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Why not a new contract with America?
Myself ^ | Nov 6 2008 | Nateman

Posted on 11/06/2008 3:55:21 AM PST by Nateman

I knew this country was in trouble after McCain won the California primary , but I also had great hopes after Republicans got control of the congress under Clinton. They kept the promises of their contract then dropped the ball and went back to pork as usual. Why not a new contract that fixes the problem at its source: federal spending?

Imagine Republicans getting together at all levels, state and federal, and hammering out a proposed constitutional amendment which freezes the budget until it is balanced then keeps the budget frozen until income tax can be limited forevermore to some fixed amount? (I like 0 % myself, which it was for the first century ) Imagine putting that and other fiscal restrictions and so on in writing (unfounded mandates comes to mind).All these would be office holders then sign it, pledging that if elected this is what they would enact . I think it would become a huge rallying force that would not only throw the RATS out but make it much harder for them to buy the votes of our enemies in the future. (Should, heaven forbid!, they ever get power again.)

Other changes could be debated too but get it all out there in writing so it becomes a national referendum. The great thing about this is a president can do squat about it. Such things are within the power of Congress and the State houses alone. It would not only get control of the House but eventually the Senate if the RATS kept fighting it, and I have no doubt they would do so.


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For the sake of marketing it needs a catchy name. Perhaps " Rebirth of Liberty Agreement" . I'm sure somebody can think of a better one
1 posted on 11/06/2008 3:55:25 AM PST by Nateman
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To: Nateman

Join The Ronald Reagan Army http://ops4freep.blogspot.com
To free America!


2 posted on 11/06/2008 3:58:35 AM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Nateman

Here’s why: Because the corporation issuing the contract is bankrupt. No one will sign a contract from the GOP. It’s not even a national party anymore.


3 posted on 11/06/2008 4:01:38 AM PST by gotribe (obama just sucks - your wealth away)
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To: OPS4

A suggestion I had 1.5 years ago. The candidates we are fielding simply do not possess the focus, command of issue, and articulation that Reagan & Newt have.


4 posted on 11/06/2008 4:01:53 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: Nateman
They made a HUGE mistake by NOT doing a CONTRACT WITH AMERICA EVERY TWO YEARS!!!

They fell for that crap put out by the DEMOCRATS that noone liked the FIRST CONTRACT......HOOEY! It gained the Republicans 54 seats!! The MSM and the DEMS HAD to make sure THAT NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN!

5 posted on 11/06/2008 4:03:51 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Nateman
The Constitution is the only “contract with American” that any political party needs to succeed. The ‘Pubbies should try adhering to the “original Contract with America” and all would be well.....
6 posted on 11/06/2008 4:03:58 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Nateman

Guess you didn’t get the message? LOL!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2126691/posts


7 posted on 11/06/2008 4:04:46 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Nateman

Another Contract with America would be a nice publicity stunt, but the GOP would never follow through with it.


8 posted on 11/06/2008 4:07:32 AM PST by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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To: DBCJR
A suggestion I had 1.5 years ago...

I made a post similar to this many years ago myself. Milton Friedman was my original source.

9 posted on 11/06/2008 4:08:22 AM PST by Nateman (Do not go quietly into the night. Rage! Rage! at the loss of the light!)
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To: Nateman

It would be portrayed as the “politics of the past.” We need more than just gimmicks. We need new personalities.


10 posted on 11/06/2008 4:08:28 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Nateman

ok first of all: no more amendments.


11 posted on 11/06/2008 4:09:41 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Brilliant

but we need a national platform


12 posted on 11/06/2008 4:10:17 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Thermalseeker
The Constitution is the only “contract with American” that any political party needs to succeed. The ‘Pubbies should try adhering to the “original Contract with America” and all would be well.....

What a novel concept!!

13 posted on 11/06/2008 4:10:47 AM PST by dearolddad
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To: Nateman
Nateman,
In fact, John Boehner, Minority Leader and brilliant strategist for the 2008 elections, publicly rejected the idea for another "Contract with America".

"There will be no effort to try to nationalize the elections." Brilliant! And all while the Dems Nationalized theirs.
He also said "(A)t the end of the day, people will have to run their own elections."
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/boehner_rejects_contract/2008/07/23/115471.html

Considering he worked on the first one, and the incredible successes resulting from that, you'd think he might have a clue. But he didn't, and we went into the elections facing a National Democratic Campaign like a Junior Varsity 3rd Stringer QB against the Dallas Cowboys. Stupid ****.

