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Coal, Mining Groups Blast Obama
The Hill ^

Posted on 11/03/2008 10:15:56 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Coal, Mining Groups Blast Obama @ 12:53 pm by Chris Good

National and state coal groups are blasting Barack Obama today over a recently publicized audio tape of Barack Obama talking coal with the San Franciso Chronicle in January.

The National Mining Association, the West Virginia Coal Association, the Ohio Coal Association, and the Kentucky Coal Association have all criticized the Democratic candidate over a controversial remark about coal power plants, made in a January interview with the San Francisco Chronicle, in which Obama suggests building coal power plants would "bankrupt" energy corporations and investors.

In the tape, Obama outlines his cap-and-trade energy plan, which caps emissions for corporations and allows for the trade and auction of credits to emit greenhouse gasses.

The idea of such plans, also supported by John McCain, is to provide disincentives for pollution, and in the Chronicle interview Obama used coal power plants as an example of what would be discouraged: "If somebody wants to build a coal power plant, they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."More...

Coal groups have reacted forcefully to the tape, which was reported today by a Charleston, W.Va. TV station to have "resurfaced" Sunday. The tape was featured yesterday on right-leaning media blog Newsbusters; it has been a lead story on the Drudge Report this morning.

"Bankrupting the coal industry would be tantamount to bankrupting the American economy. Coal generates half of our nation s electricity, employs hundreds of thousands of Americans and provides millions of dollars in revenue to coal states," National Mining Association President and CEO Hal Quinn said today.

(Excerpt) Read more at briefingroom.thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008election; barackobama; coal; democrats; digg; economy; election; electionpresident; elections; energy; mccain; nobama08; obama; obamacoal; palin

1 posted on 11/03/2008 10:15:57 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Did Obama have the coal miners’ vote wrapped up? How big is this vote and does it lean dem? Ids this enough to flip dem coal miners’ votes?


2 posted on 11/03/2008 10:18:02 AM PST by umgud (In a crisis, dump gold, buy lead)
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To: Sub-Driver

Let’s pray they blast him right out of the country.

This POS is making so many enemies.


3 posted on 11/03/2008 10:18:26 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Is ACORN founder Wade Rathke, a Bill Ayers Weather Underground Associate)
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To: Sub-Driver

But I bet the United Mine Workers Union will hang with Obama and say he’s being quoted out of context.


4 posted on 11/03/2008 10:18:32 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Obama ready on day one to bring Kenyan style democracy to America.)
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To: Sub-Driver
No problem. The coal miners unions will still demand they vote for Obama, even if it destroys them.
5 posted on 11/03/2008 10:19:56 AM PST by RetiredArmy (God speaks & Americans ignore. So, maybe now He is going too act . . . you will notice, believe me.)
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To: umgud

This should help sway a few voters away from him. He wasn’t going to win West Virginia anyway. The places this should help are Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, and PA.


6 posted on 11/03/2008 10:21:58 AM PST by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: elhombrelibre

The Union will, but will Union members? Remember: The Union doesn’t get to vote.


7 posted on 11/03/2008 10:23:15 AM PST by HoustonTech
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To: RetiredArmy
No problem. The coal miners unions will still demand they vote for Obama, even if it destroys them.

I was in a union once and we were told how to vote. But myself and many if not most of my co-workers voted just the opposite. Unions DO Not really have that much power in delivering the vote.

8 posted on 11/03/2008 10:25:56 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: HoustonTech
Well, I talked with one’s wife who said they were still voting Obama. So I hope the independent miners, the related industries, and those with common sense vote against the man who wants to bankrupt their industry.
9 posted on 11/03/2008 10:27:38 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Obama ready on day one to bring Kenyan style democracy to America.)
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To: Sub-Driver

We only need a few votes . . a few more to bring us to a win. One or two or a couple hundred disgruntled miners and spouses jumping on the McCain-Palin ticker are exactly what we need.

Don’t give up!!!


