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Ghilarducci interviewed on plan to socialize 401(k) plans (instant Mark Levin classic)
MarkLevinFan.com ^ | October 27, 2008 | Sgt Tim

Posted on 10/28/2008 3:37:05 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim

Mark Levin interviewed Professor Teresa Ghilarducci whose plan for the U.S. government to take over private pension plans to "protect retirees" is being touted by Congressman Barney Frank. This interview will go down as classic Mark Levin. (She is voting for Barack Obama. Go figure).

"You pick your crooks," Dr. Ghilarducci said. No ma'am; we elect them.

Mark got it right. This scheme infuses funds into Social Security, with fear during the current shakey stock market as the motivator. Yet if you think about what Dr. Ghilarducci said during an earlier interview, you realize it creates an even bigger unfunded government liability for future generations to pay, sort of a double-down on Social Security.

Q: Is there any chance the federal government might take over private pension plans to protect retirees, as Argentina is considering?

A: Some in Congress have begun discussions about how U.S. workers could be guaranteed more security but still see some growth in their retirement funds. The House Committee on Education and Labor is holding hearings on the issue.

On Oct. 7, they heard testimony from Teresa Ghilarducci, an economics professor from The New School for Social Research in New York. She proposed a radical, short-term fix, where 401(k) plans would be turned over to a guaranteed retirement account composed of government bonds earning a 3 percent annual return, adjusted for inflation.

When workers begin collecting Social Security, the account would pay them an inflation-adjusted annuity, based on the accumulated funds. For example, a 55-year-old worker with $50,000 in a 401(k) account in August would swap out the $50,000 for a guarantee of $500 per month in retirement.

Q: What about a long-term solution?

A: Chilarducci proposed the creation of universal guaranteed retirement accounts in which the federal government invests $600 for every worker. Workers would put 5 percent of their pay in and the account would earn a guaranteed 3 percent rate of return, plus inflation. The cost of this plan would be offset by doing away with most tax breaks currently offered on 401(k) accounts, so the government wouldn't have to pay any more than it does now. The accounts would be safer and guarantee all workers an income during retirement.

Q: What are the chances one of these proposals will be implemented?

A: That's probably not very likely right now -- but if they get backed by enough political will, who knows? There certainly is a groundswell of concern over the current system, considering that many workers have lost half of their retirement funds in the stock market.

Something to keep in mind, though: In the current system, trillions of dollars are invested in accounts managed by some very large companies -- and they'll fight any attempt to take away their retirement fund business.

We can't have businesses making money, being greedy capitalists, not in Barack Obama's America.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008election; barackobama; barneyfrank; democrat; democrats; electionpresident; frank; ghilarducci; levin; marklevin; obama; socialism; taxes
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Dr. Ghilarducci is affable yet foolish. Her plan socializes private pensions for the middle class and kicks an even bigger Social Security can down the same road. 50k at 55 gets you an extra $500 a month at retirment, adjusted for inflation during part one. In part two, you pay extra to get Social Security plus but at a low, fixed rate of growth, backed by the “full faith and credit” of the United States. The government will throw you back a slightly bigger bone (the one your hard work dug up and you faithfully brought to them) and each annual increase for inflation will also likely get sucked up by ever increasing Mediacre co-pays. How comforting — not.

Franks and company would love to see that initial rush of converted 401(k’s) come in. They’d run to the nearest microphone and claim, “Look! We saved Social Security!” but Congress would spend those funds now. (’Change’ comes with a hefty price tag). The burden on workers paying for retired baby boomers would accelerate in a few years. When the Social Security and Medicare bubbles burst, they will make the Fannie and Freddie bailout look like chump change.

1 posted on 10/28/2008 3:37:05 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim
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To: Just Lori; TheForceOfOne; SilvieWaldorfMD; Tennessee Nana; ThreePuttinDude; eastsider; del4hope; ..

Mark Levin ping!


2 posted on 10/28/2008 3:37:43 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

bookmark


3 posted on 10/28/2008 3:45:00 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sergeant Tim

I wish Levin had had another ten minutes to complete the job of taking this woman apart completely.


4 posted on 10/28/2008 3:47:13 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Thank you, Sergeant!


5 posted on 10/28/2008 3:49:35 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Sergeant Tim

The annuity ends when you die. The 401K fund doesn’t.


