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Obama Wins Ohio - It's Over

Posted on 11/04/2008 6:21:14 PM PST by My Favorite Headache

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To: Scotswife
“If the pirates want to steal the ship, sink it.”

Amen.
I’ve been examining the potential benefits of a mattress as an investment opportunity.
Try ammo. It never depreciates.
101 posted on 11/04/2008 7:02:00 PM PST by Infidel Puppy
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To: Paved Paradise

Gotta disagree it is the white left wingers and knee jerk democrats who are the real culprits


102 posted on 11/04/2008 7:03:14 PM PST by uncbob (es wouold realize that but iguess their arrogance)
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To: arderkrag

Kindly don’t refer to me as a troll. McCain has now lost 3 Bush states...Iowa, New Mexico, and Ohio.

IT IS FUCKING OVER! GOT IT?

Sheesh!


103 posted on 11/04/2008 7:03:30 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (Forget the 3AM phone call. Obama can not even answer the phone at 3PM.)
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To: Paved Paradise

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups....


104 posted on 11/04/2008 7:03:30 PM PST by rebel85
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To: indiana_gop

“at least since Newt”

and while Newt is a talented politician, in his personal life he is a big weenie.
And turns off women with his treatment of his wives.

We need a good conservative who isn’t a cheater and who doesn’t announce a divorce to a cancer-stricken wife.


105 posted on 11/04/2008 7:03:45 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: alfadog

We have to get the “election mess’ straightened out!

How can you have an election when the Fraud is so rampant and easy, when the election polls can’t run it right in most states and you have NO reliability in the system.Many of the “losses” were in the margin of error easily if you count the Fraud vote.


106 posted on 11/04/2008 7:04:23 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Obozo.....friend of dictators and wannabee revoluuuushionaries !)
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To: Scotswife
And I was thinking the benefit vs. cost.

Sure - we would miss out on the interest - but the tax will also increase, and then there is the intangible LESSON we could teach the rest of the freakin idiotic moronic imbecile obots.

Republicans can and SHOULD bankrupt these socialist thieves. What do we have to lose? They need to be shown who really has the power. Money talks, Bullis**t walks....

107 posted on 11/04/2008 7:04:29 PM PST by dokmad
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To: My Favorite Headache
Yep, tonight will go down in history as the day America jumped the shark. In the next four years the Socialists will nationalize health, energy and housing. Soon they will put forth a plan to confiscate everyone's 401K and IRA and replace them with worthless bonds. I fail to understand how the America voter could elect someone they know almost nothing about other than that he is a socialist. This is indeed a very sad day for the country and I weep for all our children and what we have done to future generations.
108 posted on 11/04/2008 7:05:13 PM PST by reader25
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To: My Favorite Headache
LOL! This thread is hilarious!

It reminds me of the threads on dimwhit city during the 2000 and 2004 elections. Never thought I would see it here, but what the hell....shoot yourselves! Leave the country....That will help...

Frankly, anyone thinking McCain had a chance in hell are bad gamblers. This election was lost when the financial markets crashed, and it was very iffy before that.

To me, this will end up being the best thing that has happened to aid the Republican Party in generations. Had this not happened, we would be in the wilderness for 30 years. Now that it has, we will reemerge stronger and better within 3-5 years and this time we will keep them down for 30.

109 posted on 11/04/2008 7:05:22 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: My Favorite Headache

thanks but no thanks for your freakin negativity


110 posted on 11/04/2008 7:05:48 PM PST by RDTF (BO smells and eventually people do what's necessary to avoid it)
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To: My Favorite Headache

He hasn’t lost them until all the votes have been counted. Currently, not even a composite of the votes - not even half - have been counted. Please tell me how he has lost them when the race in those states isn’t even half over.


111 posted on 11/04/2008 7:08:47 PM PST by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Cold Heat
ad this not happened, we would be in the wilderness for 30 years. Now that it has, we will reemerge stronger and better within 3-5 years and this time we will keep them down for 30.

No country has ever turned itself around once the slippery slope slope starts --I was hoping for some delay but even if McCain wins the dem congress would essentially neuter him
112 posted on 11/04/2008 7:09:55 PM PST by uncbob (es wouold realize that but iguess their arrogance)
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To: Toespi
They lost any way, they should have united and defended Bush

You don't get it slick. People were sick of backing this AH, when it became obvious to all he was anything but a conservative.

113 posted on 11/04/2008 7:10:21 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Paved Paradise
-"I’m just ashamed of the Blacks in America, not my country. When that number of people will just carte blanche vote for an evil man because he is the same skin color as them, that speaks volumes to ME."

