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Son sees father's handiwork in convention (Alinsky's son praises Obama)
The Boston Globe ^ | 31 August 2008 | L. David Alinsky

Posted on 10/05/2008 7:41:37 AM PDT by SE Mom

ALL THE elements were present: the individual stories told by real people of their situations and hardships, the packed-to-the rafters crowd, the crowd's chanting of key phrases and names, the action on the spot of texting and phoning to show instant support and commitment to jump into the political battle, the rallying selections of music, the setting of the agenda by the power people. The Democratic National Convention had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky style.

Barack Obama's training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness. It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well.

I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.

L. DAVID ALINSKY Medfield

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; alinsky; communism; hillaryclinton; obama; praise; radicalleft; saulalinsky; socialism
I sent this to everyone when it was first published- but no one seemed to think it significant. Isn't it about time we start using this as part of the Alinsky/ACORN discussion? Saul Alinsky's OWN SON praises Obama for using his father's tactics.

I was spamming threads on FR with it this morning and thought maybe it needs a thread of its own.

1 posted on 10/05/2008 7:41:38 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Jim Robinson; AliVeritas; Dog; holdonnow; Bahbah; Miss Didi; penelopesire; STARWISE; ...

L. David Alinsky ping.


2 posted on 10/05/2008 7:42:52 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Another cockroach in obama’s closet.


3 posted on 10/05/2008 7:45:09 AM PDT by Need4Truth
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To: Need4Truth

Yes- it is a cockroach- but it’s loaded with eggs. ACORN uses Alinsky’s handbook to train their “community organizers”...and right here- we have a letter from Saul Alinsky’s son praising Obama- in fact praising the whole DNC for its use of Alinsky tactics.


4 posted on 10/05/2008 7:49:00 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Great post. We also have to fight back the MSM line that the Annenberg Challenge was ‘just an education program’ !!

If Americans fall for this stealth marxism, we are doomed.


5 posted on 10/05/2008 7:51:28 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: SE Mom
McCain is clever not to use community organization to boost his campaign because charges that he is following Alinsky will never be leveled at him.

Of course this will cost McCain the election, but you can't have everything.

6 posted on 10/05/2008 7:55:26 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: SE Mom

“That’s not the Saul Alinsky I studied, and studied, and copied, and emulated, and looked up to, and whose principles I re-taught to other minds full of mush at law school and at ACORN!”


7 posted on 10/05/2008 7:56:50 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: penelopesire

Stanley Kurtz was on F & F this morning- he noted that Obama continued shuffling money to Ayers education projects and that by uniform standards- none of the millions of dollars spent resulted in improved education for children.

Alinsky>ACORN>Ayers>Obama...

It’s a web designed to kill freedom..


8 posted on 10/05/2008 7:57:38 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Dammit, I don’t want to be “organized” by a commie Chicago blackliberationist slimeball. We are all perfectly capable of “organizing” our own lives without anybody’s help. Self-reliance, individualism, liberty and the spirit of freedom outweigh a million times over communal living with its shared misery.


9 posted on 10/05/2008 8:02:04 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Rudder

There’s grassroots organizing- and then there’s Alinsky style organizing. They are not one and the same.


10 posted on 10/05/2008 8:02:13 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

I wonder if Sonny boy is aware his dad dedicated his book, “Rules for Radicals”, to the devil.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-clintons-idol-saul-alinsky-and-satan


11 posted on 10/05/2008 8:02:17 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: SE Mom

Whenever Saul Alinsky is mentioned, the accurate descriptor “Marxist” should be appended.


12 posted on 10/05/2008 8:03:48 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: SE Mom

Whenever Saul Alinsky is mentioned, the accurate descriptor “Marxist” should be appended.


13 posted on 10/05/2008 8:03:50 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: SE Mom

The community organizing of mortgage lending worked so well. Obviously we should elect someone who helped push it along to bail out the economy? Go figure.


14 posted on 10/05/2008 8:05:56 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: SE Mom

http://www.countercurrents.org/pringle220508.htm


15 posted on 10/05/2008 8:06:56 AM PDT by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Afronaut

That link is full of great information. EXCELLENT resource- thanks for posting.


16 posted on 10/05/2008 8:08:30 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: All

Blogs for McCain has this up also:

http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/son-communist-organizer-saul-alinsky-praises-democratic-convention-and-obama-campaign-using-his-fath


17 posted on 10/05/2008 8:10:45 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Long term lynch pin is to make them start showing exactly how money spent has improved the situation. Point to how much of the money went to line the pockets of organizers and how much to whatever the problems was which the money was meant to address. Mostly we allow the assumption that money will solve the problem. All they do is talk about money for this program and that one. They worship money. We need to work hard to see if the money=solution assumption is accurate and demand accountability as well as show what other solutions that work better are available.


18 posted on 10/05/2008 8:18:50 AM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: SE Mom

Here’s their bible/get in their face game plan:
http://www.protest.net/activists_handbook/

Follow some of their links. Scary. It may be too late for us.


19 posted on 10/05/2008 8:19:12 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: IM2MAD

Yes- it’s scary- but it’s not too late.

Our task is to expose the facts about Obama, relentlessly, for the next 29 days.