6 posted on 10/28/2008 4:02:03 AM PDT by listenhillary
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To: Sergeant Tim
Teresa Ghilarducci


7 posted on 10/28/2008 4:05:15 AM PDT by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

I think it would have a big impact on this race if McCain were to get endorsed by Suze Orman. She has already said she does not like the sound of proposed tax increases. She tells her viewers and fans how to save and make money, not lose it. Although I don’t think she is a conservative, Suze wants to see Americans prosper and make money, not have it taxed away. I think the McCain camp ought to seek her endorsement.

I was surprised on one show when Suze said she favored a flat tax too. Sounds more Republican than Democrat to me!


8 posted on 10/28/2008 4:10:03 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Sergeant Tim
It's one thing to throw around these socialist, anti-capitalist ideas amoung academia. It's a totally different thing for an extreme, vile, arrogant, poofter congressman to actually be considering socializing free market ideas which have been tested and tried, because of ONE downturn his ilk caused?!. Someone need to tell greasy lips, if you would have stuck your money in a bank savings account people would have more money to retire on today than they do social security!

For goodness sakes people we had a bloody revolution for much less than what is happening in this great country today!

9 posted on 10/28/2008 4:10:46 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: Sergeant Tim

That was hilarious. Classic Levin indeed! Thanks for posting!


10 posted on 10/28/2008 4:12:51 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Jim DeMint: "If you took the name off the top, the Senate could pass the Communist Manifesto.")
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To: Sergeant Tim

Thanx for the ping Tim - I heard the interview last night.

Mark rolled her real good.


11 posted on 10/28/2008 4:12:51 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An inadequately policed Conservative)
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To: listenhillary
"The annuity ends when you die. The 401K fund doesn’t

401(k) funds don't die so Congress wants to kill them, actually kill the deferred tax break that helped create a senior middle-class.

Aha! Those old folks were getting mighty uppity. And if middle-class younger folks were allowed to keep thinking their financial futures did not solely depend upon government, they might start voting for conservative government that believes in the free market.

12 posted on 10/28/2008 4:13:47 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: TNCMAXQ; Sean Hannity

I think it would make a bigger impact on the race if they ran commercials asking if B.O. supported seizing 401K funds.

Also nail down if B.O. will go on record regarding the Bush tax cuts. Will they be allowed to expire? Yes or no?


13 posted on 10/28/2008 4:14:08 AM PDT by listenhillary
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To: sirchtruth
For goodness sakes people we had a bloody revolution for much less than what is happening in this great country today!

And we'd better start talking revolution again. Put a bug in the ears of the socialists that we, the people, will NOT tolerate theft of our earnings.

14 posted on 10/28/2008 4:20:46 AM PDT by meyer (The second amendment is NOT about hunting)
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To: listenhillary

GUILTY!


15 posted on 10/28/2008 4:30:30 AM PDT by GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco (I love liberals. They taste like chicken.)
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To: meyer
And we'd better start talking revolution again. Put a bug in the ears of the socialists that we, the people, will NOT tolerate theft of our earnings.

Spot on!

16 posted on 10/28/2008 4:30:37 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Sergeant Tim
When the Social Security and Medicare bubbles burst, they will make the Fannie and Freddie bailout look like chump change.

When the Social Security and Medicare bubbles burst, the up-and-coming generations -- who learned that respect for life is nothing -- will gleefully practice euthanasia on their parents, and harvest them for organs.

And the current crop of boomers -- who started the love of death culture in 1973 and kept it going at all costs -- will have the nerve to look surprised. "All of that 'might makes right' was only meant to apply while *we* were on top!" they will squeal.

No cheers, unfortunately.

17 posted on 10/28/2008 4:39:57 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

This makes me happy I graduated from The New School. /s


18 posted on 10/28/2008 4:53:23 AM PDT by zkbeta51
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To: Sergeant Tim

What I don’t like about 401K accounts is that the taxes are deferred until you withdrawl the money. You are betting that the tax rates will be the same or lower at retirement. With the govt going more and more socialist, you can bet the tax rates that you will be paying on the withdrawls will be a lot higher than today. I would rather pay the taxes on the money now and let my fund grow and not have the proceeds taxed at all on retirement.


19 posted on 10/28/2008 4:58:51 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: LetsRok
I would rather pay the taxes on the money now and let my fund grow and not have the proceeds taxed at all on retirement.

So what's to stop them from taxing them again at withdrawal? Because they said so?

20 posted on 10/28/2008 5:03:25 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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