Agree. This election did not 'advance' race relations - to the contrary - I think it reversed race relations back almost half a century. NOTE, I don't mean "rights", I mean "race relations"!

I am not prejudiced in ANY way, and want all to have equal rights. I don't paint anyone or any group with a 'broad brush', but black people brought - and enthusiastically PAINTED onto themselves with a BROAD BRUSH a pure and unabashed RACIAL vote component to this election that was utterly disgusting and appalling.

114 posted on 11/04/2008 7:12:08 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: My Favorite Headache

Moreover, I see no one even attempting to call Iowa or NM - NY times has Iowa unslated and NM slightly Red. where are you getting these numbers?


115 posted on 11/04/2008 7:12:24 PM PST by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: dragnet2; B4Ranch

Bingo. In politics, nothing happens by chance.


116 posted on 11/04/2008 7:12:44 PM PST by glock rocks (Have you noticed the quality of troll has taken a disappointing decline lately?)
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To: Infidel Puppy

“Try ammo. It never depreciates.”

hubby knows all about that.
I’ll have to pick his brain.


117 posted on 11/04/2008 7:15:26 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: My Favorite Headache
Breaking out the xanax...enough is enough. The polls were right...what can we say...this party is in complete disarray and we need to move southern primaries up to add in with the blue state primaries.

Conservatives need to form a new party period. The GOP as in ever again being Conservative has ran out it's natural life course. On the primaries? Make them all 120-90 days before the general election and stop dragging the race for POTUS which for 2012 begins tomorrow out forever.

The primary election process is taking way too long by beginning on New Years Day of election year and because of that the MSM controls it till November.

118 posted on 11/04/2008 7:15:30 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: dokmad

I got flamed here for suggesting that very thing a week ago.

Something to the effect of how does that make me different than a DUmmie. By that logic, if I ever get into the situation where I am getting shot at I should just throw my gun away so as not to “lower” myself to their level.

I’m dumping all investments and staying out of the Market until I see the results of 2010 if 0 wins.


119 posted on 11/04/2008 7:15:42 PM PST by glock_fan
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To: GerardKempf

The only way they can stick it to you is if you bend over for them.

Do you really need that new car, the flat screen, the satellite TV service? Do you really need a big house and big house payments and big tax bills? Do you really need to put in 60 hours a week at a W-4 salary job, or can you get by working for cash and living modestly and frugally on your savings?

Who is John Galt?


120 posted on 11/04/2008 7:16:37 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: uncbob

All you need to do is say Jimmuh Carter II and it will all make sense to you.


121 posted on 11/04/2008 7:18:10 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: My Favorite Headache
crap...now I have to live with the first Terrorist Backed, Black Panther, Metrosexual, Litteral Bastard, Socialist, Environmentalist, Pencilneck Racist who talked with a whistle at the end of every sentence

what I nightmare.

I imagine, Snoop Dogg, Fifty Cent, Ayers and Odinga sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom, riding on Air Force One !

122 posted on 11/04/2008 7:19:21 PM PST by KTM rider (It's the supreme court appointments stupid)
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To: My Favorite Headache
crap...now I have to live with the first Terrorist Backed, Black Panther, Metrosexual, Litteral Bastard, Socialist, Environmentalist, Pencilneck Racist who talked with a whistle at the end of every sentence

what I nightmare.

I imagine, Snoop Dogg, Fifty Cent, Ayers and Odinga sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom, riding on Air Force One !

123 posted on 11/04/2008 7:20:02 PM PST by KTM rider (It's the supreme court appointments stupid)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I’m going to repeat this a lot tonight.

