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California Proposes Increasing Beer Tax
Realbeer.com Beer Therapy Blog ^ | November 9th, 2008 | Jay Brooks

Posted on 11/09/2008 8:44:31 PM PST by castlebrew

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“Despite the whining by industry about a tax increase, the time has come for Big Alcohol to pay its fair share of the cost burden of problem drinking in California. They’ve dodged the bullet for too long.”

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So here’s the lie. The neo-prohibitionists talk about how little taxes are paid on beer, as if breweries are getting away with something.

... Please explain to me how that’s different from the health risks posed by fast food, soda, red meat, and all manner of overindulgences?

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In addition to those taxes, breweries pay many other taxes on the beer you enjoy. It’s not just that one tax. In fact, about 44% of the cost of your beer goes to taxes of one kind or another?

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A tax is considered regressive if it falls more heavily on lower- and middle-income families than on the wealthy. And this is certainly true with beer taxes. ... Analyses based on recent data from the Consumer Expenditure Survey clearly show that beer taxes are very regressive, as a percentage of income, costing lower- and middle-income households many times more than those with more comfortable incomes. A recent Beer Institute analysis found that beer taxes are actually 6.5 times higher as a percent of income for lower-income households (those earning less than $20,000 per year) compared to higher-income households (earning $70,000+ per year). As a result, the tax on beer is one of the most regressive of all taxes in the federal and states’ tax codes.

Viewed another way, 50% of all beer, is purchased by families with incomes of $50,000 or less, though these households account for less than one-fourth of all income earned in the U.S.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: alcohol; beer; homebrewers; marines; taxes; taxincrease
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Ping to knewshound. And this is precisely why I started Homebrewing 15 years ago!
1 posted on 11/09/2008 8:44:32 PM PST by castlebrew
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To: JoeSixPack; Joe 6-pack; JoeSixPack1

You won’t be happy.


2 posted on 11/09/2008 8:47:06 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: castlebrew

They tried this last year. Taxocrats are too busy smoking weed to care about how real America’s choice to drink American-brewed beer.


3 posted on 11/09/2008 8:48:08 PM PST by HobonicsNRA
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To: castlebrew

Don’t worry, Obama will give you money to go buy some beer!/s;)


4 posted on 11/09/2008 8:49:51 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Kevmo
Although I don't live in CA, and I've been alcohol free for the better part of a decade, I still think these "behavior modification" taxes are utterly ridiculous, but will defer to someone who can state my feelings far more eloquently than I ever could...

"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

- C.S. Lewis

5 posted on 11/09/2008 8:53:09 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: castlebrew

I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you!!!! Who could have seen this coming?


6 posted on 11/09/2008 8:54:25 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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7 posted on 11/09/2008 8:56:43 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
No truer words were ever spoken. Read his Abolition of Man for a completely up-to-date take on the present course of things.
8 posted on 11/09/2008 8:57:32 PM PST by aruanan
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To: HobonicsNRA
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9 posted on 11/09/2008 8:57:56 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: castlebrew; All

Look for homebrew to be on the rise..


10 posted on 11/09/2008 9:00:08 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: aruanan

Back Door to Prohibition: The New War on Social Drinking: A great piece by Radley Balko who is the editor of Cato.org and a columnist for FoxNews.com. Read his blog "The Agitator", it's great.

Let's have a toast! Now that the smelly smokers are gone from the bar, we can have a few pints without that annoying, stinky smell of tobacco smoke. We're fine. The Government never has and never will go after alcohol....NOT!

Behind the Neo-Prohibition Campaign The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation: The Center For Consumer Freedom will help to explain why non-smokers who like Sam Adams or Jimmy Beam have nothing to worry about. It's not as if RWJF, a key group behind the anti-tobacco crusade, has them in their sights. You can rest easy.

Colleges are reaching their limit on alcohol : You're in the stands watching the USC-UCLA game at the Rose Bowl. How about an ice cold beer? Bwa,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!! Not for you my friend. Don't be surprised when you go to the Ballpark to watch your favorite team in the future and find no beer for sale. Can't say I didn't warn you.

