s death.

Katie’s then changed hands again in 1985, but new owners kept the venerable name.

But it eventually changed hands again - at least 10 years ago, maybe even more like 15 years ago (SEE UPDATE BELOW) - and was renamed C.J. Bart’s, which according to features reporter Ryan Cormier in a May 2008 News Journal story became “ a spot with an unsavory reputation as a magnet for panhandlers and worse.”

Cormier reported that Nate Johnson, owner of the Wilmington and Dewey Beach Wings to Go restaurants, recently took over CJ Bart’s and renamed it Wings to Go at Katies “as an homage to its former residents.
(Photo above was taken in May 2008 by News Journal photographer William Bretzger of the crowd hanging at the new “Wings to Go at Katies.”)

“The first thing we did is clear out the riffraff. If you come in my restaurant, you’re not going to be bothered by people asking you for change or to buy them a beer,” Johnson told The News Journal “You’re protected in there. It is nothing like C.J. Barts. That place is dead and gone forever.”
***NEW UPDATE: Ryan Cormier just spoke to Johnson and he said that Katie’s closed in the 1980s.
Here’s a link to Ryan’s blog with photos he shot this morning of a faded Katie’s sign.

Not only is Wings to Go at Katies a franchise of the local chicken-wings favorite, but there’s a full bar, video games and a spot for bands to play.”

“We’ve always been looking for a spot to do wings and beer, since they go so naturally together,” said Johnson.

According to Cormier, “the sounds of jamming rock bands now fill the air surrounding the bar Wednesday through Saturday nights. Sometimes, blues bands make an appearance as well.”

Maybe Biden did mean to mention the Kozy Korner, which is on Union Street? Or perhaps, he should have given a shout-out to Mrs. Robino’s or Walter’s Steakhouse, two Union Street restaurant institutions?


7 posted on 10/03/2008 8:25:07 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (`Pontius Pilate voted "Present")
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Truthless Joe

Great moniker!

8 posted on 10/03/2008 8:29:10 PM PDT by syriacus (At the intersection of Congress and Fannie Mae .... you will find the DEMron Scandal.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why isn’t the MSM reporting this? Or did they today? I was away from home most of the day.


9 posted on 10/03/2008 8:34:00 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Frantzie

I’ve been an IBD subscriber for over 15 years. There are no better editorials in any paper in the US. Bill O’Neil is really an unsung hero of American exceptionalism and a leading defender of freedom. He has been calling out Bambi since the beginning. There was a great editorial about Bambi’s communist father and how he tried to screw up Kenya. Another great section of the paper is “Leaders and Success” which looks at great sports, business, science, political and military thinkers. The site is great and always worth a look.


10 posted on 10/03/2008 8:47:56 PM PDT by appeal2 (Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but great stupidity is reserved for the Gov't)
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To: Salvation

How bout this quote from the full editorial, “Geraghty also found that ‘Katie’s Restaurant’ in Wilmington, Del., where good old Joe invited anyone to have a beer with him, apparently hasn’t been around for decades. Maybe the senator was too busy conferring with imaginary French liberators of Lebanon to visit his constituency.”


11 posted on 10/03/2008 8:53:07 PM PDT by appeal2 (Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but great stupidity is reserved for the Gov't)
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To: Salvation
Why isn’t the MSM reporting this?

Because they are the MSM.

12 posted on 10/03/2008 8:55:59 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: appeal2
At the risk of sounding insensitve (a reservation Slow Joe hasn't worried about since the incident I'm about to recall), much has been made about the Senator choking up recounting the loss of his family in that car accident.

What has not been mentioned is that Joe has been claiming that his family was killed by a man "who chose to drink his lunch that day".

This is an outrageous lie that was proven wrong the day of the accident by the police, yet grieving Joe has inflicted this lie on the family of that truck driver for 30 plus years.

He is a despicable narcissist who doesn't care who he hurts as long as it benefits him.

And the despicable left claims that Sarah uses Trig as a prop?!?

13 posted on 10/03/2008 9:00:55 PM PDT by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: All


Clearing the Air on Ayers (October 3, 2008)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "OBAMA SONG BRINGS BACK MEMORIES" by Nonie Darwish (October 3, 2008)

Post no. 16 - Link

THE HILL.com: "OBAMA URGES SECOND STIMULUS AFTER BAILOUT PASSES" by Sam Youngman (Posted October 3, 2008, 4:41 pm ET)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "FBI INVESTIGATES OBAMA'S FRIEND" by Andrea Billups (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "(Editor's note: The original version of this article has been corrected. The office of Larry D. Walsh was not raided.) The FBI is investigating a former Illinois state senator who is a poker-playing buddy of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama.") (October 3, 2008)
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE - blog: "THE BIDEN ERROR/LIE/HALLUCINATION LIST (Updated to 22)" (October 3, 2008)

CNS NEWS.com: "OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMS TAXPAYERS COULD PROFIT FROM BAILOUT" by Matt Cover (October 3, 2008)



[Post no. 16] - ARCHIVES - Topic: BIDEN & OBAMA (aka B & O) (October 3, 2008 -- Click Here.)

14 posted on 10/03/2008 9:05:56 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only thing I have against Palin in the debate is that there were so many places where she could have handed Biden his liver.


15 posted on 10/03/2008 9:08:20 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Nyet-Bama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There was also Biden's accusation that John McCain is soft on regulation, when in fact he tried to beef up regulations on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—an explanation for why he got so little campaign money from Fannie and Freddie over the years—under $22,000—as opposed to the more than $126,000 Obama received in his short time in the Senate.

Recent scuttlebutt says that this financial crisis was timed to make the Republican's look bad so that the Democrats can win big in November. I now think, however, that the crisis was a huge surprise for the Democrats. They have been collecting big payoffs so that they could sweep the whole thing under the rug after the election. With a month to go before the election, even this week's passage of the bailout bill may not be able to accomplish the cover-up.

16 posted on 10/03/2008 9:16:35 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Obama can act presidential. McCain should be President.)
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To: Terpfen

I’m beginning to agree. The WSJ now has a new far lefty on the OpEd page replacing the departed Al Hunt. Hunt long overstayed his welcome and I was very happy to see him go. I can’t believe they hired another far left columnist.

IBD has been running an outstanding multipart series called “The Audacity of Socialism.” Well worth reading. I’ve only read a couple of the 17 part series and need to look up the other columns.


17 posted on 10/03/2008 9:23:50 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


Joetox.

18 posted on 10/03/2008 9:24:41 PM PDT by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Yes, and Obama is a risky scheme.


19 posted on 10/03/2008 9:28:44 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Mike Darancette

In August she was minding her own business, and that of the state of Alaska. Considering what she’s had to do (including pulling McCain’s bacon out of the fire - twice) in the last 35 days, I think she did well to hand a complete Washington insider his tonsils.


20 posted on 10/03/2008 9:32:17 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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