1- It ain’t over til it’s over.
2- Even when it’s over, it ain’t over.
3- There will be lawsuits, I hope, due to ACORN and other voting irregularities. All we can hope for is Honest Judges.
4- We had to live through Jimmy Carter to get to Ronald Reagan, and we can live through 4 years of Barry Obama to get to the likes of Sarah Palin.
5- WE became too complacent and we didn’t start the VETTING process soon enough or with enough vigor. EVEN IF WE SOMEHOW PULL OUT A WIN THIS TIME, the Socialist-Marxists will STILL think they can overpower us in 4-more-years. If they win this time, the American Public will get so ticked off at Democrats that they won’t have a chance in the White House for at least another 16-20 years (the length of a person’s recall).
6- IF Barry Obama wins, we still hammer at our Congresspeople regularly and vigorously. We send emails, we send snail mails, we keep up with CSpan and everything going on in Congress. AND we watch what our various States are doing.
7- WE have got to stay political. It’s no longer just a game, it is Survival. We Can Live Through 4 Years Of Barry Obama.
8- No matter what he promised, he’s got nearly a Trillion Dollars in Bail Out on His Plate and he will ultimately be responsible for what happens with that, not George W Bush. And WE need to make sure, with letters to the editors, that the Public is made aware of just whose responsibility it is. And we also need to play “devil’s advocate” when he proclaims that he “can’t” do something he promised to do while running for President. WE need to remind the lemmings that Obama promised . . . and now he’s reneging. So what else did he LIE about?
9- WE have the advantage over an Obama Presidency. We know what’s going on and he is clueless. USE IT to our advantage. Inundate his office with letters and emails for every mistake he makes, for every misstep he makes. Call him on his errors and Quote History Books.
10- WE know how to use the Internet to our advantage! And we will do so. Maybe an Obama Presidency is just what WE need to shake us up and make us get serious about the USofA.

Now, lock and load and be vigilant. And don’t nobody try to take my State Retirement away from me.


124 posted on 11/04/2008 7:20:26 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (All You Need is Money [Soros] and a Candidate Who Can Be Coached to Look Sincere [Obama]. A. Huxley)
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To: mvpel

That’s exactly what I am thinking. Either take the first ex-pat deal my husband can get or just downsize to bare essentials. I own two modest homes, I could probably sell one and live modestly in one. Problem is I have kids. If it weren’t for the kids, I’d drop out completely. I won’t watch my husband get grey hair working for the dem’s socialist utopia.


125 posted on 11/04/2008 7:20:36 PM PST by riri
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To: Cold Heat

I’d agree with you, if we weren’t importing the entire 3rd World and turning into some South American style country.


126 posted on 11/04/2008 7:22:39 PM PST by riri
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To: MississippiMan
If you had told me in 1988 that in 20 short years, we would be electing a socialist foreigner as president, I would’ve looked at you like you were from another planet.

Yeah, I would say, "you're talking crazier than Margot Kidder on my front lawn." B-D At the very least, you've been reading too much future dystopia books. Well, here we are.
127 posted on 11/04/2008 7:23:04 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: cva66snipe; pissant
Conservatives need to form a new party period.

This is as true today as it was a month ago.

So where do we start? Is it better to start a new party from scratch or ... ?

http://falconparty.com/

128 posted on 11/04/2008 7:27:32 PM PST by airborne (Adversity doesn't build character. It reveals it!)
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To: riri

Let’s get real here. McCain was neck and neck with Obama and in fact in some polls ahead before the economy tanked. When it tanked his numbers dropped like a lead weight. Blame the chicken sh%ts on Wall Street who were selling off their stocks as if there was no tomorrow. They panicked and handed this election to Obama.


129 posted on 11/04/2008 7:27:44 PM PST by Lent
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To: My Favorite Headache
STFU !
130 posted on 11/04/2008 7:29:38 PM PST by tomkat (Proudly voted McPalin @ 10am up in the T of PA)
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To: American_Centurion
Call for a new party, a real CONSERVATIVE party NOW. Can we, finally abandon this sinking ship?

I'll go along with that. I'm not sure any of the field in the primary could've swung this election. A real conservative with energy and vision could've. Conservatism always wins, when it's not pandering.
131 posted on 11/04/2008 7:30:21 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: mvpel
Do you really need that new car, the flat screen, the satellite TV service? Do you really need a big house and big house payments and big tax bills? Do you really need to put in 60 hours a week at a W-4 salary job, or can you get by working for cash and living modestly and frugally on your savings?

Who is John Galt?


I'm considering that, I'm between jobs now but have a good chance at taking a basic job in an auto parts store or one similar. I'm going to keep it, work hard, make enough to take care of Mom and my cats plus keep my old jalopy running. That way, I pay as little as I can in taxes. I live frugally, my TV is 26 years old, I have the first playstation and none of my computers are made past 1999. I do admit I think Ayn Rand is a little too absolutist but she does have a lot of wisdom where people can only take so much. Who is John Galt?
132 posted on 11/04/2008 7:30:22 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: My Favorite Headache

Whites voted for him because of his race, particularly young Whites and among young Whites particularly young White women.

I’m sorry to say that, but it’s true. That is the demographic that put Obama into the White House.

The Hiphop culture in America had a huge impact upon the election. He has done nothing and said nothing substantive which would qualify him to be the leader of the free world.

