Posted on 10/04/2008 5:33:42 PM PDT by mimi from mi
It seems an attorney by the name of Paul Andrew Mitchell has "appliedv for leave to intervene in the instant case, to petition this honorable Court for a Writ in the nature of a Prohibition if leave is granted, and to provide timely written Notice to all interested Party(s) of same." He wants to bring John McCain also into the suit and states: "forever barring both Messrs. Barack Hussein Obama and John Sidney McCain III from ever serving in the Office of President of the United States of America"
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http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/obama/intervention.prohibition.htm
Actually, McCain can have certified copies of ALL of his proof of natural-born citizenship documents in the hands of the judge within a few days. At that point, all that his opponent needs to do is exactly the same. A certified copy of Obama’s ACTUAL hospital birth certificate, showing the date, time, and location IN HAWAII of his birth, along with the full name, citizenship, and marital status of his parents. All of these facts bear on the classification of his American citizenship as “natural born.”
Then we need documentation of his mother’s divorce and new marriage, as well has his adoption by his stepfather, a citizen of Indonesia. If he were a natural born citizen, he could reclaim that status by oath before a judge or consular official, and he would have a certificate of citizenship to attest to that oath. It would indicate, as does mine, that it attests to DERIVATIVE citizenship.
However, if he EVER made a claim to citizenship of a different country - for instance, by applying for and receiving a passport from that country as an adult - I believe that he would forfeit his “natural born” derivative claim to American citizenship. And as a result, he would forfeit eligibility for the Presidency.
Berg’s case is well grounded in law or a reasonable argument for an extension thereof. This guy is a lunatic.
This guy needs to spend the remainder of his days in a white suit confined to an institution where he can chase butterflies around the lawn.
This guy needs to spend the remainder of his days in a white suit confined to an institution where he can chase butterflies around the lawn.
***Hmmm, 3 square meals a day, free medical care, all the butterflies you can press into a book... that beats my retirement plan. I think I’ll go ahead and file this lawsuit myself. ;-)
“JM was born to two US citizens on a US military base, he is a citizen. This was gone over and over and rebuffed in 2000”
McCain was born in Colon, Republic of Panama, and not in the Canal Zone.
And yes, it has been gone over and over again and you refuse to learn to read.
“...and his father was on ‘The business of the United States.’ I think military service counts for that.”
No it doesn’t.
“Also he was born in the Canal Zone.”
No he wasn’t.
He was born in Colon, Republic of Panama and not in the Canal Zone.
Colon, Republic of Panama, and the Canal Zone were to different countries.
Actually, he wasn't. He was born in Colon, in the Republic of Panama.
I have a copy of McCain’s birth certificate. He wasn’t born on a military base or in the Canal Zone.
Thank you, EternalVigilance.
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IMO, this is the perfect time to hit his ACORN roots hard. ACORN had a direct and effective role in the sub-prime meltdown, and 0 was an instructor of ACORN leaders.
ACORN leaders incited their members to rush into banks, turn over furniture and refuse to leave, should that the bank had to stop redlining in their neighborhood.
0 taught them, using the Alinsky method..
8 USC §1403. Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904
(a) Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.
(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.
He wasn't born on a US military base. He was born in a Panamanian civilian hospital in the Republic of Panama.
But in either case he is a citizen.
I think that is an interesting question in itself. But it's non-germaine to this matter, since it is not citizenship per se that is at question, but "natural born" status.
McCain would fall under “B” which would make him naturalized, not natural born.
You also might want to post the date that legislation passed.
First, it does not say that. Second USC 8 §1401(g) would also cover McCain specifically because of USC 8 §1401(a)
None of which could make him natural born, after the fact, by definition.
What? Including the part that says “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: “
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