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For Obama But Against Abortion
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 17, 2008 | Douglas W. Kmiec

Posted on 10/17/2008 6:00:34 AM PDT by kellynla

Barack Obama has held himself out as a bridge builder across even divisive issues. No topic fits that description more than abortion.

In the final presidential debate Wednesday, Obama had seemingly finished giving his view on abortion when he added these words: Abortion is "always a tragic situation," he said, and we should "try to prevent unintended pregnancies by providing appropriate education to our youth, communicating that sexuality is sacred ... and providing options for adoption and helping single mothers if they want to choose to keep the baby. ... Nobody is pro-abortion. ... We should try to reduce these circumstances."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; kmiec; obama; proaborts
Kmiec should stick to law and leave Catholicism to those of us who abide by it.

Exodus 20:13

1 posted on 10/17/2008 6:00:35 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: Salvation; NYer; narses; A.A. Cunningham

ping


2 posted on 10/17/2008 6:01:11 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
The only reason I can come up with for Kmiec's outrageous position is that he is so in the tank for Obama that he desperately wants to rationalize away Obama's cheerleading for the murder of little babies. Obama's position is so extreme that it must be repugnant to any thinking person.

Either that, or Obama has photos of him in a house of ill-repute .. . .

3 posted on 10/17/2008 6:04:30 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: kellynla; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

Obama Doesn’t Want His Daughters Punished with a Baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg

CNN on Obama’s Infant Born Alive Act Rejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY

Jill Stanek on Obama and Born Alive Infant Protection Act (MUST SEE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Obama Cover-up Revealed On Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Bill

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaCoverup.html

Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc

Babies left to die!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

4 posted on 10/17/2008 6:05:23 AM PDT by narses (http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace)
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To: kellynla

If you don’t like abortions, don’t have That One!


5 posted on 10/17/2008 6:05:43 AM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: kellynla

Seems we are becoming a nation devoid of reason and order. This is the REAL operation Chaos, wonder who is responsible.


6 posted on 10/17/2008 6:15:41 AM PDT by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: kellynla

I pray for his soul. He has embraced evil.


7 posted on 10/17/2008 6:17:48 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (This is no time to go wobbly.)
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To: TonyInOhio

“I pray for his soul. He has embraced evil”.

I’m to a point of thinking he doesn’t have a soul to pray for.


8 posted on 10/17/2008 6:21:46 AM PDT by elder5 (Reelect ROSSI '08)
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To: kellynla

“try to prevent unintended pregnancies by providing appropriate education to our youth”

by which of course Obama means littering schools with condoms, not exactly a Catholic position.....

Kmiec has really gone out on a limb here.


9 posted on 10/17/2008 6:46:51 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: TonyInOhio

The democrat party is evil. Their platform upholds, supports and condones the killing of life in the womb and the destruction of the family through same sex marriages.


10 posted on 10/17/2008 6:48:40 AM PDT by usslsm51
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To: AnAmericanMother

Either that, or Obama has photos of him in a house of ill-repute .. . . “

I’m sure it’s not exactly that. But...considering that Kmiec has deep Chicago roots, and that he was at a large Chicago law firm before beginning his government work, I’m not so sure that Obama and his Chicago boys don’t have some dirt. It sounds incredible. But what Kmiec is saying is also incredible. His reasoning begs for a second guess as to why.

With regards to The Firm, I think that Kmiec was actually at the same firm as Michelle and Bill Ayers’ wife, which is, I think, Sidley Austin? He was there a very long time ago, so I’m not certain of that, but I am beyond a reasonable suspicion. Is it beyond the pale to think that something revolving around The Firm could be at the root of this??


11 posted on 10/17/2008 6:50:55 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: kellynla

“providing appropriate education to our youth” in my day this was done at HOME. We were told it was WRONG amd that is was Killing a Life. Somehow, we understood.


12 posted on 10/17/2008 6:52:20 AM PDT by usslsm51
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To: ConservativeDude
Those were the lines I was thinking along.

The southern expression for having dirt on somebody generally is having photos of someone in a house of ill repute. The actual original phrase is completely politically incorrect as well as obscene and can't be even THOUGHT of any more, so I cleaned it up.

13 posted on 10/17/2008 6:57:28 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

As incredible as it seems, such a scenario sort of has the ring of truth about it, doesn’t it? Obama’s people are thugs, so I’m sure they have good on a lot of folks.


