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Obama spells 'persecution,' warns Focus on the Family
World Net Daily ^ | 10/22/08 | Art Moore

Posted on 10/23/2008 7:23:33 AM PDT by truthandlife

What would America look like after four years of an Obama administration?

"Hardship," "persecution" and "suffering" are among the prospects in a hypothetical letter from a "Christian from 2012" released today by evangelical leader James Dobson's political activist group Focus on the Family Action.

Titled "Letter from 2012 in Obama’s America," the piece clearly targets the many evangelical Christians seeking "change," particularly the young, who could tip the election in favor of the Illinois Democrat . At the end of the letter, the fictional Christian laments that these people "simply did not realize Obama's far-left agenda would take away many of our freedoms as a nation, perhaps permanently," pointing to a new, liberal-majority Supreme Court unlikely to change for 30 more years.

"I get tears in my eyes and a lump in my throat," says the fictional writer. "Now in October of 2012, after seeing what has happened in the last four years," America is no longer "the land of the free and the home of the brave."

"Many of our freedoms have been taken away by a liberal Supreme Court and a majority of Democrats in both the House and the Senate, and hardly any brave citizen dares to resist the new government policies any more," the letter writer says.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 2008; antichrist; atheisim; bloat; christiannation; christianvote; churchstate; dobson; evangelicals; fairnessdoctrine; fotf; homosexualagenda; jefferson; obama; persecution; religiousfreedom; stockpile; stockpilesong
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To: truthandlife
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21 posted on 10/23/2008 7:43:45 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (Joe Biden: The Michael Scott of politics)
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To: Natchez Hawk

Not allowing teachers to profess faith or beliefs, removal of 10 commandments monuments, removal of crosses from public places, disallowing students from reading the Bible during free reading time, suspending kids for praying before lunch.

You have to be WILLFULLY ignorant to not recognize the anti-Christian movement in America. The ACLU is at the forefront.

“80% of the US Population is Christian” and the sun came up today - what do either one have to do with the reality of religious persecution?


22 posted on 10/23/2008 7:45:13 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: G.Mason

All the seeds of a conflict that would be planted and the harvest a bloody second civil war.


23 posted on 10/23/2008 7:47:11 AM PDT by Biggirl (Throw The Bums OUT!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: truthandlife

It is great Dobson is finally waking up. Hopefully it isn’t too little or too late.


24 posted on 10/23/2008 7:47:18 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Maelstorm

EVERY Christian must read this letter:

Letter from a Christian in 2012 in Obama’s America


25 posted on 10/23/2008 7:50:19 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Natchez Hawk

Christians are viewd as freaks by a lot of pagans and devil worshipers in the US


26 posted on 10/23/2008 7:53:12 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: MrB

And people are allowed to put forth other religious (Non-Christian) beliefs in school/public places?

No, of course they’re not.

If you want to see “persecution against Christians” try Red China, Burma, Israel/Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Congo, Syria, well you get the point.


27 posted on 10/23/2008 7:53:49 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (Haider was a drunken, suicidial, sad, gay man. At least he lived up to his idol...)
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To: Natchez Hawk

More like 20% the rest have no affiliation


28 posted on 10/23/2008 7:54:01 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: G.Mason

Do you think the following Biden Presidency would be any better?


29 posted on 10/23/2008 7:54:24 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Natchez Hawk

I guess you missed all the hubbub about Islam being taught in public schools.

Does Google work for you, or is it broken?


30 posted on 10/23/2008 7:56:40 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: yldstrk

So “pagans and devil worshipers” viewing Christians as ‘freaks’ is persecution?

How many pagans and devil worshipers are out there?
Examples?

In America I suspect somebody who declared themself to be a pagan or devil worshiper (have not met either) would be considered the freak.

And I think you know that to be the case as well.


31 posted on 10/23/2008 7:56:46 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (Haider was a drunken, suicidial, sad, gay man. At least he lived up to his idol...)
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To: green iguana

No ... hopefully he will get lost in the shuffle.


32 posted on 10/23/2008 7:57:27 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: truthandlife

Christian persecution will happen. It may not get into full swing under Obama but, then again, it could. It won’t be couched in terms of open hostility to Christians but will instead come in the form of “hate crime” laws and civil rights laws. The mechanism is simple: declare certain behaviors that have been condemned consistently by the Christian sects to now be “rights”. These “rights” will trump any and all rights actually stated in our Constitution (an outdated document created by Eurocentric white men many of whom were slave owners). The resulting “hate crime” and civil rights laws will be used to force Christian churches to uphold the new “rights” and fines and jail time will result for any who openly oppose these. Any individual who dares speak out against the new “rights” will have the coercive power of the state exercised against him to muzzle the dissent.

