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Obama Born in Kenya? His Grandmother says, "Yes!"
Isreal News ^ | Monday, October 13, 2008 | Yonah, Tamar

Posted on 10/15/2008 8:02:30 AM PDT by MadDoctorD

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To: CatOwner
The skeptical part of me says that the papers will show Obama was "born" in Hawaii. Everyone fighting this issue are being set up (or so goes the theory).

I keep seeing this written -- if indeed there is some valid certificate, even if it is Hawaiian, that is NOT the thing he posted to his site, it would not demonstrate we were inventing something and got set up, but rather, would show 0bama has been LYING for months, if not years.

81 posted on 10/15/2008 11:54:34 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Tallguy
You obviously don't remember the firestorm that was created when a Bush-1 State Dept. Employee went rummaging through files looking for details of William Jefferson Clinton's overseas travel to Communist Bloc Nations. If ANYBODY, even the Secretary of State herself, were to question the Messiah on this things would explode.

I'm referring to the Secretary of State at the state level ... the person usually responsible for running elections. The idea would be that the candidate had applied to put his name on the ballot in that state, and the Secretary of State has the responsibility to investigate concerns about eligibility.

Sorry if this was confusing.

82 posted on 10/15/2008 11:58:01 AM PDT by freespirited (We have met the enemy, and he is the MSM.)
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To: Bertram3

My husband was born in Nairobi, Kenya to American citizen parents who were missionaries. His parents registered his birth with the American embassy in Kenya. My husband moved to the U.S. at the age of 16 to finish high school and attend college. At the age of 18, he applied for an FCC license for radio work, and was told he was not a U.S. citizen and, therefore, ineligible.

He was forced to go through the naturalization process to become a citizen. His parents being citizens did not matter, in this case.


83 posted on 10/15/2008 11:59:37 AM PDT by Mother of the Bride
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To: freespirited

gotcha.


84 posted on 10/15/2008 12:04:40 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: peace with honor

No, because McCain loses the election if Barry suddeenly pulls even a fake Hawaiian COLB from his pocket at that moment ... the media would crucify McCain without investigating the authenticity of the COLB don’tchaknow. Remember, Barry flew to Hawaii recently for a ‘vacation’.


85 posted on 10/15/2008 12:08:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Mother of the Bride
Thanks for your post, especially the part about your husband's parents registering his birth at the American embassy in Kenya. I understand why all these folks are trying to tell us to ignore this, quit wasting space, "defeat him on the issues", that this is just a technicality, but it is more than that. It goes to the root of the Rule of Law and I don't care how many people riot and shout racism, if in fact this man has been lying and is not Constitutionally-eligible to stand for office, then he must not be allowed to hold the office, period, end of sentence.

*Even if it means a Biden presidency?*

Yes, even if it means a Biden presidency. The precedent cannot be allowed to be set.

86 posted on 10/15/2008 12:15:23 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Mother of the Bride
It appears that under current law your husband would have only had to file and pay a fee to get citizenship.

The relevant regulations are here

Obama is probably a citizen even if he was born in Kenya. What is not clear is whether he is a natural born citizen and therefore eligible for the presidency. I have been pooh-poohing this notion as a waste of time, but after spending several hours digging into case law, maybe there is something to it after all.

87 posted on 10/15/2008 12:21:05 PM PDT by Bertram3 ("Never give up. Never Give up. Never, never, never, never." Churchill)
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To: Bertram3

I thought it was a waste, too, when it came up several months ago, but I’ve decided that there might be something to it, too. For one, the campaign won’t release the documents needed to put this issue to bed once and for all. I find that troubling.


88 posted on 10/15/2008 1:15:35 PM PDT by twigs
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Apparently three people (including Berg) have copies of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. Also Berg claims that someone did an exhaustive search of Hawaiian birth records and couldn’t find Obama. If these things are true then there is a valid question whether or not he’s a “natural born” citizen.


89 posted on 10/15/2008 1:32:47 PM PDT by webboy45
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To: King of Florida
And even if Obama were born in Kenya, he was born to a U.S. citizen. Which means that he acquired U.S. citizenship at birth himself, and is thus arguably qualified as a "natural born citizen." (Note the use of the word "arguably" -- no one has ever determined one way or another whether someone who is a U.S. citizen at birth but was born on foreign soil is a "natural born citizen.") Plus, if he really were born in Kenya, and then was flown back to the U.S. by his mother, he would have needed a U.S. passport, which he only could have gotten if his mother had obtained a Consular Report of Birth Abroad from the U.S. embassy or consulate in Kenya. That would certainly be readily available to anyone seeking it.

These issues have been covered extensively on FR and other sites.

On every point, you're wrong.

Please educate yourself before you embarrass yourself again.

90 posted on 10/15/2008 2:47:41 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Bertram3
I have been pooh-poohing this notion as a waste of time, but after spending several hours digging into case law, maybe there is something to it after all.

The problem is that the public will not understand the argument, and millions of Obama supporters would never accept the judgement -- even if it came from the Supreme Court. Cities would burn. Therefore, I think nothing will come of this & Obama will have successfully finessed the "natural born citizen" Constitutional requirement.

91 posted on 10/15/2008 3:25:33 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: webboy45

Article now not available at that link. I don’t understand why a judge hasn’t ruled on this. There is clearly an expediency factor.

Can you imagine the mess if he is elected and then found not to have been a US citizen.


92 posted on 10/15/2008 4:42:43 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: MadDoctorD
Watching the Presidential Debate, I just figured it out!

Obama was NOT born in Hawaii!

Obama was NOT born in Kenya!

Obama was NOT born in Canada!

Obama was NOT born in Washington State!

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA was born in The Duchy of Grand Fenwick!

He doesn't speak out of both sides of his mouth; he is Red, and he speaks out of BOTH his beaks!


93 posted on 10/15/2008 7:05:51 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: ApplegateRanch

You list many places, but he’s a hard bird to follow.

Which name did the mother use?

Dunham or Toot

Which country or state did she birth her son?

Although Hawaii has a very closed system for BC research, other states and countries are sometimes more open.


94 posted on 10/16/2008 6:49:06 AM PDT by Gemsbok (Fight voter FRAUD (Acorn)(Obama) and be a poll worker or observer: Get in their face!!!)
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To: MadDoctorD

Someone just sent me this video. It needs to be seen and forwarded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs


95 posted on 10/16/2008 6:56:03 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: MadDoctorD

RUSH IS DISCUSSING THE Mysterious BIRTH CERTIFICATE issue right now.

Kenya, Berg, granny, dual-citizenship, etc. all mentioned.

Cats out of the bag.........


96 posted on 10/23/2008 9:23:50 AM PDT by Gemsbok (Fight voter FRAUD (Acorn)(Obama) and be a poll worker or observer: Beat them at their own game!)
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