10 posted on 11/03/2008 10:28:02 AM PST by BAW (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: RetiredArmy

The union will probably say nothing, but the coal miners themselves are going to have a great deal to say at the ballot box. This may put McCain/Palin over the top in PA, Oh, and WV.

A whole lot of those state’s economies are ultimately coal based. Mines, manufacturing, grocery stores. This is a disaster for Obama and it looks as if we are using it well.


11 posted on 11/03/2008 10:28:13 AM PST by texmexis best
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To: RetiredArmy

Do the union bosses [aka “thugs”] go into the booths with their employees?

What if the they say “yeah boss” and vote to keep their jobs any way?

How will the thugs...I mean, bosses know?

I know hubby’s union [AFSCME, Teamsters] pressured him to vote for “their” candidates all the time but he voted his own mind, in the end.


12 posted on 11/03/2008 10:28:29 AM PST by Salamander (http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/?c=Obama)
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To: texmexis best
Their presidents statement backs Obama and blasts McCain.

http://www.umwa.org/index.php?q=news/mccain-campaign%E2%80%99s-last-minute-distortion-obama%E2%80%99s-coal-record-act-desperation

13 posted on 11/03/2008 10:31:38 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Obama ready on day one to bring Kenyan style democracy to America.)
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To: RetiredArmy

I doubt that the top ten leaders of the UMWA have 10 years of mining experience put together.


14 posted on 11/03/2008 10:32:15 AM PST by Jaxter (Everything I needed to know about Obama I learned by Googling "Black Liberation Theology".)
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To: umgud

“Did Obama have the coal miners’ vote wrapped up?”

No but Obama has been STRONGLY encouraging all of his supporters to vote early if the can....now it is to late for some to change their votes...Ouch!


15 posted on 11/03/2008 10:34:47 AM PST by blueyon (Every one will have their 15 mins under the bus)
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To: Sub-Driver

I can see those mighty coal miner minds trying to figure this out. You mean ‘the one’ is going to hurt ‘us’. Yep it would appear your right at the top of the list.


16 posted on 11/03/2008 10:35:49 AM PST by Hans
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To: RetiredArmy

“No problem. The coal miners unions will still demand they vote for Obama, even if it destroys them.”

UMWA membership only represents 10% of active coal miners.


17 posted on 11/03/2008 10:36:06 AM PST by mmanager (It's amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: HoustonTech

Think of all those useful idiots who voted early. Obama has been begging people to vote early. There’s no telling what other stuff he’s afraid will leak out.


18 posted on 11/03/2008 10:36:17 AM PST by Terry Mross (If Obama wins this may be my last post.)
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To: texmexis best; SAJ; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; BOBTHENAILER; Marine_Uncle; blam; ...
Sarah Palin is using it this morning:

FR thread:

Sarah Palin Connects With Attack on the Liberal Media (Coal Plant Issue)

19 posted on 11/03/2008 10:38:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Sub-Driver
The National Mining Association, the West Virginia Coal Association, the Ohio Coal Association, and the Kentucky Coal Association have all criticized the Democratic candidate over a controversial remark about coal power plants, made in a January interview with the San Francisco Chronicle, in which Obama suggests building coal power plants would "bankrupt" energy corporations and investors.

Look at the spin in this sentence alone, enough to make you puke isn't it? The statement isn't controversial, it is a fact and he didn't suggest, he stated outright he is going to bankrupt coal fired plants, which, in turn, will bankrupt coal mines and many other businesses in the US. Bozo is a true communist and the SF chronicle are just as deep in the marxist sh** as Bozo is.

20 posted on 11/03/2008 10:40:38 AM PST by calex59 (!)
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To: elhombrelibre

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2123740/posts?page=1


21 posted on 11/03/2008 10:42:41 AM PST by Undertow ("I have found some kind of temporary sanity...")
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To: Sub-Driver
Link to video at this thread:

Video of Obama, coal bankruptcy

Drudge has link to audio....