14 posted on 11/06/2008 4:11:16 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspell)
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To: ari-freedom

We need both. But you’ve got to have the leadership first.


15 posted on 11/06/2008 4:12:26 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Nateman

I think we need to follow Rush’s lead on this subject. I listened to him yesterday and I think he’s spot on. I also think his instincts have been right on the whole way. He warned of McCain and the rest of the RINO’s that put him in position to win the nomination from the beginning. There needs to be a state by state, district by district effort in targeting all moderates of the party and replacing them with conservative candidates. Rush said yesterday that the strategy will take some time to develop, but he’ll begin naming names in the process, i.e. targets. My thoughts.


16 posted on 11/06/2008 4:12:36 AM PST by TheRake (Lake Orion, MI)
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To: ari-freedom

.........but we need a national platform”

Might I suggest a return to adherence to Constitution as originall written


17 posted on 11/06/2008 4:12:41 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Nateman

Need someone like Newt who can articulate conservatism. Don’t see anyone like that.


18 posted on 11/06/2008 4:13:47 AM PST by tips up
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To: Brilliant
It would be portrayed as the “politics of the past.”

Calculus is over 300 years old. It may be "mathamatics of the past" but it still works.

19 posted on 11/06/2008 4:14:32 AM PST by Nateman (Do not go quietly into the night. Rage! Rage! at the loss of the light!)
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To: Nailbiter

constitution doesn’t say anything about a balanced budget or what the tax system should look like


20 posted on 11/06/2008 4:14:59 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Nateman

Sign me up...


21 posted on 11/06/2008 4:15:14 AM PST by Pharmboy (BHO: making death and taxes yet MORE certain...)
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To: gotribe
Here’s why: Because the corporation issuing the contract is bankrupt. No one will sign a contract from the GOP. It’s not even a national party anymore.

We had a choice between democrat and democrat-lite . Given a real choice I believe we can win again.

22 posted on 11/06/2008 4:17:16 AM PST by Nateman (Do not go quietly into the night. Rage! Rage! at the loss of the light!)
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To: Nateman

Another unread vanity post.


23 posted on 11/06/2008 4:18:15 AM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: gotribe
Here’s why: Because the corporation issuing the contract is bankrupt. No one will sign a contract from the GOP. It’s not even a national party anymore.

True, they sure have peed on the last one, how about a road through your private development former Mr. Speaker.

24 posted on 11/06/2008 4:18:29 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: ari-freedom
constitution doesn’t say anything about a balanced budget or what the tax system should look like

No, the Constitution does not specifically reference a balanced budget or a specific tax system, but the part about a limited Federal gubmint should be a huge clue to anyone willing to pay attention to it....

25 posted on 11/06/2008 4:18:52 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Nateman
The problem is, the ramoras outnumber the sharks, now.
There's no point.
26 posted on 11/06/2008 4:19:16 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: Thermalseeker

you still need more specifics. The biggest problem is that most americans just don’t care about the constitution anymore.


27 posted on 11/06/2008 4:21:12 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Nateman

We need a Contrat WITH America and a Contract ON the Democrat Party and the leftist Media lapdogs who serve it.


28 posted on 11/06/2008 4:23:13 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: wolfcreek
Guess you didn’t get the message? LOL!

Lots of crying and gnashing of teeth getting posted but how many actually offering up a plan? When I did a similar post many years ago it was ignored. Folks are ready for it now.

29 posted on 11/06/2008 4:23:26 AM PST by Nateman (Do not go quietly into the night. Rage! Rage! at the loss of the light!)
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To: Nateman

Impossible.

More than half the people want the government to take care of them.
The rest want the government to just leave them alone.

I think if the truth was known about how many Freepers get government benefits, it would choke a horse.


30 posted on 11/06/2008 4:24:27 AM PST by djf (New millenium pickup line: "Hey baaaaaaybe, how long since you been Obama'd?")
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To: Nateman

I sense that conservitives are going to do major house cleaning by working to go back to their roots by modeling after Reagan.


