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Pressure to Keep the Baby? (Trig Palin and Abortion)
Christian Post ^ | 10/5/08 | R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Posted on 10/07/2008 4:06:03 PM PDT by wagglebee

The public presence of little Trig Palin is a powerful witness to the sanctity of human life, and the knowledge that this little infant with Down syndrome is bringing such joy to his family is upsetting those who believe that babies such as Trig should never be born.

The public presence of little Trig Palin is a powerful witness to the sanctity of human life, and the knowledge that this little infant with Down syndrome is bringing such joy to his family is upsetting those who believe that babies such as Trig should never be born.

The facts are daunting. It is now estimated that between 80 and 90 percent of all unborn babies diagnosed as likely to have Down syndrome are aborted. The availability of prenatal testing presents parents with the possibility of aborting the baby and starting over. The statistics now speak for themselves - the vast majority of parents are choosing to abort under these circumstances.

But the visible presence of Trig Palin in the arms of his parents or one of his sisters is resetting that equation, at least in terms of the public's emotions. The sight of little Piper Palin licking her hand and flattening Trig's hair during their mom's acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention is likely to stick in the public mind years after Trig's hair is again unstuck. It's hard for even the most ardent abortion defenders to insert an argument against Trig's precious life at that point. Or, at least we would think so.

At least one highly-placed source objects to the whole picture. Writing in The Globe and Mail [Toronto], Dr. André Lalonde, executive vice-president of the Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada, explained his worry that other parents might feel pressure to follow the Palins' example.

As the paper explains:

Dr. Lalonde said that above all else, women must be free to choose, and that popular messages to the contrary could have detrimental effects on women and their families.

"The worry is that this will have an implication for abortion issues in Canada," he said.

Taken at face value, the paper seems to be suggesting that a decision to keep the baby contradicts the doctor's assertion that "women must be free to choose." In other words, the only "right" choice would be to abort the baby.

Given the relatively few words quoted from Dr. Lalonde, it is possible that his quote is not fully representative of his position. If this is true, he should certainly make this clear. A look at the Web site of the SOGC indicates that this statement might well be representative of his position.

The group has announced its clear opposition to a proposed Unborn Victims of Crime Act - an act that would allow courts to consider an unborn baby as a victim in assault or murder cases. Such laws are not uncommon in the United States, but the SOGC has taken the position that, once an unborn baby is recognized to have a legal existence and right to live, the entire question of abortion and "reproductive rights" takes on a new frame.

The descent into the Culture of Death is fueled by language such as found here - that a woman might be "pressured to keep the baby" in light of Trig Palin's visibility. At the same time, the inherent evil of such abortions and the slander against humanity represented by the abortion of these babies comes to bright light in Trig Palin's little face.

Maybe Dr. Lalonde and his colleagues are right to be worried. The entire question has been reset by one precious little infant.

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R. Albert Mohler, Jr. is president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. For more articles and resources by Dr. Mohler, and for information on The Albert Mohler Program, a daily national radio program broadcast on the Salem Radio Network, go to www.albertmohler.com. For information on The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, go to www.sbts.edu. Send feedback to mail@albertmohler.com. Original Source: www.albertmohler.com.

Adapted from R. Albert Mohler Jr.'s weblog at www.albertmohler.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; andrlalonde; cultureofdeath; downsyndrome; eugenics; mohler; moloch; moralabsolutes; palin; piper; prolife; sarah; trig; trigpalin
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To: Tax-chick

Convention thread, I mean.


41 posted on 10/08/2008 5:06:39 AM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: ovrtaxt

I think John Adams said one useless man was a disgrace.


42 posted on 10/08/2008 5:07:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: Tax-chick

Maybe so. I’ve run across several incorrect quotes on those quote sites.


43 posted on 10/08/2008 5:09:19 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a Congress. --John Adams)
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To: ovrtaxt

Or it could be a total fiction - I heard it in “1776.”


44 posted on 10/08/2008 5:10:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: P-Marlowe
In more ways than abortion. The United States of America is in the ICU and neither candidate is capable of saving her.
45 posted on 10/08/2008 5:12:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Tax-chick
Thanks for the perspective :)

Sweet children...(ALL of them!.)

Isn't God grand!!

46 posted on 10/08/2008 5:15:06 AM PDT by Guenevere (We will NOT collapse.The New World Order WILL collapse.This is our last chance!)
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To: wagglebee
Trig Palin is a mirror held up to the lives of the women who either have had, or would condone abortion for eugenics reasons. They cannot bear to look at the darkness they see in that reflection, and they despise Sarah Palin for holding that mirror.

That's the only thing I can think of to explain the enormous amounts of hate being spewed her way by the left.

47 posted on 10/08/2008 5:26:46 AM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: Guenevere

Thanks. God has been very generous to us. It makes me want to give the whole world a Guinness and a kitten, so they can all be as happy as I am :-).

(The Guinness is a literary trope, picked up from my Irish FRiends. I am not, in fact, imbibing at this hour. I don’t even like beer, actually. But I do like kittens.)


48 posted on 10/08/2008 5:28:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: Tax-chick; Guenevere
The Guinness is a literary trope, picked up from my Irish FRiends. I am not, in fact, imbibing at this hour.

