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Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth'...real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months'
WND ^ | October 23, 2008

Posted on 10/23/2008 10:30:22 PM PDT by Red Steel

The Pennsylvania Democrat who has sued Sen. Barack Obama demanding he prove his American citizenship – and therefore qualification to run for president – has confirmed he has a recording of a telephone call from the senator's paternal grandmother confirming his birth in Kenya.

The issue of Obama's birthplace, which he states is Honolulu in 1961, has been raised enough times that his campaign website has posted an image purporting to be of his "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii.

But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged and that he has a tape recording he will soon release.

"This has been a real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months," Berg told Savage. "I'll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States."

He said the telephone call was from Obama's paternal grandmother affirming she "was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."

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Three, be a natural-born citizen. He is not."

Obama campaign officials acknowledged the dispute by posting the image purporting to be a copy of his certification of live birth earlier this year. But they've declined to return WND requests for comment...

WND reported earlier this week Berg's claim that Obama has legally "admitted" the accusations included in his lawsuit, including that he was born in Mombosa, Kenya, by not responding to the allegations.

Berg has cited Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alienobama; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; obama; obamagate; obamaisgoingdown; obamatruthsquad
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To: Klepto
“Pity we can’t focus on facts...”

You're funny. You make me laugh. The real pity is your inability to understand that if there was no story here the MSM would have killed it off long ago. Yet it lives. The other real pity is your ignorance of FactCheck.org. But you've only been here a few days so perhaps you can educate yourself.

121 posted on 10/24/2008 7:44:47 AM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
These are Democrats we are talking about here. To them the Constitution is only a speed bump.

Does sort of make interesting Clinton's response when asked about Obama's qualifications as President.

122 posted on 10/24/2008 7:49:39 AM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: dsc
I don’t know what the law was in 61, but a child born overseas to a US citizen today can derive citizenship from parentage.

That would be generally correct, however, in 1961 Obama's mother was not yet 18 and his father was not a citizen. Under those circumstances citizen would not inure to him automatically.

123 posted on 10/24/2008 7:53:20 AM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: XR7
Race riots, you say?

Let the Obamabots all have a whiff of the grape if they get violent.


124 posted on 10/24/2008 8:04:27 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Red Steel
Just a wild thought but anyone willing to gamble that within hours of Berg's allegations going mainstream we hear from the Obama campaign that his real daddy is Frank Marshall Davis.

Sure, Davis is an admitted communist but he at least has the benefit of: a) being dead and, therefore, unable to refute the allegation and, b:) he was a US citizen and that closes the book on this issue.

125 posted on 10/24/2008 8:06:26 AM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: Unkosified

lets see...

Michelle Whitey Tape

Obama Grandmother Tape

Seems Berg is wrapped up in Tape

YAWN...got so excited I almost fell asleep


126 posted on 10/24/2008 8:11:23 AM PDT by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: JrsyJack

I had a weird thought too. Maybe there is a grandma tape and O really isn’t a US citizen. If that’s true, I don’t think he’d be able to step foot back in this country.
Thus the trip to Hawaii.
What faster way to get out of the country than to already be off the mainland?

Would also explain why it took him three days to plan. If he has to leave the country, he’d have to plan for a new pilot and copilot and figure out how to duck the secret service if he wants to leave Hawaii without them.

Would also explain why Michelle and the girls didn’t go with him. Someone would have to stay here to sell the house and take care of other details.

Far fetched? Maybe. But something weird is going on with this Hawaii trip.


127 posted on 10/24/2008 9:09:39 AM PDT by Unkosified (What do Osama and Obama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: Red Steel

Conservative media figures allege Obama’s Hawaii trip is about discredited birth-certificate rumors, not his ailing grandmother

http://mediamatters.org/items/200810230020?f=h_popular


128 posted on 10/24/2008 9:12:17 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: JMack
Bingo!

Put nothing past Hillary!™ NOTHING!!!

129 posted on 10/24/2008 10:16:46 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: John Leland 1789
Has anyone sought these records at the U.S. State Department?

Right to privacy laws and concerns about identity theft prevent the State Department from releasing this info to non-family members.

130 posted on 10/24/2008 10:21:25 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: AU72
Assuming Barry was born in Honolulu on April whatever 1961, would not that happy event be found in newspaper archives under birth announcements?

A blurry copy of an alleged announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser has been released, by 0bama cronies.

Oddly not a single Hawai'ian FReeper has managed to get of his or her butt to schlep down to the Honolulu Advertiser's offices to verify that this isn't another forgery. NOT ONE!

We are left taking Göbbles word that Hitler is a nice guy.

*grrrrr*

131 posted on 10/24/2008 10:29:20 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: 3D-JOY
Almost no matter what we prove to our satisfaction I believe that no court will rule in a way that will cause so much anger and disruption in the country. Can you imagine it? Can you imagine his admitting it and withdrawing?

If this goes to the courts and it is conclusively found that Obama is ineligible for the Presidency and the courts still let him ascend to the office, then it will be time for the citizenry to "water the tree of liberty" as the rule of law will have been dispensed with and tyranny imposed.

132 posted on 10/24/2008 11:03:04 AM PDT by Surtur (Snake Plisskin for President, or Palin-Nugent 2012)
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To: AU72
Here it is in black and white:

Is it real? We trust the democrats who published it, don't we???

133 posted on 10/24/2008 11:05:34 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
You know at this point I think Obama could commit homicide in Times Square at high noon and the media would find a way to spin it for him and against John McCain.

From What kind of people vote a month before the campaign ends?:

These people were making such well-informed decisions that none of them said they were nervous that something would happen before the election to make them regret their vote. "Obama would have to eat a baby onstage with condiments and not wash his hands after," one told me. Another thought about my question for a minute and said, "Nothing could happen that I couldn't rationalize."

134 posted on 10/24/2008 11:16:15 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: John Valentine

You’d think his website would drop the fake.


135 posted on 10/24/2008 11:29:27 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: null and void
Things that make you go Hmmmmm.

On Sunday, August 13th, 1961, the eyes of America were on the nation's capital, where Roger Maris was hitting home runs #44 and 45 against the Senators. On that same day, without any warning, the East German Communists sealed off the border between East and West Berlin.

136 posted on 10/24/2008 12:11:45 PM PDT by JrsyJack
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To: XR7

Granny’s a Kenyan, in Kenya.


137 posted on 10/24/2008 12:24:06 PM PDT by PghBaldy (10/19 Zogby poll is a TOSS-UP diff < Margin of Error!!! Obama halves Ind support!!!)
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To: JrsyJack

“That would be generally correct, however, in 1961 Obama’s mother was not yet 18 and his father was not a citizen. Under those circumstances citizen would not inure to him automatically.”

I see. Thank you.


139 posted on 10/24/2008 1:25:42 PM PDT by dsc
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To: null and void

“One parent does not suffice for US citizenship.”

I’m afraid you’re mistaken on that one.


140 posted on 10/24/2008 1:29:19 PM PDT by dsc
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