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Barack Obama Birth Certificate is not real.
Various, Factcheck.org and snarkybites | 11/6/8 | Demosthenes

Posted on 11/06/2008 1:35:14 PM PST by Demosthenes

Forgive me for rehashing this if anybody is tired of reading it, but I finally did all of the research for myself, and have some info you may not have seen.

Barack Obama has never shown his birth certificate. Allow me to explain. A "certification" of live birth is a copy document, accessible by the public, or government agencies, and usually a relatively legally acceptable document in most scenarios. You can use it at the DMV, or to get a passport.

A "Certificate" of live birth is the actual document itself, created on the day/moment of the event, and it is a hospital-maintained record in most cases, accessible only by immediate family and the person for whom it was issued.

Here is what Barack Obama's website put out initially:

http://www.politifact.com/media/img/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg

This image is a fraud, plain and simple. There is no state seal, no Registrar's signature, and only a vague June 2007 stamp on the reverse side. Both the signature and seal are easily visible in any photocopy, and are deliberately so. The artifacts surrounding the text are clear photoshop work. Giving Obama the benefit of the doubt, probably some overzealous aide generated it from a viewing of the regular document.

This is an image from Factcheck.org of what the website put out, excpet here we have an actual photograph, in high resolution, proving the website document a forgery. Notice, this document has the necessary seals and signatures:

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_6.jpg

This is, at least, a real document from the State Records office. It is still not an actual copy of the Certificate of Live Birth. The State seal and signature on this document certify to all viewers that this document was created by an actual State Agency, is not a forgery, and that the State of Hawaii accept it as a legal and valid document.

Remember, this is simply a legal substitute for the real birth certificate.

Both of these were offered up as "Birth Cretificates" when they are in fact legally-acceptable substitutes for the real thing. In most cases, this is not a big deal. However, in the case of a US President, I believe they are a VERY big deal.

An actual Certificate of Live Birth in Hawaii, through the 1960s, looks like this:

http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg

And the critical bit of information it discloses is the location of Birth.

They are very specific about that, and there are boxes for the location, be it hospital, home, foreign country or otherwise.

This is the document that has been sealed by the Governor of Hawaii in 2008, in a special action that affected only Obama's Birth Certificate.

How very convenient.

Why has special action bee taken to prevent this document from being seen?

Because, I suspect, there is information on it which would directly contradict public statements about his birth and begin unraveling a number of lies told to the public about his true origin, and raise serious questions about his eligibility.

His sister, and Grandmother in Kenya have both spoken publicly, and made statements about his locale of birth that contradict his own statements.

Why hide it, Mr. Obama?

What reason on earth would you have for asking the Governor of Hawaii to hide this document on your behalf?


TOPICS: Government; US: Hawaii; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: barack; bc; bho2008; birth; birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; colb; obama; obamafamily; obamagate; obamatransitionfile
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1 posted on 11/06/2008 1:35:15 PM PST by Demosthenes
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To: Demosthenes

First I’ve heard of this.


2 posted on 11/06/2008 1:37:14 PM PST by gotribe (obama just sucks - your wealth away)
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To: Demosthenes

Even if it showed he was born on MARS, it would make absolutely no difference now.................


3 posted on 11/06/2008 1:37:22 PM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: Demosthenes

Sorry that the post is duplicated, but I keep putting it up in the hopes that we will get to work to correct the loophole which allowed this mess.

So.....

CALL FOR ACTION:

Please, all Fellow FREEPERS, please consider doing the following to prevent this mess of questionable eligibility from ever happening again:

Call your State Senator, your State Representative and your Governor and ask them to provide simple legislation to give the Secretary of State the right, responsibility and obligation to confirm eligibility BEFORE ANYONE can go onto the ballot.

Personally, I think the best way to contact them is by phone during business hours, then a follow up by e-mail or mail to the person you talked to, then a follow-up a week or so later, but you can do what you think is best.

Practically, this would require all future candidates to fill out an application with supporting documentation, which could then be checked out by the Secretary of State’s office.

Hope there are many, many people across the country who are willing to do this now for prevention.

Remember..... 2012 is coming!