He’s Black, he’s articulate and he has a nice smile.

That’s it. Welcome to the White House Mr. President.

All I can say is stand tall and don’t forget a country cannot survive under Socialism and the welfare state.

Also don’t forget that minorities and people of color voted 90% + for race while Whites gave both candidates a chance and the White vote was divided. He will represent the people who voted for him more than the people who did not vote for him, and that is very much divided along racial lines.

Don’t forget it.


133 posted on 11/04/2008 7:31:26 PM PST by grizzly84
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To: My Favorite Headache

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEcj8KpuJw&feature=related


134 posted on 11/04/2008 7:31:28 PM PST by DariusBane (I've got a bracelet too :))
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To: airborne

Yep. Being democrat light has not worked so well for either Bush or McCain.


135 posted on 11/04/2008 7:32:07 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Milly
I emigrated here over 40 years ago to get away from Socialism! Now I’m going to be right back in it, way worse than the U.K. was at the time a left. Never thought I would see it here.

I hear ya. Hubby and I are discussing tonight how we can retire early. There's really no point any more to keep on working just to support others (assuming we'll have enough for our basic necessities - ammo, food, and tractor supplies)
136 posted on 11/04/2008 7:32:51 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Nowhere Man

I’m cancelling Christmas...not one dime this year.


137 posted on 11/04/2008 7:35:26 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: dokmad
Maybe it’s time for republicans to pull their money out of the markets and let the dems wallow in their own feces. As long as we have the money, we still have power. Pull it out of the market and stuff it under a mattress!! Lets start NOW!!

The individual Republicans with enough money in the stock markets to make a large difference are mostly the ones to thank for creating this nightmare to start with. They like tax cuts that's it. On everything else they are as much a Liberal as the Big O or except enough of their policy that it gets pushed through.

They are the ones who took over the GOP in 1995 and began the road to the GOPs losses starting with Dole in 1996. There is no way to weed them out. Only thing left to do is abandon THEIR PARTY and let them slug it out with the DEMs. In the mean time Conservatives need to start preparing a Whigging for the GOP. With the GOP LIBERAL Party & DEMs going at each others throats a Conservative new party could get a foot hold in. With today's mass communication capabilities there is no reason it can't happen. Four years of Obama and this nation should be begging for a Conservative Party over the DEMs and GOP's Rockefeller re-runs. It's Time!

139 posted on 11/04/2008 7:37:47 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: Scotswife
Goodbye stock market.

I figure it will tank again tomorrow, make up all the gains from today.

I'm leaving my money out. Since the dems are talking about eliminating 401Ks and can now do it (in Jan), the market will be on shaky ground.
140 posted on 11/04/2008 7:37:55 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Toespi; dragnet2; glock rocks

I knew it was over for Conservative America and the Conservative Republican Party when Bush was elected for the 2nd time. You can’t keep putting RINO’s on the lead horse and not expect socialists to gather close around.

The Bush bots love Juan McCain because he’s another Bush but with the military flavor. They feel safe with the military close by. The globalist twisted Republican Party members are happy with America even though they aren’t in power. The fact that a Marxism preaching communist will be on the lead horse isn’t that offensive to these socialists. They see global powers uniting and that’s just fine. National sovereignty never was a big issue with them. Kalifornia is filling up with illegal aliens and that’s fine with them too. They won’t lose any sleep when US citizenship is raped with another amnesty by Obama and his followers.

Hug your kids and tuck them in with a prayer asking for guidance from above every night because that’s where their security will come from from now on.


141 posted on 11/04/2008 7:37:55 PM PST by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: EdnaMode

Drink tonight, but wake up sober, brother. We have a lot of work to do, and it won’t involve more voting.


142 posted on 11/04/2008 7:39:03 PM PST by joe.fralick
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To: P-Marlowe; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; enat

I am shocked that they were able to call Ohio so soon after the polls closed.

I noticed a huge early vote lead for Obama out of Cuyahoga county (Cleveland), at the rate of 2:1 for Obama. I wondered if that included the early ballots that were questioned.

It doesn’t matter at this point. They showed a bar at Ohio State University and the students were cheering. Three kids at a table were asked what it meant. Two of the three said they wanted student grant money to increase.

As the south of the state comes in, it will be overwhelmingly pro-McCain, so the final numbers in Ohio will be much closer.

The truth is, though, that I don’t know this state anymore.

Like you say, though, life is the issue. I’ll get to this tomorrow, but McCain was a terrible candidate. Not once did he make life a focus of attack. He didn’t nail down the issue of supreme court justices. He didn’t hit guns. He never once promised to LOWER taxes. He didn’t touch on crime.