22 posted on 11/03/2008 10:42:58 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Salamander

When I was in the United Association of Plumbers and Steamfitters, every union meeting before the election the Business Manager would stand up on the stage and glare at the membership and say “we know how you voted and we will make you pay” in a effort to scare the membership in to toeing the line...Never worked on me and I stood up and told them so!


23 posted on 11/03/2008 10:43:34 AM PST by shotgun
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To: Salamander
I know hubby’s union [AFSCME, Teamsters] pressured him to vote for “their” candidates all the time but he voted his own mind, in the end.

I worked a union shop for 35 years and the a**hats leaders always tried to get us to vote for the Democrat, since we were in the lumber industry and lived mostly in the country, we always voted for the conservative(in my early years some Dems were conservative). Most workers have a mind of their own, some buy the BS, most don't. I know we fought hard to keep the jerks from using our funds to promote the dem candidate and to keep them from trying to speak for us. Union members don't necessarily agree with union leadership.

24 posted on 11/03/2008 10:44:49 AM PST by calex59 (!)
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To: shotgun
You gotta be kiddin’ me!

Who the hell do they think they are?

All-seeing God?

Thugs!

25 posted on 11/03/2008 10:50:08 AM PST by Salamander (http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/?c=Obama)
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To: Sub-Driver

Coal, oil, natural gas and the YOU TUBE: Biden: evil corn syrup.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TTfCE1QfYg corn syrup producers will be hit hard. Job losses, soup lines...drip, drip pretty soon you have a Hoover style depression.


26 posted on 11/03/2008 10:51:17 AM PST by GailA ( Valor Quilts for our wounded Troops....I'm a quilt-aholic!!!)
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To: calex59

Good to hear.

Hubby was always p*ssed that his union dues were going to support candidates he despised.


27 posted on 11/03/2008 10:51:55 AM PST by Salamander (http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/?c=Obama)
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To: RetiredArmy

I think the UMWA is about gone any way.


28 posted on 11/03/2008 10:53:13 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ferengi?.....Probably not, but he sure has the lobes)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Obama’s Real Agenda On Coal Now Clear
Wheeling News Register | 11/3/08 | Editorial Board
Posted on 11/03/2008 8:44:57 AM PST by pissant
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2123610/posts

UMWA Statement on Obama Remarks (BARF ALERT!)
umwa.org | 11/3/08 | Cecil E. Roberts
Posted on 11/03/2008 10:32:32 AM PST by Undertow
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2123740/posts


29 posted on 11/03/2008 10:53:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

November surprise...just too bad it came out on a Saturday and not 2 weeks ago when early voting began.


30 posted on 11/03/2008 10:54:22 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (Forget the 3AM phone call. Obama can not even answer the phone at 3PM.)
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To: RetiredArmy
The coal miners unions will still demand they vote for Obama, even if it destroys them.

They might want to take another look at Michigan and the auto industry to buy a clue.

31 posted on 11/03/2008 10:55:13 AM PST by jersey117
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To: blueyon

Except there is NO early voting in Pennsylvania. Hopefully this bites him in the hind end.


32 posted on 11/03/2008 11:19:01 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (A vote for Hussein is insane!)
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To: ExtremeUnction

yes. They just deliver the money.


33 posted on 11/03/2008 11:25:11 AM PST by dervish (Acorn,Ayers, Rezko,Wright,Farakhan,Khalidi. America wake up!)
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To: ExtremeUnction
But myself and many if not most of my co-workers voted just the opposite. Unions DO Not really have that much power in delivering the vote.

That will change if Obama card check becomes law and does away with secret ballots in the workplace. More union workplaces, more power to corrupt union bosses and more Democratic officials receiving worker money.

34 posted on 11/03/2008 11:31:56 AM PST by CedarDave (John McCain -- "Country First" is getting yourself elected. Save us from Obama and the socialists!)
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