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Barack Obama and Raila Odinga -- Did the Illinois senator violate the Logan Act
PaulFVillarreal, Journal! ^ | 10/28/08 | PaulFVillarreal

Posted on 10/31/2008 8:03:35 AM PDT by OPS4

Obama’s Logan Act Violations: Kenya 06, World Tour 08!

The Logan Act has two basic components:

A) The Accused Individual must not, “without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commence or carry on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States,”

B) Must not do anything “to defeat the measures of the United States”, which in context means work against the policies of the President and Executive Branch.

If you reflect on this for a few minutes you will realize that this is a complete “hands off” message, no citizen can involve themselves in any dispute of any variety between a foreign government and the US Government without tacit, or direct, Authority of the President unless they themselves have been legally injured and are seeking redress for that injury. Senators, Congressmen and Ex-Presidents do not get a free pass on this.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Free Republic; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; corruption; democrats; elections; ethniccleansing; nobama08; obama; odinga
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1 posted on 10/31/2008 8:03:36 AM PDT by OPS4
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To: OPS4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE
The Video Link


2 posted on 10/31/2008 8:04:12 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

Who cares? He won’t even produce his birth certificate and apparently no one will make him. No one will do anything because he is black - 1/2 black that is.


3 posted on 10/31/2008 8:06:17 AM PDT by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: OPS4

Multiple times. He did it in Iraq too.


4 posted on 10/31/2008 8:09:12 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: OPS4
First, he did violate the Logan Act. Second, with a Democrat Majority in the House and Senate, who will prosecute him? If George Bush states it, the MSM will go epileptic over the accusation. Forget it, Obama committed treason in the US and overseas and nobody will out him on it...unless he loses the election...Let's pray.
5 posted on 10/31/2008 8:09:12 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: OPS4

Doesn’t matter.

If that were the case then they should lock up and throw away the key for Nancy Pelosi and Syria. Jimmy Carter for Venezula and Cuba. John Kerry for Vietnam..and a half dozen other Dems...

Not going to happen..


6 posted on 10/31/2008 8:10:08 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Aria

>>>No one will do anything because he is black - 1/2 black that is.

7% black, 43% ARAB!

He just looks 1/2 black.


7 posted on 10/31/2008 8:10:33 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Aria

Exactly....Laws are for Republicans. You cannot violate a law if you are Democrat, what a waste of thread.


8 posted on 10/31/2008 8:11:55 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: OPS4

"Laws for Logan Act violation, treason, murder, voting fraud, perjury, forgery, identity theft, election fraud,
Code level federal document stealing, and every other felony
simply do not apply to any Democrat or illegal aliens under my watch.
Obama has Teflon for both reasons. Republicans had better get over it and leave my country."

9 posted on 10/31/2008 8:12:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Bigh4u2

Dont bet on it, he will be locked up its a matter of what crime of th emany crimes which will be psoted here for the next 5 days they put him away for!


10 posted on 10/31/2008 8:16:11 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

Is this the “Barack Obama and Raila Odinga” coming out party? Woohoo!


11 posted on 10/31/2008 8:17:34 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Not waisted at all the truth hurts and it will be posted for those who care to hear the truth!!!!!!!!!!

ALL WILL BE SET FREE BY THE TRUTH MORE TO COME!!!!!!!!!!!

This is an EXCELLENT POST THAT I LINKED TOO!

Great Video


12 posted on 10/31/2008 8:18:32 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

Obama ties to Muslims! MORE HERE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE&feature=related


13 posted on 10/31/2008 8:20:42 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

Come on..

Obama will get a pass no matter what he does..

Keep in mind that Congress would be deciding whether he is guilty of the Logan Act...

And Congress just ain’t gonna do anything about it.

Guilty or not.


14 posted on 10/31/2008 8:21:52 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Earthdweller

Obama’s Cousin Charged With Ethnic Cleansing
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/01/great-obamas-cousin-charged-with-ethnic.html


15 posted on 10/31/2008 8:22:11 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Bigh4u2

Thats your opine! Mine is keep the heat on and it won’t go away!


16 posted on 10/31/2008 8:23:07 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

BTTT!


17 posted on 10/31/2008 8:23:12 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: OPS4

Although I applaud your enthusiasm..you are wasting your time..

If they couldn’t put Jane Fonda away for outright TREASON, there is no way they are going to convict Obama...

But, carry on if you must...


18 posted on 10/31/2008 8:25:02 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

“Kenya’s killing fields”
A pastor from Kenya wrote: “I have received your email (Daily Jot) forwarded to me from my loving and great friend Larry who is the missionary in Russia, Uzbekistan. We have been praying that the Lord will do what He can to make the Americans feel good by the end of the day.

So I will pray that the Americans get the best person they want which is their choice. Because I too fearing if the Obama can take over the leadership of that great Nation with the Muslim background it is very dangerous and I am wondering why the Americans are blind and they do not see, their eyes should be open to see the danger ahead of them…I am going to pray for you and your country and may God help you overcome this reproach.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/kenyas_killing_fields/


19 posted on 10/31/2008 8:25:23 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

You’ve got to understand something..