Though it would help to explain your near-perpetual state of pregnancy! :-)

49 posted on 10/08/2008 5:35:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

My husband is at the office. ;-)


50 posted on 10/08/2008 5:40:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: yldstrk

If you’re over thirty doctors are obliged to tell you that you are at increased risk to carry a Down’s Syndrome baby and that amniocentesis would determine if your baby had it. I have a few regrets about some of my choices in my life but I am so proud of myself that my immediate response to that test was no because I would never abort. I was happy to make that decision two times and both times my doctor said to me “I knew that would be your response.” I’m not gloating, it’s just such an important moral test that I feel I passed with flying colors. God bless our little Trig!


51 posted on 10/08/2008 5:40:53 AM PDT by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: P-Marlowe
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: Deut 30:19

I believe that this election may be our last chance as a nation. God's patience with America is not infinite, and the day will come when Divine forbearance is replaced by Divine justice.

When sinners choose something evil, God's ultimate punishment -- when all warnings have failed and when his patient forbearance has been thrown back in his face -- is to let them have it.

In choosing Obama, we choose death over life for the most innocent and helpless among us. God's punishment for America choosing death will be to give America ... death.

52 posted on 10/08/2008 5:43:33 AM PDT by Campion
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To: crymeariver

When I was expecting my most recent baby, at 39, my OB said, “I have to tell you about the availability of prenatal testing.” I said, “Forget it. Show me where to sign to prove you ‘told’ me.” He said, “Great, I hate having to do that!”


53 posted on 10/08/2008 5:44:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: spectre; redgolum

I read something similar by another “person” on this site who referred to having a baby at a certain age as irresponsible. Comments like that and the things this doctor are quoted as saying are just disgusting.

Anyway, I posted this on another thread but will do it again here too. This organization helps birth moms find a way to keep their babies or finds an adoptive home if that is what she decides. They put information in doctor’s offices.

www.chask.org

This is the sister site that is helpful for parents of kids with special needs:

www.nathhan.org

They take donations online!


54 posted on 10/08/2008 5:47:08 AM PDT by Mrs. P ("Wonder Woman wears Sarah Palin pajamas." - Blood of Tyrants)
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To: Guenevere; Tax-chick; ovrtaxt

Why do you think the teenage daughter got pregnant? I’ll tell you: She was tried of raising her working mother’s children and decided to have her own.

You all need to step away from your personal stories and your strong defensive emotions and take a look at the big picture. Absent mothers and fathers create havoc, destroy the family and will destroy the nation.

It doesn’t matter how well meaning or how hard the children try, they can’t keep families together when mom and/or dad are working all day.

Bad families mean a dying country. That’s what we have now. Godless, fat, medicated, mean, lonely acting-out children. A country with such bad judgment that it may elect Obama.

Obama represents the failure of boomer and then genX mothers and fathers to properly raise their children; and, it is getting worse.

Republicans have so forgotten themselves that they are going to vote for a Feminist, a completely different culture - all to get the mother love their never had because of their working moms.


55 posted on 10/08/2008 10:51:40 AM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: The Feminist ideal comes to fruition in the Republican Party. Betty Friedan laughs.)
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To: donna; Guenevere; Tax-chick; ovrtaxt
Why do you think the teenage daughter got pregnant? I’ll tell you: She was tried of raising her working mother’s children and decided to have her own.

You couldn't be more delusional. This sounds like an Obama talking point.

You all need to step away from your personal stories and your strong defensive emotions and take a look at the big picture. Absent mothers and fathers create havoc, destroy the family and will destroy the nation.

Sarah HAS NOT been absent, maybe YOU should step away from your stereotypes.

It doesn’t matter how well meaning or how hard the children try, they can’t keep families together when mom and/or dad are working all day.

Are you advocating parents not working, should they go on welfare?

Bad families mean a dying country. That’s what we have now. Godless, fat, medicated, mean, lonely acting-out children. A country with such bad judgment that it may elect Obama.

YOU are obviously out of touch with normal Americans.

Obama represents the failure of boomer and then genX mothers and fathers to properly raise their children; and, it is getting worse.

Strange, you seem to be blaming Sarah and not Obama.

Republicans have so forgotten themselves that they are going to vote for a Feminist, a completely different culture - all to get the mother love their never had because of their working moms.

EVERY Republican I know like Sarah because she is a CONSERVATIVE. YOU and your FRiberal ilk are the ones who hate her.

Let's face it, YOU don't hate Sarah because she's a "feminist," you hate her because she represents CONSERVATISM.

56 posted on 10/08/2008 11:20:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Sure, it’s all about me, LOL.


57 posted on 10/08/2008 11:29:54 AM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: The Feminist ideal comes to fruition in the Republican Party. Betty Friedan laughs.)
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To: donna; wagglebee

You didn’t mention how many children you have. Nor did you explain why, if licking your baby’s hair into place is an obvious maternal act, I thought was it was gross.

It is possible to respond to people’s questions and specific points, you know. You don’t have to keep saying the same six things on every single thread.


58 posted on 10/08/2008 1:02:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: donna

Don’t be stupid. It has nothing to do with Sarah being a career mother; it has to do with being a big sister. I know, I was one, and my mom was stay at home and I still took it upon myself to keep my siblings in line and presentable.


59 posted on 10/08/2008 1:08:41 PM PDT by JenB
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To: crymeariver

Heck, I’m twenty-five and had to tell my ob-gyn in no uncertain terms that I didn’t want or need any genetic testing done. These days they try to push it on everyone... had to fight not to have an AIDS test too and the other std tests weren’t even optional. Sheesh.


60 posted on 10/08/2008 1:11:31 PM PDT by JenB
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