Posted on 11/09/2008 9:00:24 AM PST by mojito
The German newspaper Bild published never-before-seen architectural plans of the Auschwitz extermination camp on Saturday that reveal, in their unequivocally marked sections, that everyone involved in the operation of Auschwitz knew full well that it was intended for the systematic extermination of human beings, the paper said.
The floor plans, cross-sections and maps on yellowing paper, mostly on a scale of 1:100, were reportedly found during the evacuation of an abandoned Berlin apartment. They were drawn up between 1941 and 1943.
The 28 documents include detailed blueprints of prisoner barracks, gas chambers marked clearly Gaskammer (Gas chamber) in a Gothic-inspired font and a cross-section of the gate into which the rails of trains entered carrying Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, disabled persons and other people the National Socialists sent to die.
One of the maps carries the handwritten signature of Gestapo commander Heinrich Himmler.
The plans were not construction plans but were drawn after Auschwitz-Birkenau was built (on the foundations of an old military base from the Austro-Hungarian Empire).
On January 20, 1942, Nazi officials met in the resort of Wannsee east of Berlin where they devised the Final Solution, and this has traditionally been taken by historians as the beginning of the Nazis' extermination campaign.
One of the drawings, predating the Wannsee Conference by eight months, sheds new light on the chronology of the German genocide machine.
Dr. Hans-Dieter Kreikamp, chief director of the Bundesarchivs, the federal archives in Berlin, said the find was of "extraordinary importance."
"The plans are authentic certificates of a systematically planned genocide of European Jews," Bild quoted Kreikamp as saying.
As the plans show a "Laundry and shower room" leading into a "Dressing room" and then to the "Gas chamber," there could be no doubt of the purpose of the large room marked Gaskammer.
The documents rebut the last of those who would deny the Holocaust, Bild said in its report.
Just another warning, if you will, about authoritarianism, totalitarianism, communism, and absolute power.
BFL.
The documents rebut the last of those who would deny the Holocaust, Bild said in its report.
Actually, a liberal of the era would have seen Gaskammer and automatically decided it meant de-lousing room.
“The 28 documents include detailed blueprints of prisoner barracks, gas chambers marked clearly Gaskammer (Gas chamber) in a Gothic-inspired font”
wasn’t *all* printed german in similar fonts up until fairly recently, as in the last few decades?
No, they don't. Nothing will.
Well, maybe a time machine....
I had heard that everyone in Germnay was on vacation from 1933 thru 1945.
“Hmmm, this should come in handy...”
-Obama, upon reading this story.
The Obama plans for a Christian and Jewish Holocaust may be written on some piece of paper right now...
No, that’s not hyperbole or an exaggeration. Just look at the evil of Obama and know that evil is the only thing that can come from such a person...
Small historical correction. Heinrich Himmler was Reichsfuehrer SS, Chief of the German Police, Minister of the Interior [eventually], and had a bunch of other jobs. The actual COMMANDER of the Gestapo [two levels down from Himmler] was SS Obergruppenfuehrer Heinrich Mueller.
The LEFT often tries to distance itself from its ideological roots or just outright lies and denies its philosophical heritage in SOCIALISM.
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Without a doubt — we heard PLENTY of that during the Presidential campaign, did we not??
I have visited Auschwitz-Birkenau, and can tell you.....I will NEVER forget it. The smell stays with me, as well. I believe
it is a requirement by the Polish Government that every school-aged child visit. Should be recommended for children worldwide. jmo.
.....and before that, the idea was based on Darwinism.
I know its difficult, but try to stay on topic.
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Expansion and industrial efficiency courtesy of Albert Speer, who was surprised not to be hung along with his cohorts.
-Obama, upon reading this story.
Exactly. Something tells me the reason they dug this up was a request from the Obama transition team.
Hitler took a while to get to that point, but he started on the evil pathway right from the beginning. And likewise with Obama. His pathway has already been marked at evil from the beginning and he is going to consolidate his power and continue his evil march...
The Obama Transition Team has shown great interest in these plans.(sarc.)
