High Noon in Hawaii: Barack Obama and Andy Martin collide in the Aloha State

Contrarian Commentary ^ | 10/21/2008 | Andy Martin

[Kevmo]

Lots of people claiming they know lots of stuff and have lots of evidence, but the one thing in common they all have is none of them have disclosed any of it.
***Bump & borrow that

[ballplayer]

A whole article that says nothing

[HutchKeeper]

bttt

[counterpunch]

I think nothing is going to come from any attempts to disqualify 0bama.
Perhaps decades or more from now the truth that 0bama was disqualified may surface.
But we have a two-party system, and preserving the appearance of its integrity is more vital to our national interest than preserving its actual integrity. The truth of 0bama’s ineligibility, if it is true, will be covered up and protected by both sides for that reason.

If 0bama suddenly becomes disqualified on the eve of the election, all hell would break loose, and all the Powers That Be understand that and will act in concert to prevent it from happening.

As for what is going to happen on Election Day, I believe that America is really not as unfamiliar as the press would like it to seem. I think that the election polls will reveal the country that we all know America is, just as they always do. The final vote will sweep away a season of lies and misdirection from the news media, just as it does every election. It will be closer than it should have been, but McCain will prevail.

[exhaustedmomma]

When I first heard Obama was suspending his campaign to visit his ailing g'ma in Hawaii, I have to admit, my eyebrows raised. First thoughts, well isn't that a convenient way to get public sympathy and tone-down negativity that's pulling down his "big lead." Point is, initial gutt feeling was that this was fishy and calculated. Then I started feeling bad... what if his g'ma really was sick? Point again, most people out there in voting land are probably going to feel the same way.

More I think about it, the more questions I ask myself. Like, why would this guy "announce" this ahead of time? I mean, he attracts record numbers wherever he goes. Unheard of numbers, mind-boggling numbers (stuff I hear them say on the tube about the "numbers" of people swarming to him.) Why wouldn't he just stealth in quietly to see her, attend to her, and then announce where he was and/or had been? Why announce it ahead of time and risk the "swarming"? Unless the swarm is wanted.

Honestly, I think people really trying to process this whole crazy campaigning season will be muddling through this stuff in some like manner. It is an odd "announcement."

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[counterpunch]

But what about the possibility that Obama was fronted knowing he could not legally hold the office but That Hillary would not stand during the campaign. Would it be possible for him to drop out then put her in his place at the last moment saying she should be his replacement do to her standing in the primary.

Yes, but only if 0bama win a clear majority of electors and then the Democrats manage to get at least 270 of them to unite in supporting Hillary.

Remember, when we vote for president, we are not actually voting for a candidate or presidential ticket, but actually the slate of delegates their party in that state chooses to cast a vote in the electoral college. We elect the electors, not the candidates, and those electors vote for the candidate they were elected to elect. However, there is nothing that actually compels them to vote in any particular way.

This is why 0bama is in great danger from Clinton loyalists, and McCain is in danger from Ron Paul renegades or Huckabites in the South.
 

[sonofagun]

I have a sneaking suspicion that this:

Andy is the author of Obama: The Man Behind The Mask, published in July 2008, see http://www.OrangeStatePress.com.

is the impetus for these Hawaii posts.

[exhaustedmomma]

PING

Have you heard anything about this?

Thanks in advance for any input you can add!

Regards- em

[blf1776]

Andy Martin might have something, but is willing to drop it for the right price.

[Heartland Mom]

If this Andy Martin had the truth - he would be on tv with the whole story, making money, and taking Zero down. I think he may be close - hence the Bambi reunion, but I don't think he has anything substantial.

[Robert DeLong]

This is another I'll believe it when I see it.

Martin ssems to promise a lot but delivers little to nothing so far from what I have seen on his site.

[FBD]

good summary of allegations

[rusureitflies?]

“put up or shut up.”
got that right. these “copy and paste” writers should be suspect... if Andy M is for real he has a target on his forehead and the deceit of o-h-b knows no bounds. he will pay for what he and socialist thugs want like,
setting things up to make Andy M the fool...

[nuvista]

This doesn’t make any sense. In the scenario this guy proposed, how would a presidential candidate surreptitiously show up in a courtroom? Why would he go to Hawaii personally, even if there was some legal fight - he’s got a veritable army of lawyers at his disposal.
I’m not a lawyer and didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express!
Can someone make any sense of this?

[Scotswife]

“THEY NEVER PAN OUT!”

And Andy Martin does not instill confidence.

Ahh well - maybe one of these days something somewhere will stick.

I still wonder how Bill & Hill were able to shake off Whitewater.

[Cricket24]

Sounds like Barry’s Grandma may not be with us very long. It sounds like she’s on her deathbed.

[hot_tea]

I just heard on the radio WABC that Obama’s half sister is the one who called Obe and told him he better come to Hawaii because the grandmother’s very ill. Hmmmmm

[hot_tea]

This just in on the radio, Obama’s half sister called Obe and told him he better come to Hawaii right away cause grandmother might die.

[counterpunch]

It doesn’t make much sense, aside from 0bama possibly having to personally show up on his own behalf to ask the court not to unseal his birth certificate.

If this is the case, which is of course a big ‘if’, then perhaps 0bama is counting on the media to maintain the blackout on all matters relating to his birth certificate controversy. If 0bama shows up in a court room, and no one in the media reports it, did it really ever happen? Perhaps he’s counting on just that. And I suspect his faith in the media’s continued complicity is well placed.

[counterpunch]

Sounds like Barry’s Grandma may not be with us very long. It sounds like she’s on her deathbed.

Perhaps she knows too much...