14 posted on 10/17/2008 6:59:22 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude
Chicago politics.

Have no experience of it, but small town Southern politics can be just as vicious and dirty.

My dad never ran for office, but he was a campaign manager quite often. As David Balfour says in the book of the same name (it's by R.L. Stevenson and a rousing good read), "I had seen politics from behind, where it is all bones and blackness."

15 posted on 10/17/2008 7:02:03 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Read “All the King’s Men” by Robert Penn Warren?

That’s an incredible novel and remember how they say that you can find dirt on anyone?


16 posted on 10/17/2008 7:37:13 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude
And if you can't find it, you can just make it up.

E.g. Joe the Plumber - he's "unlicensed" but he's working for a licensed business so he doesn't HAVE to have a license. Done absolutely nothing wrong but got slimed anyhow.

17 posted on 10/17/2008 7:44:25 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: kellynla

Cant’ remember where I read it but this statement is so true:

Whenever there is a compromise between good and evil, evil always wins.

There is no compromise when it comes to abortion. The way to prevent millions of them is to make them illegal. I can tell you from experience both from my own and from millions of women who are voicing their regret through “Silent No More Awareness” that the fact that abortion is legal made the abortion easy to obtain, inexpensive and gave it an aura of rightness.


18 posted on 10/17/2008 7:47:53 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Wednesday night McCain could have explained 0bamas promise to sign the Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA). It’s on tape. 0bama promised at a Planned Parenthood convention that the first thing he would do as president is overturn every pro-life law in all 50 states, including the Partial Birth Abortion ban, parental notification and consent. That’s what FOCA would do.

McCain could have closed with explaining that 0bama’s FOCA promise is proof that 0bama’s “common ground on abortion” is just more lies and BS.

0bama and his pathetic looser, Traitor Kmiec would have been hard pressed to spin on that.

Barack Obama’s Pledge to Overturn Every Pro-Life Abortion Law One Year Old http://www.lifenews.com/nat4070.html

Barack Obama’s “Freedom of Choice Act” Would Mean 125K More Abortions http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2089733/posts

Barack Obama Takes a Subtle But Deadly Approach to Advocating Abortion http://www.lifenews.com/nat3762.html

As good as McCain did Wednesday night, he missed a tremendous opportunity to prove 0bama’s lies and rabid lust for abortion.

Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

19 posted on 10/17/2008 10:59:21 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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A Politician’s Promise: No Right to Life! No Freedom! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2106219/posts


20 posted on 10/17/2008 11:04:55 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
I have heard every commentator on FOCA say that it will overturn all those incremental state and local laws, regulations and restriction which aim to protect women and children from abortion ain any way. That would be parental notification and consent; informed consent; conscientious objector protection for health care providers, individuals or institutions, who refuse to participate in abortions, etc. All overthrown at a stroke.

But how can this be? How cn you overturn state laws in all 50 states without a Constitutional amendment, or --- lacking that --- a new Supreme Court Decision, "Roe vs Wade Stalinique" --- which in effect overrides every state and local jurisdiction?

The Philosopher Kings of the USSC could presume to do it. But how can Congress do it? Woudn't it be unconstitutional?

Can somebody explain how that works?

21 posted on 10/17/2008 12:33:45 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just pray for a tough hide and a tender heart." Ruth Graham)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Here’s the FOCA legislation: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2108160/posts?page=12#12

See my * 13 that follows.


22 posted on 10/17/2008 4:33:33 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: kellynla
According to Wikipedia, Kmiec was denied communion by his Priest. But then later the Priest was repremanded by the Bishop of Los Angeles, Roger Mahony. What was Mahony thinking??? The Priest did the right thing.
23 posted on 10/18/2008 7:48:16 AM PDT by bdeaner
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To: kellynla
According to Wikipedia, Kmiec was denied communion by his Priest. But then later the Priest was repremanded by the Bishop of Los Angeles, Roger Mahony. What was Mahony thinking??? The Priest did the right thing.
24 posted on 10/18/2008 7:48:16 AM PDT by bdeaner
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To: kellynla
To believe Zero on this, you have to believe his words to the masses and ignore all his actions and words to abortion supporters.
25 posted on 10/18/2008 7:56:59 AM PDT by edge10
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