This is already happening in Europe and Canada and there have been a couple of cases in the U.S. (the photographer in Arizona who declined a job to photograph a homosexual “wedding” comes immediately to mind). Also I have read that in Massachusets the new “right” of homosexual marriage is being used to club Christians into submission to the complete “normalization” of homosexuality including the coercion of churches in providing wedding ceremonies to homosexuals and allowing the adoption of children by homosexual couples (which has resulted in many Church adoption services shutting down in the state).

Things are happening pretty quickly these days. The effort to “tame” the Christian sects may pick up a lot of steam in a short amount of time.


33 posted on 10/23/2008 7:59:43 AM PDT by scory
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To: truthandlife
I fear there is an awful lot of truth in Dr. Dobson's letter.

The "change" we are going to get is not what 75% of the country envisions. Once we turn over the entire government to the extremist RATs, however, there will be no going back.

We have never had a nominee as radical as this one, and the world is a far more dangerous place than ever before. I pray for our country's survival.

34 posted on 10/23/2008 7:59:52 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Natchez Hawk

“Oh right, the myth of Christian persecution in the United States...”

With all due respect, what do you think the ultimate goal of the PC movement is? Teachers in this nation are NOT ALOUD to teach intelligent design even as a theory!

Our founding documents are laced with references to God and Divine guidance, and yet since the MYTH of Separation of Church and State entered our culture (not law, it’s not there), the ACLU attacks anyone who dares mention these things in a teaching setting. Don’t tell me it’s a MYTH.


35 posted on 10/23/2008 8:02:53 AM PDT by GWMcClintock (Right after Lib Democrats, the most dangerous politicians are country club Republicans. T. Sowell)
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To: scory
Christian persecution will happen. It may not get into full swing under Obama but, then again, it could.

Agree 100%.

While the MSM, Hollywood, and most liberals detest Christianity, at this point, we are free to practice our religion as we see fit.

The handwriting is on the wall though. The persecution is coming.

Let the liberals gain one net seat on the Supreme Court, and freedom of religion as it is currently understood becomes a relic of the past.

36 posted on 10/23/2008 8:03:36 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: truthandlife
While some of the letter's dire predictions are less likely several are very much on target. $7 per gallon gasoline by 2012 is almost certain under Obama and the Democrat Congress' no drill, windfall tax on oil companies and new carbon tax policies. The reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine will surely kill talk radio as we know it and look for extensions of the Fairness Doctrine to be applied to Internet blogs, cable TV and satellite radio. Rush, Hannity and other conservative programming will have to go offshore through the Internet, short wave radio and with radio stations in Mexico and Canada. By 2012 double digit inflation and unemployment will the norm. Obama's appease and retreat foreign policy will result in the fall of Iraq and embolden terrorists to strike again on US soil. Iran will have nuclear weapons and threaten all out nuclear war with Israel.

Fortunately, the Republicans would have a chance to take back Congress in 2010 and by 2012 the White House.

37 posted on 10/23/2008 8:04:54 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: MrB

So Islam is taught in a history class, therefore a teacher should be able to talk about their religious beliefs.

I really don’t think you would like that.

An example.

Would you like a Calvinist trying to convert your child?
What about a Catholic? Jehovahs’ Witness? Southern Baptist? Methodist? Mormon? Presbyterian? Lutheran? Jewish? Eastern Orthodox? Greek Orthodox? Pentecostal? A.M.E.? Black Muslim? Maronite? Unitarian? How about the Moonies, do you want them ‘educating’ your children.

I’m sure one (if not most) of these religions are objectionable in some way to your religious principles...

So what brand of Christianity would be acceptable to you?


38 posted on 10/23/2008 8:05:14 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (Haider was a drunken, suicidial, sad, gay man. At least he lived up to his idol...)
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To: truthandlife; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Sam's Army; Rutles4Ever; Dubya's fan
Folks, this is one heck of a letter. Being 16 pages long, if you decide to skim, please see pg 10 on Military Policy and 14 Prosecution of former Bush administration officials.

This is what we're up against.

Good work outta you truthandlife.
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Owl_Eagle

There are people who are surrounded by bigots
and know it is wrong, but are afraid to be vocal against it.
These people are going to pull the lever for Obama
and they are not being polled.
angee_is_mad, DUmmy

39 posted on 10/23/2008 8:07:53 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: G.Mason

not too far fetched, except for the removal from office part. Instead, martial law will probably be imposed upon the citizenry.


40 posted on 10/23/2008 8:07:53 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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