Your version of PROOF isn’t THEIR version of PROOF.

I don’t disagree with what you saying, I’m just disagreeing that anything will be done about it.


20 posted on 10/31/2008 8:27:14 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

you = your


21 posted on 10/31/2008 8:27:45 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: OPS4

Of course he violated the Logan Act. But the lamestream press won’t cover it, and the stupid sheep voters don’t understand it. As long as The Chosen One promises welfare Cadillacs, they will vote for him.


22 posted on 10/31/2008 8:29:18 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Bigh4u2

Odinga and Obama both Luo:
“We are Taliban”
Watch this video of the conflict in Kenya months back. Odinga and Obama are Luo. Odinga and his American counterpart and strategist Obama both campaigned on this canard of “change”. Obama campaigned for Odinga. Adam pointed out that Obama been in Nairobi politicking more recently than he’s been to Iraq. Why now does Obama pretend he doesn’t know him?

Listen as the Luo calls itself the “Taliban” in the video. It’s graphic, it’s gruesome but it is who Obama supported. Watch the whole thing, particularly the Luos burning church, raping women, and hacking a man to death ........... vid hat tip kasper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ws5cdiTFa4


23 posted on 10/31/2008 8:29:28 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: TommyDale

no but we will and this post will be llinked thorughout the Worl Wide Web as of NOW!


24 posted on 10/31/2008 8:30:29 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

Sorry...It was sarcasm.


25 posted on 10/31/2008 8:30:34 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

KENYAN POST ELECTION VIOLENCE DALLAS DEMONSTRATION!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ff2J-bcF4I


26 posted on 10/31/2008 8:33:00 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Barack Hussein Obama – The Rise of Islam in Kenya

I have worked and traveled in the Christian and Muslim countries of Africa for more than 30 years. I have witnessed first hand apartheid in South Africa, the transition from Rhodesia to Zimbabwe, coups in Nigeria and Sudan, the rise of Al Qaeda, the growth of the Muslim Brotherhood and other key events. In spite of witnessing all these events, I believe that the recent events Kenya stand out as a watershed event signaling emerging resurgence of Islam in Kenya and the beginning of the open Clash of Ideologies between the Muslims and Christians.

The events unfolding do not represent a Clash of Civilizations, ethnic issues or a race issue, the conflict is between Ideologies – Muslim vs. Judeo Christian Ideologies and between Leftist/Marxist authoritarian (Liberal Fascism vs. democratic free enterprise.)

Kenya a Microcosm for Future Events

The battles occurring in Kenya are a microcosm of the future battles that will occur in the West and the United States elections as we witness the growth of Leftist/Marxist – Islamist Alliance striving to achieve “Change” and create a New World Order leading the formation of global Islamic kingdom of God. Whether it is by economic means through the formation of Islamic finance and economics and acquisition of Western assets via the Sovereign Wealth Funds (SWFs), military and political action, or terrorism, the goal is the same. The growth of Islamic Financial institutions and their Sovereign Wealth Funds applying Shariah law should be an early warning to this growing trend. See also: Sovereign wealth rules Financial Times, January 21, 2008.

“It is unlikely the climate will remain this conciliatory. Morgan Stanley predicts sovereign wealth assets will rise fourfold by 2015 from today’s level, which is equivalent to 5 per cent of global market cap. Far too much faith is being put in creating voluntary codes of conduct that emphasize funds ‘independence and transparency.’”

As Christopher Caldwell in his article A feeble defence of our freedoms in the Financial Times of June 23, 2007 commented:
http://www.newmediajournal.us/guest/jonsson/2008/02092008.htm


27 posted on 10/31/2008 8:36:43 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

He did but nothing will be done about it. I do not care if the sorry SOB is black he should be prosecuted.


28 posted on 10/31/2008 8:38:43 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: OPS4

Enough already...

Ping someone else.

I’ve seen almost all the videos about Obama that I want to.

Nothing is going to happen to him, no matter how much you or I want it to...

This is a horrendous waste of time...

A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS will do NOTHING about Obama...


29 posted on 10/31/2008 8:49:44 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: yldstrk; All

I still say the Obama/Odinga thing would bring Obama down.
THE SHEER AUDACITY OF OBAMA GOING TO KENYA ON OUR TAX PAYER DOLLAR TO CAMPAIGN FOR THE MURDEROUS ISLAM-BACKED ODINGA!!!

Few American voters have a clue about all this!
Why won’t the media touch it? Even Fox won’t publicize it.
Some of us have conducted a letter-writing campaign to Fox get this out to the voter without results.

Read a good account of the whole thing here:
http://www.themidnightsun.org/...

HELP US!
http://www.protestthemedia.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7


30 posted on 10/31/2008 8:55:37 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: OPS4

He is a walking violation of the Logan Act. It is a daily occurrence in his life. For some reason this country wants to invite an invasion and for the first time since the revolutionary war we will end up with an occupying force on our shores.

That’s of course in addition to the occupation of the raging left loon goon squad!!!