20 posted on 10/05/2008 8:28:02 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Have you seen this:

http://patdollard.com/2008/10/madrassa-kids-sing-of-kenyan-who-will-destroy-great-satan-america-from-within-using-hope-change-video/

Not sure about the site..but if the translation is accurate it is devestating! (foul language alert for site)


21 posted on 10/05/2008 8:35:05 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: AliVeritas

I pinged you here already :) RE-posted for perspective.


22 posted on 10/05/2008 8:35:24 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: penelopesire

Yep- and thanks for the ping- I did see it and have sent it to some folks who may get it translated for sure. It needs to be verified before we send it out.


23 posted on 10/05/2008 8:38:21 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

“It needs to be verified before we send it out.”

Totally agree. Please let me know if you hear back from a translator.


24 posted on 10/05/2008 8:40:26 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

http://www.catholiccitizens.org/news/contentview.asp?c=47897

A more detailed piece about L. David Alinsky here.


25 posted on 10/05/2008 8:42:54 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

I have read the whole piece. This link needs to be passed around. Obama’s people are VERY aware of it’s existence.


26 posted on 10/05/2008 8:48:48 AM PDT by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: SE Mom

“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

—Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals, 1971


27 posted on 10/05/2008 8:49:30 AM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: Afronaut

Yep- I agree.


28 posted on 10/05/2008 8:51:16 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
There’s grassroots organizing- and then there’s Alinsky style organizing. They are not one and the same.

Not to worry, McCain is doing neither.

29 posted on 10/05/2008 8:59:41 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: SE Mom

jveritas says the video at Pat Dollard’s site is a fake in case you missed his post.


30 posted on 10/05/2008 9:22:29 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

Yep- I saw it- I pinged him to it first thing when I saw the thread. It seemed possible but improbable.


31 posted on 10/05/2008 9:23:59 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Bingo.


32 posted on 10/05/2008 9:26:37 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SE Mom

Placemark


33 posted on 10/05/2008 9:32:35 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Sarah: "It was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. " Rich Lowry)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

And there’s this:

http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=9531

After the Academy, ACORN will be hiring qualified candidates for full time community organizer positions in Bridgeport, CT & Hartford, CT

The 3-day training will include:

readings from Alinsky, Chavez (and others)


34 posted on 10/05/2008 9:38:18 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Get ready. They plan to bring this game to Washington, if he wins.
It will be in the schools. They are already trying to brainwash children.
There are plans for a "Nation Service program."

35 posted on 10/05/2008 9:46:43 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SE Mom
Our task is to expose the facts about Obama, relentlessly, for the next 29 days.

That's all well and good, but how does one reach the brainless majority who has absolutely no clue what they're buying when they buy into "hope and change"?

Everything conservative has been so demonized in the MSM....mention "Marxist" and most people don't have a clue. Even "socialist" sounds kind of nice, because they've been led to believe that the free market is the problem here.

What strikes horror in the soul of the informed doesn't have the same effect on the ignorant. That's how the rise of evil leaders has occurred in the past, and will happen to us unless we hit the right nerve--which is ______???

36 posted on 10/05/2008 9:54:17 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (How to make a Dem crazy: Speak softly and carry a big LIPSTICK!!!)
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To: SE Mom

btt


37 posted on 10/05/2008 11:18:45 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SE Mom

uh yah, i would think it would be way important. Obama when connected with acorn, claims only the best of intentions. This not only ties him with acorn, but ties him to the radicalism of the obama camp in a way difficult to wave away.


38 posted on 10/05/2008 12:00:13 PM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI (Mrs. Musher here!)
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To: SE Mom

did you send any of this to hannity? (both articles). dont always watch him because colmes made me want to hurl, but he does seem to be running with everything he can.


39 posted on 10/05/2008 12:04:19 PM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI (Mrs. Musher here!)
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To: CanadianMusherinMI

Yes- I’ve sent it to Hannity, The Corner, HotAir, Human Events, Drudge, FOX NEWS and everyone else under the sun I can think of...

It wouldn’t hurt for them to get more emails either ;)

This letter did come out at the time of the convention- but it’s impact wasn’t felt much because we had the RNC convention so soon- then Palin etc. At this point- since McCain seems somewhat willing to start nailing Obama- and with the rampant corruption of ACORN finally getting SOME mainstream coverage re: sub-prime mortgages and voter fraud- it seems important to show the connection between Alinsky tactics and Obama’s close association with ACORN.


40 posted on 10/05/2008 12:16:43 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

I sent both to hannity. I dont have email addys for the others, but can look them up:)
Have you seen this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Ned5TQoW4 from another thread? Do you think it should be sent to the above? dont think it ties to acorn, but maybe? maybe not so much chicago politics as alinskys way?


41 posted on 10/05/2008 12:28:04 PM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI (Mrs. Musher here!)
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To: SE Mom
Thanks for posting this SE MOM. I started reading this book last week, and it is frightening.

Hannity is doing a show tonight (Hannity's America) exposing Obama's "friends". Hopefully Alinsky's influence will also be revealed since "Rules For Radicals" is Obama's bible!

42 posted on 10/05/2008 12:49:36 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: SE Mom
re: I sent this to everyone when it was first published- but no one seemed to think it significant.)))

He's not a household word for most people. Of course, folks here have known about Alinsky since the early Clinton years.

43 posted on 10/05/2008 3:02:37 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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