4 posted on 11/06/2008 1:38:10 PM PST by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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To: Demosthenes

SAMPLE e-mail (thank you Sons of Liberty)

I emailed my State Representative and State Senator the following:

Dear xxxxx:

During the current election it has come to light that apparently there is no Federal Provision or State Provision to ensure a Presidential candidate’s eligibility before placing their name on ballot. This came to light because Sen. Barack 0bama has steadfastly refused to provide a certified birth certificate showing that he qualifies as “Native Born” as required by Article II Section 1 of the US Constitution.

The applicable section is as follows:

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

Furthermore, in Sen. 0Bama’s case, there is good reason to believe he may have at some point renounced his US Citizenship and embraced foreign citizenship, even to the extent of traveling under a foreign passport.

There have been several challenges to Sen. 0Bama’s eligibility in numerous lawsuits filed across the Country. Should he win election, be elected by the Electoral College and sworn in, and then subsequently found to be ineligible, he would be a Usurper and any actions, orders, etc. by him would be null and void. This would spawn a Constitution crisis.

Therefore I request that you submit legislation to the Georgia Legislature that directs the Secretary of State prior to placing an individual’s name on the ballot in Georgia, to verify a Presidential Candidate’s eligibility in accordance with Article II, Section 1 of the US Constitution by personally viewing and verifying certified birth records and to make a good faith attempt to determine if any subsequent actions pertaining to citizenship occurred. This would apply to all candidates for President, including incumbents.

We are required at several times in our life to present valid documentation for things as mundane as drivers licenses, passports, etc. Surely, requiring proof of eligibility for President should require as much.


5 posted on 11/06/2008 1:38:36 PM PST by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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To: Demosthenes
What reason on earth would you have for asking the Governor of Hawaii to hide this document on your behalf?

Thinking.....thinking......thinking.....

Because it shows that his moon is in the Seventh House?

6 posted on 11/06/2008 1:39:54 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: Demosthenes

This is old news.
The lord god almighty Hussein Obbama don’t need no stinkin
birth certificate.

He is GOD, dontcha know?


7 posted on 11/06/2008 1:40:21 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Demosthenes

If its true, then the Democrats would just move to change the Constitutional requirement and everyone would go for it because it’s Obama.


8 posted on 11/06/2008 1:40:33 PM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: gotribe

It has been out at least a month and it appears that the Constitution is no longer valid in America.America may need a Civil Insurrection.


9 posted on 11/06/2008 1:41:05 PM PST by gunnedah
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To: Red Badger

Oh yes it would. The lawsuits would rain down fast and furious.


10 posted on 11/06/2008 1:41:18 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rjp2005

hahaha, aint that the truth.


11 posted on 11/06/2008 1:41:37 PM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: Red Badger

Yes it would; no matter what it said. He has to produce the original or step down. He hasn’t been sworn in yet.

I believe he has until Dec 1st to do this and he will pay dearly if he comes up with a another fake or nothing or a fake story.

And, I don’t care if he has been sworn in; if he is ineligible; he is ineligible.


12 posted on 11/06/2008 1:41:51 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Red Badger

Roger that. You took the words out of my mouth.


13 posted on 11/06/2008 1:42:12 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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To: Demosthenes

This is hugh and series!! Why haven’t we hurd this before?


14 posted on 11/06/2008 1:43:31 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: Demosthenes

Bump for later.


15 posted on 11/06/2008 1:44:28 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: The Californian

Anyone cut-and-pasting The Californian’s sample e-mail to their Senator should respectfully consider removing the “zero” in 0bama, and using the “capital-O” Obama instead.


17 posted on 11/06/2008 1:44:57 PM PST by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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To: Demosthenes
petition obama birth certificate
18 posted on 11/06/2008 1:45:03 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Red Badger

This is not over yet. The electors have not met to elect the President. It is within their power to de-certify Obama as not being eligible, and to choose someone else.


19 posted on 11/06/2008 1:45:28 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics)
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To: Demosthenes

I still don’t know why Hawaii gets final say on this. It’s a constitutional issue, Obama has to prove that he was born in the U.S. or he can’t be president. Any voter or citizen should have standing in court to force the release of the original document.

Another way to go about it: A full lower court case, filed with a GOP judge, who would allow witnesses. That way Obies Kenyan granny and other people who were present at his birth could somehow be brought over to testify. Maybe Bush can cut a quick deal with Kenya to make them come.