A few years ago, I read that the same company that designed and built the crematoriums, was given a contract to design a continues, belted oven. Corpses are laied down, and five hundred feet later, the ash pile drops into a grinding bin, then into a dump truck.
I think they did the plans up.
The Nazi's were getting ready to work up the scale to do the Russians, Slavs, and so forth and need vastly more efficient death factories.
*rasberry* ;)
I am very perplex, and I am not kidding.
Knowing about extermination of the Jews, why did Obama get so many Jewish votes?
It boggles my mind!!!
So many folks in Europe at that time risked their lives to protect Jewish children.
One of our Canal Zone Rabbis and another little boy were rescued by a Roman Catholic priest. Those two little kids passed themselves off as good Roman Catholics.
In the end, the Catholic priest was fingered and went to the gas chambers.
I honestly do not understand this.
Do Jews have a death wish?
A lot of Christians gave their lives and went to the gas chambers trying to save them.
Nazism and Fascism are ideologies of the Left. One reason why their struggles with Communism were so bitter is that the contest was in the nature of a family quarrel, which is always the bitterest dispute..
Fully agree with that. I felt the same way after seeing Dachau (outside of Munich). It was veiled in the silent snow, but the air; the atmosphere is forever heavily tinged with the memories of the atrocities there. It is a tangibly sad place, and must always be kept open for Tours so that the people will never forget......
Because too many Jews still think that Hitler was some kind of right-wing Christian fundamentalist.
Totally depressing.
Eerily reminded me of the old newsreels of Adolf himself. Be afraid, if after super disappointing actual performance, the adulation goes on.
Nam Vet
The number one nightmare of Obama supporting jews is American “Nationalism”.
The people who deny the holocaust don't do so on the basis of proof or evidence, they do it on the basis of antisemitism...and that's not going to be changed by the discovery of plans indicating a gas chamber.
No. The Gothic style font became a lot less common after WWII. The Gothic style font was much more common in printed documents before the 20th century, while the use of a Latin font became more common throughout the 20th century. So blueprints from the Nazi period could have used a Gothic or a Latin font.
These blueprints should be reproduced and widely published because as time goes by more and more wicked people will try to convince the world that the Holocaust never happened. It is interesting that some kooks who have all sorts of weird conspiracy theories about everything are the same people who try to claim that the well-documented crimes of the Nazi period never happened!
Disagreements on political philosophy does not automatically mean the other side is evil. I did not vote for Obama nor can I imagine a scenario in which I would. I do not like him nor agree with him on many issues and his fundamental political underpinnings disturb me.
BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM EVIL. It's amazing how people immediately equate him with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc. because he is a Democrat. Perhaps he is evil - perhaps you are too. But lets base judgments on facts and not an overheated imagination.
I am very disappointed that he will likely be elected in December and sworn in in January. I fear he will make poor decisions and appoint people with whom I do not agree.
I AM PROUD THAT AMERICA ELECTED HIM. That is one of the fundamental things that makes America the greatest country in the galaxy. The transition will be peaceful and straightforward. How many countries in the world can have an open an free election that changes the political landscape so much? Maybe 15 out of 200? The Republic will survive. Remember in 2000 all the talk about the permanent demise of the Democratic party?
(Please spare us the conspiracy theories - if you have the facts then present them, but referring to rumors and gossip and unsubstantiated Internet musings is not factual and actually more than a bit disturbing.)
So, take a deep breath and LIGHTEN UP FRANCES.
You said — “Disagreements on political philosophy does not automatically mean the other side is evil. I did not vote for Obama nor can I imagine a scenario in which I would. I do not like him nor agree with him on many issues and his fundamental political underpinnings disturb me.
BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM EVIL.”
He’s evil because of his deeds and his choices and his partnerships (with some of the people who have helped and backed him)
I can mention Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers and that should be evil enough. Obama ridicules those who hold to the Bible (and also “guns”). That’s evil enough, too. He speaks for abortion (along with a lot of others, too) and that’s a very evil practice that he condones and promotes, making him another promoter of evil (in that practice).