In short, name a conservative issue, and McCain didn’t hit it.

George W. Bush: ultimately this entire fiasco in 2006 and 2008 gets laid at GW’s doorstep. His absolutely idiotic, stubborn refusal to defend his actions in Iraq reference WMDs and Al Qaeda got the ball rolling. It is also GW who started the infighting in the conservative base in 2006 with his illegal alien and Dubai Ports and Harriet Miers inspirations.

He’ll get credit for defending this nation after the 9/11 attack, but his incompetence in dealing with attacks on his reason for being there is what killed these two elections.

If we can win WWII in 4 years, then the difference was leadership.

Nail me on this if you wish, but I’m now allowed to say it.

And now idiot Obama is going to pull out in 16 months NO MATTER WHAT. That means that every American killed there in the next 16 months is a wasted life.

My America has gone socialist. Babies will continue to be sacrificed to Molech. God will be angry with this people, and His judgment will come.


143 posted on 11/04/2008 7:40:20 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: pissant; cva66snipe

The whole system is corrupt.

Right from the primaries, with allowing them to be “open”, and spreading them out, with liberal states going first...

If conservatives are serious about having a voice that speaks for us, we have to find an alternative to the current Republican party.

Sadly, that means money. And time. But if we start now, and work hard, we can make it happen.


144 posted on 11/04/2008 7:40:31 PM PST by airborne (Adversity doesn't build character. It reveals it!)
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To: B4Ranch
I knew it was over for Conservative America and the Conservative Republican Party when Bush was elected for the 2nd time. You can’t keep putting RINO’s on the lead horse and not expect socialists to gather close around.

It was like a dedicated husband finding out his wife was an unfaithful slut.

The husband burned down the house, hunting down his wife.

145 posted on 11/04/2008 7:44:07 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: B4Ranch
I knew it was over for Conservative America and the Conservative Republican Party when Bush was elected for the 2nd time. You can’t keep putting RINO’s on the lead horse and not expect socialists to gather close around.

It was like a dedicated husband finding out his wife was an unfaithful slut.

The husband burned down the house, hunting down his wife.

146 posted on 11/04/2008 7:45:10 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Lent
It wasn't the chicken sh%ts on Wall Street that brought about the credit market collapse...it was Chuck Schummer. He release the secret report on the IndyMac Bank and when the run on it occurred the crisis began. Then his home boy Paulsen picked it up from there and it was a done deal.

McCain's only hope was to have taken Romney as Veep. Mitt would've added tremendous economic background to the ticket, in fact I doubt that Chuckie would've pulled this stunt with the Mittster on the team. He also would've been a big puller with young white woman. Oh well, Romney in 2012 ?

147 posted on 11/04/2008 7:46:58 PM PST by cyberslave (The chase is a foot!)
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To: dokmad
Republicans can and SHOULD bankrupt these socialist thieves. What do we have to lose? They need to be shown who really has the power. Money talks,

It's hardly worth it to work now (as a second income anyway). It'll not be worth it at all with any tax increases.
148 posted on 11/04/2008 7:48:50 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: airborne
This is as true today as it was a month ago. So where do we start? Is it better to start a new party from scratch or ... ? http://falconparty.com/

I'm open to any of them right now. Today for the first time I passed over three GOP choices. I live in Tennessee a GOP safe state. I voted Bawldwin, I voted against Lamar Alexander and for an Independent and I voted against Rep Zack Wamp-R in the same manner. {I had supported Zack Wamp for years} Alexander should have never made it in period the first time. If Bush had stayed out of it a Conservative would have won instead of Alexander when Thompson gave up his seat.

Alexander's bailout vote absolutely clinched it for me this election as it did with REP Wamp whom just days earlier promised to do better than that. I only voted GOP on state ballots. This is the worse election cycle I have ever seen.

149 posted on 11/04/2008 7:50:34 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: B4Ranch; tubebender; Squantos; Eaker; Pete-R-Bilt; SierraWasp
Even us political whores like a kiss when it's over.

Can't say it wasn't predictable. Let's blame it on the Birchers for not warning us about the Warren court, or the commie's overtaking of our government schools. Dim times ahead, comrade.Ezra spinning in his grave could be a good carbon offset about now. Prepare for the earth going stupid in real time.

150 posted on 11/04/2008 7:52:57 PM PST by glock rocks (Have you noticed the quality of troll has taken a disappointing decline lately?)
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