31 posted on 11/06/2008 4:26:43 AM PST by Biggirl (Throw The Bums OUT!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: ari-freedom
The biggest problem is that most americans just don’t care about the constitution anymore.

Yep, that, and an utter lack of historical perspective. On both counts I place the fault at the feet of the gubmint indoctrination centers, er, uh, I mean publik skools....

32 posted on 11/06/2008 4:28:23 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: ari-freedom

“constitution doesn’t say anything about a balanced budget or what the tax system should look like”

I know what a balanced budget is, I would hope those that are elected would also.

Tax system, there should be no tax system. /s

I understand that govt needs operating cash but present tax system is a bit broken.


33 posted on 11/06/2008 4:28:55 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Nateman

The conservitves have to do it alone, away from the GOP. It has become Dems lite.


34 posted on 11/06/2008 4:30:59 AM PST by Biggirl (Throw The Bums OUT!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Thermalseeker
The Constitution is the only “contract with American” that any political party needs to succeed...

The constitution had an amendment added to it that gave the federal government free reign to take all the income it desires, no limit. They promised it would be tiny it order to pass it but it has been like a cancerous growth on this great nation and we got a taste of just how bad that tumor is November 4th. Time to cure the cancer , not just elect another smiling face.

35 posted on 11/06/2008 4:33:03 AM PST by Nateman (Do not go quietly into the night. Rage! Rage! at the loss of the light!)
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To: Nateman
The term itself is already too politically soiled thanks to the RINOs.

It should be abundantly clear that the majority of Americans do not vote FOR leaders... They vote AGAINST them!

They don't care what promises are made, because they don't expect the promises to be kept. This is because if Americans have learned anything from politics, they have learned that ALL politicians lie just to get into office.

They don't care about experience or historical precedence on party platform. They care about appearances and appeasement.

They dont care about our constitution, because most don't even know what is in it, and more importantly why it exists at all. American voters today are simply not aware of the fragility of freedom, and they just overwhelmingly voted for the largest contract AGAINST America in it's 200+ year history.

Our battle is NOT about selling party policies to the American public... It's about teaching America what freedom is, why we have it, and what it takes to keep it. Unfortunately, the majority of Americans have taken their freedoms for granted, and now it is time for them to pay the price for their ignorance and complacency.

Republicans simply need to shut the hell up, get the hell out of the way, and be prepared to once again step in to clean up the mess after the democrats screw it all up.

CONTRACTS???... hell no.... TEACH PRINCIPLES!
36 posted on 11/06/2008 4:35:20 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: ari-freedom
ok first of all: no more amendments.

Prohibition was a mistake and then undone. The Income tax needs a similar cure.

37 posted on 11/06/2008 4:36:06 AM PST by Nateman (Do not go quietly into the night. Rage! Rage! at the loss of the light!)
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To: Nateman

Hey,Jim Robinson,what do you think about adding the ability to vote comments and stories up and down?

What do the folks think?

I really wish to click up for this story,many times.
This would after some time give us a clear picture of what folks are thinking?
*******
Liberty Project

Project Liberty
***
For right here,right now I hope there will be vocal and active support for the aptly named

Project Leper

Outing and casting into oblivion the dirty,scum sucking, cowardly, traitors from inside McCain’s campaign who are attacking Palin.

See here:

http://choosethehero.com/mccain-palin-updates/operation-leper

The lovely and serious Michelle Malkin is on this case,so it is going to move,I would say:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/05/the-mccain-campaigns-classless-cowards/

I am both angry and disappointed about this.
The basic Ignorance of Mr Reagan’s first rule,to start.
Plus it is further proof of the depth of Mr McCain’s
failure.
To have people of this low character around him,to lose control of this the way he did...?

I am angry and disappointed,and
I want some proverbial blood on the floor.
Public excoriation and humiliation
for these people is in order.


38 posted on 11/06/2008 4:37:30 AM PST by pending (TODAY)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Another unread vanity post,

Cheer up ! I read it.

39 posted on 11/06/2008 4:40:23 AM PST by Nateman (Sometimes I wonder if Obamabots post here to discourage us.)
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To: theDentist
"There will be no effort to try to nationalize the elections." Brilliant! And all while the Dems Nationalized theirs...

Need to change his mind or change him.