As a Marxist (i.e., taking on the philosophy of Marxism), that totally anti-God philosophy, and thus evil.
You’ll notice that I didn’t mention being a Democrat...
But I thought the topic was Obama...you've changed it to Ayers and Farrakhan. Let's try to stay on topic.
Need we also list the conservative [sic] people who want to kill whole groups of people?
Without something objective and not emotional, it's hard to equate Obama and Farrakhan (which I think was the point of your post, but it's hard to be sure.)
Ayers should be in prison. But I cannot understand why the Reagan, Bush, and Bush administrations did not try him. Clearly, they are part of the vast conspiracy.
BTW, spell check is your friend.
Since the late 18th century, Fraktur began to be replaced by antiqua as a symbol of the classicist age and emerging cosmopolitanism. The debate surrounding this move is known as the Antiqua-Fraktur dispute.When I learned German in HS in the early 60's we had to learn to read Fraktur, as well as modern script because of the fact that so many books were still around which were printed in Fraktur.However, the shift mostly affected scientific writing, while most belletristic literature and newspapers continued to be printed in broken fonts. This radically changed when on January 3, 1941 Martin Bormann issued a circular letter to all public offices which declared Fraktur (and its corollary, the Sütterlin-based handwriting) to be Judenlettern (Jewish letters) and prohibited further use. It has been speculated that the régime had realized that Fraktur would inhibit communication in the territories occupied during World War II.
Fraktur saw a short resurgence after the War, but quickly disappeared in a Germany keen on modernising its appearance.
Depends on the size. If you have a 10x10 ft room with wooden racks all along the walls, then yes, it's a delousing room. But to exterminate so many human beings in a few short years, you'll need something bigger. Not to mention the problem of manipulating the corpses after that (cannot really touch them if they are oozing cyanide gas...) -- all of that requires a lot of infrastructure, and I don't think it would be mistaken if it was on blueprints.
That said, there is a distinct possibility that the blueprints are fake. Just like venomous spiders, the Nazi regime continues to exert a sort of fascination, including among Jews. There is a very active market for fake Nazi paraphernalia. And we all remember the latest Hitler diaries which turned out to be gross forgeries.
A Jewish friend who works in publishing once told me that a Nazi story with a swastika on the cover will always outsell a similar story without these references. Pretty sad.
Without getting too involved in the conversation since it’s not the thread topic, you’re absolutely right that Obama is not evil, despite having associations I’d put in that category, though I’d probably use different terminology. Equating Obama to Hitler or suggesting he advocates genocide is not only factually indefensible, it completely negates the many legitimate reasons to oppose the man. To the extent those things are associated with conservatives, the ability of conservatives to persuade is diminished.
You need a heck of a lot more than that to accuse Jews of forging these plans. To my knowledger, Konrad Kujau wasn't Jewish.
I’ll bet that sent a tingle up Zero’s leg...
This writer is wrong to lump all these Nazi victim groups together, as if their fates were all the same. Auschwitz was predominantly used for the mass murder of Jews. The Nazis didn't have a genocide program against any other group. Statistics clearly show that in the Nazi cancentration camp system as a whole, non-Jewish prisoners had a much higher surivaival rate than Jewish prisoners, because they were not subject to anywhere near the same degree of deprivation.
What you post is, of course, absolutely true — but that is beside the point.
The point is to (mis)state that “homosexuals” were just as much a victim group as Jews and gypsies, when nothing could be further from the truth.
The primary victims of the Holocaust were Jews, gypsies and communists, with many other disparate groups (political opponents, Soviet army prisoners, et al) suffering as well.
But, the modern politically correct historiography simply cannot resist casting the oh so precious subculture of homosexuals into the role of “victims” so homosexuals can share in the victim cache.
It’s repulsive and disgusting, of course, but it has become so ingrained as to be ubiquitous.
The Holocaust Museum in Washington has a display that shows the various insignia that were required to be worn by different groups in the concentration camps. There was a special one for homosexuals. As you can see in this chart, they were required to wear a pink triangle. Evidently enough of them were rounded up to make this separate category necessary.
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