31 posted on 10/31/2008 9:08:57 AM PDT by surfer
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To: OPS4

BUMP


32 posted on 10/31/2008 9:18:48 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Bigh4u2

By mid-February 2008, more than 1,500 Kenyans were killed. Many were slain by machete-armed attackers. More than 500,000 were displaced by the religious strife. Villages lay in ruin. Many of the atrocities were perpetrated by Muslims against Christians.

The violence was led by supporters of Raila Odinga, the opposition leader who lost the Dec. 27, 2007, presidential election by more than 230,000 votes. Odinga supporters began the genocide hours after the final election results were announced Dec. 30. Mr. Odinga was a member of Parliament representing an area in western Kenya, heavily populated by the Luo tribe, and the birthplace of Barack Obama’s father.
http://www.againstobama.com/2008/10/when-will-msm-report-obamas-support-for-kenyan-tyrant-odinga/


33 posted on 10/31/2008 9:20:28 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4
Barack Obama and Raila Odinga -- Did the Illinois senator violate the Logan Act

No. Odinga was running for president of Kenya; he was not yet president of Kenya. If he had been running for reelection, then Barry probably would have been in violation.
34 posted on 10/31/2008 9:24:53 AM PDT by aruanan
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WRONG, HE did violate.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
Obama did this with tax payer dollars.
Clear violation.


35 posted on 10/31/2008 9:37:15 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

Obama’s registration in Indonesia under the name “Barry Soetoro” also raises questions as to whether he adopted that name in the U.S. at any time. According to Illinois state filings, when Obama registered as an attorney in 1991, under the name Barack Obama, he stated he did not have any former names.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=72656
So who are we voting for?


36 posted on 10/31/2008 9:46:46 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

of course he did, just like w/ the foregin minister of IRAQ, nothing new here


37 posted on 10/31/2008 9:51:37 AM PDT by peace with honor
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To: peace with honor

Keping the heat on is new, the MSM still has yet to aske the question, I will keep asking, until doomsday!


38 posted on 10/31/2008 9:54:18 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

I really don’t understand why this Odinga stuff did not break into at least FOX News.


39 posted on 10/31/2008 9:56:10 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Aria

No one will do anything because he is black - 1/2 black that is.”

Even that isn’t correct.
He is 1/2 Arab.


40 posted on 10/31/2008 9:57:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: OPS4

my comment to you, if the fricking MSM, won’t report on 3 of their OWN being thrown off of the obamaramaDINDONG plane, I can’t believe they would go after the clown for a violation of the LOGAN ACT


41 posted on 10/31/2008 10:15:57 AM PDT by peace with honor
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To: OPS4
At the time Raila Odinga was running for office of president of Kenya, was he an existing officer or agent of the government of Kenya? If yes, then Logan applies. If no, then it doesn't.
42 posted on 10/31/2008 10:27:04 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: OPS4

According to a few responses from republicans in the house, a senator is outside the bounds of this act. The original violator, was a state rep.

I still think this act is meant for state dept recognized people and those in DC dont have the gnads to bring up the charge.


43 posted on 10/31/2008 11:10:36 AM PDT by smith288 (Maverick - Barracuda 08! Http://www.cafepress.com/smith288)
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To: OPS4

KNOCK IT OFF..

I’ve seen it...damn...


44 posted on 10/31/2008 12:01:46 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: smith288

Could be will forward to state department now.


45 posted on 10/31/2008 12:32:32 PM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Bigh4u2

No will not! more to come.


46 posted on 10/31/2008 12:36:33 PM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

Do you have some sort of mental condition that compels you to ping people who ask you NOT too?

STOP PINGING ME!!!


47 posted on 10/31/2008 12:52:08 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

Your mental you come in a post I put here and keep harrasing me over your pinging problems, then quit anwering in my thread I dont need your ping.

So find another thread that you can play in.


48 posted on 10/31/2008 1:01:01 PM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

An American report of the time Obama spent with Odinga.

An American report of the close personal ties between Barack Obama’s father and Raila Odinga’s father. Read the entire article at the The Washington Times.

Follows some snippets:

Mr. Odinga had the backing of Kenya’s Muslim community heading into the election. For months he denied any ties to Muslim leaders, but fell silent when Sheik Abdullahi Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum, appeared on Kenya television displaying a memorandum of understanding signed on Aug. 29, 2007, by Mr. Odinga and the Muslim leader. Mr. Odinga then denied his denials.

The details of the MOU [Memorandum of Understanding] were shocking. In return for Muslim backing, Mr. Odinga promised to impose a number of measures favored by Muslims if he were elected president. Among these were recognition of “Islam as the only true religion,” Islamic leaders would have an “oversight role to monitor activities of ALL other religions [emphasis in original],” installation of Shariah courts in every jurisdiction, a ban on Christian preaching, replacement of the police commissioner who “allowed himself to be used by heathens and Zionists,” adoption of a women’s dress code, and bans on alcohol and pork.
http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/10/washington-times-on-obama-odinga.html


49 posted on 10/31/2008 1:16:20 PM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

THEN USE YOUR OWN DAMN NAME IN THE ‘To:’ BOX!

NOT MINE!!!

I’m tired of have ‘New Posts’ just to find out it’s YOU..


50 posted on 10/31/2008 1:20:36 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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