40 posted on 11/06/2008 4:43:04 AM PST by Nateman (We can do it!)
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To: tips up
Need someone like Newt who can articulate conservatism. Don’t see anyone like that.

Mike Pence.

41 posted on 11/06/2008 4:44:03 AM PST by 03A3
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To: TheRake
"Rush said yesterday that the strategy will take some time to develop, but he’ll begin naming names in the process, i.e. targets. My thoughts."

I heard Rush too and it's not really in opposition to him.I believe my plan will work because a similar plan worked before and it would take out , once and for all , the cancer that is killing this Republic!

42 posted on 11/06/2008 4:48:41 AM PST by Nateman (We can do it!)
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To: Nateman

If anyone had a GOOD plan for this time around, it too was ignored.

Conservatives were swindled this cycle.


43 posted on 11/06/2008 4:50:48 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: pending

Above I said,”I really wish to click up for this story,many times.”. This was intended as a show of my enthusiastic support for this overdue idea.

If voting up and down is considered,I think it should be one per person,to get a valid picture of what folks are thinking.

Certainly,only folks who are signed in would be able to do this.

I also suggest a waiting period before voting is enabled for new members.

Perhaps after 30 days and 10 comments,for example.

My intent here is to prevent meddling from the Kossacks,Dhummies and HuffingPuffing fools.

Keep the faith,as always.


44 posted on 11/06/2008 4:51:20 AM PST by pending (TODAY)
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To: Nateman

This needs to happen. For all the snide remarks about how the Contract with America didn’t work, I suggest you read Major Garrett’s book “The Enduring Revolution”. He recounts the sweeping political shift and its lasting positive contribution to our nation... even 14 years later.

Time for a new contract...

http://www.amazon.com/Enduring-Revolution-Contract-America-Continues/dp/1400054664


45 posted on 11/06/2008 4:53:11 AM PST by conservative_guyz
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To: ari-freedom
you still need more specifics. The biggest problem is that most Americans just don’t care about the constitution anymore.

The potential candidates would work that out at some kind of convention. The left would get so enraged that their venom alone would get people interested.

46 posted on 11/06/2008 4:55:05 AM PST by Nateman (We can do it!)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Another unread vanity post.

"Vanity post" AKA "Look Mommy, I made a poo".

47 posted on 11/06/2008 4:57:25 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: djf
More than half the people want the government to take care of them. The rest want the government to just leave them alone.

Here in Liberaland (California) almost all the spending measures on the ballot FAILED . There is hope and its not the false Obamessiah kind.

48 posted on 11/06/2008 5:01:59 AM PST by Nateman (America, the enlightment for the world, must not be surrendered!)
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To: Jeff Gordon

>>>Another unread vanity post.

Another attempt to suppress free speech?

I can understand the need and desire to keep the breaking news category free of vanity posts. But this post is about Activism, and appears to me to be properly categorized.

Maybe you should start a vanity on the difference between a news thread and an opinion thread instead of denigrating ones like this as if it didn’t even matter by calling it a vanity.

Maybe you could offer some suggestions that encourage free speech such as this, while at the same time preserve your precious news list integrity. Maybe we could start by separating News/Activism into their own categories.

I’m sorry, but posts like yours kinda piss me off.


49 posted on 11/06/2008 5:06:56 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: Nateman
They promised it would be tiny it order to pass it but it has been like a cancerous growth on this great nation

Yep, and the backers of the 16th Amendment also said at the time that it would only affect "rich people". Taxes are certainly a necessary evil to provide funding for the gubmint. However, the cancer started when the gubmint started using the tax system to control behavior. It really got bad when they convinced a majority that taxing corporations and the movement of capital was a good idea in a Capitalist system. It's beyond out of control now. People can argue income tax rates until they are blue in the face, but when you add up all the other taxes, FICA, Medicare, property taxes, tangible taxes, telephone taxes, etc., as I have done, my real tax rate is more like 56% of my gross income.

It's really sad when a "former" Communist country like Russia has a flat tax and we here in a "free" country have a "progressive" tax system exactly as it is laid out in the Communist Manifesto....again, I fault the gubmint skools and a complete and utter lack of historical perspective amongst the majority of the populace. We need only look as far as last Tuesday to see the depths of the ignorance......

50 posted on 11/06/2008 5:07:54 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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