Worth a try.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 1:45:29 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: freekitty

The dog ate my birth certificate?..............


21 posted on 11/06/2008 1:45:34 PM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: Red Badger

Irrelevant right?

Just like the F**KING CONSTITUTION????


22 posted on 11/06/2008 1:46:30 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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So, are you saying that the recent certificate could list the “County of Birth” as Honolulu even if the original birth certificate from 1961 said that the place of birth was elsewhere (possibly Kenya)? Or are you looking for a date a few days later on the original than his supposed birthday (due to a few days to travel to the US to record the birth?


23 posted on 11/06/2008 1:46:38 PM PST by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Well, the joke is that

the state can’t explain the “virgin birth”.


24 posted on 11/06/2008 1:46:46 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: pissant

They would all be dismissed under the “No Standing” rule...........


25 posted on 11/06/2008 1:47:08 PM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: gunnedah
Obama has twice taken an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic" and to "bear true faith and allegiance to the same." He has never honored that oath, and, based on his policy proposals and objectives, he has no intention to honor it after again reciting that oath on 20 January 2009. Obama seeks to, in his own words, "break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution."

Photobucket

The flag in front of this house will remain as you see it here.

Inverted for the international signal for distress.

At half-staff to memorialize the death of the Constitution on 11/4.

(CAUTION: DANGEROUS RHETORICAL QUESTION AHEAD!)

MY GOD, how DID WE GET HERE??

26 posted on 11/06/2008 1:47:29 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: rjp2005

Just have a court/judge “interpret” that out of the Constitution.

They would just have to weigh their desired outcome - that Buttock 0bama be qualified as president - and then find justification by twisting the words of the Constitution or looking at foreign law.


27 posted on 11/06/2008 1:48:09 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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To: freekitty

then we get...Biden? Oh Joy!


28 posted on 11/06/2008 1:49:06 PM PST by MoreGovLess (The USA has one main political party: the Kleptocrats)
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To: Demosthenes

29 posted on 11/06/2008 1:49:24 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Demosthenes
Excerpt from worldnetdaily.com

U.S. Supreme Court Justice David Souter has rejected an emergency appeal for the court to halt the tabulation of the 2008 presidential election results until Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama documents his eligibility to run for the office, according to an attorney who brought the action that challenges the Illinois senator's standing in the race. However, the issue isn't going away, at least for now, since Souter set a schedule for a response from Obama to the challenge from attorney Philip J. Berg. As WND reported, Berg brought his claims to the Supreme Court after a federal judge dismissed his lawsuit alleging Obama is ineligible to be president because he possibly was born in Kenya.

30 posted on 11/06/2008 1:49:31 PM PST by housewife101
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To: Red Badger

Nonsense. You don’t think the GOP has standing? Electors? If Obama is lying about his birth circumstances, AND it is proven his COLB is a forgery, he will be drummed out so fast it will make your head spin.


31 posted on 11/06/2008 1:49:58 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Dick Bachert

The only “group” with “Standing” would be The US House of Representatives. And I don’t think Speaker Pelosi is going to question the eligibility of Obama to be President of the US........


32 posted on 11/06/2008 1:50:07 PM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: JoeA
The electors have not met to elect the President. It is within their power to de-certify Obama as not being eligible, and to choose someone else.

Oh Dear God...say it ain't Joe!

33 posted on 11/06/2008 1:50:14 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: The Californian

you know what,, thats a smart idea. It only takes one state to do it. Imagine if an Obama had to explain why he wasnt on the ballot in Texas for example. Oe state can basically make it impossible not to be proven.

With so mant Oriental and Mexican illegals here there days, it is almost a certainty to come up again.


34 posted on 11/06/2008 1:50:29 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Demosthenes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2126038/posts

More info at link above


35 posted on 11/06/2008 1:51:55 PM PST by housewife101
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To: pissant

I don’t think the Republicans have the necessary genitalia to even attempt a court case against The One......


36 posted on 11/06/2008 1:52:10 PM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: Demosthenes

Quick, send this to Drudge, Rush, and Sean!


37 posted on 11/06/2008 1:52:53 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: JoeA
The electors have not met to elect the President. It is within their power to de-certify Obama as not being eligible, and to choose someone else.

The "Electors" for Obama are die hard Dems...............