Single Glass of Wine Immerses D.C. Driver in Legal Battle: We all agree that the drunk driver with a .45 BAC who kills a family of 5 by plowing into them while going the wrong way down a highway should be put away for life. However, under the category of "this could be you", read this before you take a sip of wine at your cousin's wedding, especially if it happens to be in the capital of our great nation.

Arresting Drinkers...In Bars: Let me repeat this for maximum effect: Arresting Drinkers...In Bars.

Anheuser-Busch Urged to Abandon "Idiotarod" Beer Promotion :Anheuser-Busch should drop its sponsorship of a Washington, D.C. charity event called the "Idiotarod," organized by a local group that goes by the acronym "SMASHED," according to the nonprofit Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI). The March 3 event, in which young people are urged to acquire shopping carts and drink beer in one bar after another, is in clear violation of the Beer Institute's Advertising and Marketing Code, which prohibits marketing which encourages rapid or excessive beer drinking or drinking games, according to the group.

Bud Light presents: "REAL MEN OF GENIUS"

(Real men of genius)

Today we salute you, Mr. Idiotarod Shopping Cart Racer!

(Mr. Idiotarod Shopping cart racer)

Sure, others use their shopping carts to carry their milk, eggs and groceries to the checkout counter...

(debit or credit?)

But you have found an even more ingenious use...

Racing other drunken idiots down the streets of Washington DC while dodging taxis, bike messengers and another fellow drunk, Ted Kennedy in his BMW...

(watch out for Teddy)

Wearing a dog harness, and a g-string and bow tie, you rampage down the sidewalks pulling a shopping cart with an alcohol to blood content of .89

(oooh, I feel a little woozy)

Homeless people, bag ladies, pedestrians, small children and animals are no match for your oncoming assault.

(get the hell out of my way)

So crack open an ice cold Bud Light, oh Dale Earnhardt Jr of the shopping carts, because when our car breaks down, we won't call AAA or AA, we'll call you...

(Mr. Idiotarod Shopping cart racer)

Bud Light beer. Anheuser-Busch, St. Louis, Missouri.

11 posted on 11/09/2008 9:00:30 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: aruanan
"Read his Abolition of Man for a completely up-to-date take on the present course of things.

I'm pretty sure I've read everything he ever published...certainly all the better known titles, although I agree, there's something new to be gleaned in each re-reading that seems to speak to whatever may be going on in your life or the world at the time you happen to go back through them.

12 posted on 11/09/2008 9:02:36 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: REDWOOD99

Say when.


13 posted on 11/09/2008 9:02:48 PM PST by null and void (This isn't an election, it's a manifestation of a Salvador Dali painting. [Persistence of Division])
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 11/09/2008 9:03:15 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: castlebrew

This whole thing reminds me of the “Married With Children” episode where Al Bundy becomes politically active when they threaten to raise his beer tax.

He didn’t give a crap, but when it was his ox being gored...


15 posted on 11/09/2008 9:03:25 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: castlebrew
Viewed another way, 50% of all beer, is purchased by families with incomes of $50,000 or less, though these households account for less than one-fourth of all income earned in the U.S.

So this is the basis for 0bama's tax plan!

16 posted on 11/09/2008 9:07:02 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I ceased drinking beer to avoid the gluten. Last night my wife made chili and used half a bottle of Sam Adam's Oktoberfest. I consumed the balance. Big mistake. My stomach was tied up in knots for a few hours. Too bad. Oktoberfest was my favorite brew.
17 posted on 11/09/2008 9:08:48 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
"I ceased drinking beer to avoid the gluten."

I ceased drinking beer to avoid waking up in strange houses. I ceased drinking scotch to avoid waking up in strange countries.

18 posted on 11/09/2008 9:14:07 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Has nothing to do with behavior modification and all to do with taxing something they figure has enough inelastic demand to make it work despite losing some of the users because of the increased tax.


19 posted on 11/09/2008 9:20:41 PM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: castlebrew

I propose a tax on californians. Whenever they try to leave their state, they get taxed up the wazoo. Whenever they try to export any of their stuff to the other 49 states, they get taxed up the wazoo. Forget about the border with mexico, we need to wall off the republic of kalifornia.


20 posted on 11/09/2008 9:20:55 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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