38 posted on 11/06/2008 1:53:28 PM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: Demosthenes

I looked at the jpg and called my congressman. He’s received several calls about the birth certificate. He didn’t get re-elected, so maybe he can hook me up as an elector and I’ll file suit. Longshot.


39 posted on 11/06/2008 1:53:41 PM PST by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the hell out of the way!)
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To: gotribe

something tells me this will be like Michelle Obama’s “whitey” video that everyone was sure would surface on youtube

still waiting...


40 posted on 11/06/2008 1:54:02 PM PST by MoreGovLess (The USA has one main political party: the Kleptocrats)
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To: AlexW

It’s because he was born of Immaculate Conception. If that got out it would be kind of embarrassing...


41 posted on 11/06/2008 1:54:30 PM PST by skikvt (Blah Blah Blah.)
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To: gunnedah

Sad, but when the law is no longer enforced, justice is gone and must be restored.

cant quote it verbatim in 1776-ese,,, but the line about “when a long series of actions reveal a design to reduce you to servitude”,,,

Isnt it amazing,,, you could be investigated for posting the declaration of independence and saying you mean it literally and currently.


42 posted on 11/06/2008 1:54:30 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Demosthenes

I’m thinking that since there was a birth certificate to seal (can you seal a record that doesn’t exist?) that he was born in the US, however there’s probably something ON the certificate that he’d rater the public NOT see.. like Father: Unknown, or that he changed his name from Barry to Barack... or even better.. changed his middle name. Either way.. the more we harrass him, the better I like it.. it’s THEIR turn now!


43 posted on 11/06/2008 1:54:30 PM PST by Dubya-M-Dees (Gun clingin' God Fearin pissed off redneck.)
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To: Reagan79

And if they did, they’d we’d have 2012 easily - except it would be by a RINO candidate.


44 posted on 11/06/2008 1:55:43 PM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: sandyeggo
IMO, Once the Gov. of Hawaii got involved, clearly there must have been something that had to be covered up.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and offer a possible answer as to why a (R) Gov and friend of Palin would 'seal' this certificate.

What if by 'sealing' it she is preventing tampering with the thing????? Even Obama can't get to it.

Only a court order 'unseals' it and she's waiting for that court order KNOWING lawsuits are going to come from those with REAL STANDING - i.e., ELECTORS as opposed to mere citizens such as Andy Martin or Berg.

Just a thought.

45 posted on 11/06/2008 1:56:03 PM PST by conservativegramma
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To: Demosthenes

API, is that you?


46 posted on 11/06/2008 1:56:08 PM PST by RobertoinAL
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To: DesertRhino

Is anybody really willing to go to war over this? because I’m quite sure there would be a blood bath. Mostly theirs but still.


47 posted on 11/06/2008 1:57:24 PM PST by refermech
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To: Demosthenes

Thank you for your research and this thread! Do not apologize. I’m pretty ticked off at those who say, “well, it’s too late now”, or “this is old news”, etc.

Folks, this isn’t a joke, this is serious. For those who don’t give a crap, then I hope you’ll be happy in the future when yet another candidate for public office and simply refuse to provide their birth certificate and still be elected.

Obama is now going to be not only the president but the Commander in Chief! Dear God, people, how can you not care! The troops that will be taking orders from this man had to show their birth certificates in order to enlist in the military. Military men and women, and a whole host of other positions, had to show their birth certificate AND have a complete background check done on them in order to obtain security clearance.

Obama has NOT shown his birth certificate and his family, friends and associates alone are enough of a reason that he would NEVER have been allowed to obtain security clearance in this country.


48 posted on 11/06/2008 1:58:37 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: TexasCajun

I find the font rather interesting for 1963 Arial not Times Roman aka typewriter. Hmmmmm, Hawaii must have had PCs and laser printers long before they were invented.


49 posted on 11/06/2008 1:58:59 PM PST by Cyclone59 (It is amazing how people are comforted by percentages)
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To: RetiredArmy
It makes a difference to these guys.

Vice presidential Candidate (Drake) filing lawsuit against Obama

In another unrelated action, though also aimed at forcing Obama to release proof or step down, 24 potential Electoral College electors are filing action Monday morning in court also demanding proof.

50 posted on 11/06/2008 1:59:18 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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