Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.
The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
.. and welcome to the f’n exit door
Nope, it is right on. The problem is we have a fickle Supreme Court, that regularly alter the constitution, McCain's campaign finance law, that GW deemed unconstitutional, but signed it anyway.
“We have to get back to the solutions business. Not the hate or smear business.”
I really do not hate nor smear, but I do have lots of unanswered questions concerning Senator Obama. Maybe you can help us find some answers and help us perhaps get some information that will answer the many questions. The list below posted by another Freeper would be a good start. If Senator Obama would make the following available many quetions could be answered.
Original birth certificate ——————————————Unavailable
Obama/Dunham marriage license -————————Unavailable
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license ———————— Unavailable
Soetoro adoption records-————————————— Unavailable
Dept.of Education Hawaii Kindergarten Records-—Unavailable
Punahou School records-——————————————Unavailable
Occidental College records —————————————Unavailable
Passport (Pakistan) -———————————————— Unavailable
Columbia College ——————————————————Unavailable
Columbia thesis ———————————————————Unavailable
(Topic: Nuclear Disarmament, written during Cold War ’83)
Harvard College records -——————————————Unavailable
Harvard Law Review articles ———————————— Unavailable
(Evidence that one may have been written, yet it is unsigned)
Baptism certificate ——————————————————Unavailable
Medical records -———————————————————Unavailable
Illinois State Senate records -————————————None
Illinois State Senate schedule ————————————Lost
Law practice client list ———————————————— Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles –—————— None on file
Indonesian Besuki School Application—————————Located
(Enrolled with name Barry Soetoro-faith “Islam”)
Selective Service Registration- -— Released, but suspected as fraudulent
This is how my teacher explained the diferent types of citizens to us when I was a child. First she told us that there were three types of citizenship status by U.S. birth or parentage, by naturalization, and natural born which was by both parentage and birth combined. (Donofrio mentions four, but he just separated the first category into two.)
In my example Mrs. Smith was born in Germany and is still a German citizen. Mrs. Smith is married to Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith was born in Texas, and his parents are U.S. citizens too, so he is a “natural born” citizen. Mr. and Mrs. Smith have a son born in the United States. The son is a citizen by birth because he was born in the United States but he is not a “natural born” citizen because his parents each bestow their citizenship on the child, so the son can not grow up to be President. Mrs. Smith later becomes a U.S. Citizen. She is a Naturalized citizen. The son, however, still can’t grow up to be President since at birth he had divided loyalties and can never be considered a “natural born” citizen.
Now if both Mr. and Mrs. Smith were both German citizens, but were living in the United States, their child would still be a U.S. citizen by birth on U.S. soil, but he is still not a natural born citizen because both is parents are German citizens, and therefore their citizenship is bestowed on their child.
If Mr. Smith was a U.S. citizen and Mrs. Smith was a German citizen and they lived in Germany when their son was born, their son would be a U.S. citizen by his father’s parentage or by blood, since the father bestowed his U.S. Citizenship on his son. The son could not be president, however, because the mother also bestows her citizenship on the child and because he was born on foreign soil.
I hope this helps people to understand the different types of citizenship. In summary you need two parents to be U.S. Citizens at the time of your birth and you must be born on U.S. soil to be a “natural born” citizen.
Donofrio’s case rests on Obama’s British and/or Kenyan citizenship by birth as the reason he is not qualified to serve as President. He claims that it doesn’t matter if Obama was born in the U.S. because his father bestowed foreign citizenship on him at birth so while he would be likely be considered a U.S. citizen even though his mother was only 18, he is not a natural born citizen because his father was a citizen of a foreign country at the time of his birth.
The Socialist party candidate was born on foreign soil by two foreign parents, so he clearly can’t be qualified even though he is a naturalized U.S. citizen.
Donofrio’s suit further claims that even though McCain’s parents were U.S. citizens at the time of his birth, he was born on foreign soil, therefore he is a citizen by blood but not a “natural born” citizen.
I think I have stated it all correctly for those of you who can’t get on to Donofrio’s web page or listen to the tapes. I hope this helps. If any of the Freepers interpret things differently that I did, please feel free to state what you think. I promise I won’t be offended if I didn’t state something quite right.
Yay! The fake Conservative is gone, he is no more.
Remembers what?
You are very welcome!
Found this thread on the Andy Martin case in HI, but not much news. No decision yet. This thread talks more about Martin than the case he filed to get the Obama BC released.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2134526/posts
It's seems IMPOSSIBLE that the GOP would sit on their fat arses twiddling their thumbs as a con artist like BO runs for prez with a list of missing items like this. How can this possibly be?
Leo Donofrio’s NJ case is now docketed for SCOTUS is now “Distributed for Conference”. Find out more here:
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/
This is starting to gain steam. Wonder when the MSM will start reporting on this?
The MSM will not report on it because they think that it will be thrown out and they do not want to add fuel to the fire.
The Governor of Hawaii has certified we have the birth certificate. That seems to be enough for the right wing radio guys and gals. I’m very disappointed! No one wants to be the wing nut that hunts this thing down. Sad.
FROM LEO’S WEB SITE:
Today, the United States Supreme Court scheduled the case - Leo C. Donofrio v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey - US Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407 - for a conference of the nine Justices.
If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College.
The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the “national election” pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.
Leo Donofrio brought his case from a lower New Jersey court to the NJ Supreme Court - was denied - and then he filed an emergency stay application in the United States Supreme Court on Nov. 3, 2008, before the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter. Justice Souter denied the emergency stay application on Nov. 6.
Leo Donofrio renewed the application, as per Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by way of Express mail on Nov. 14. The application arrived at the Supreme Court on Nov. 17 and was submitted directly to Justice Thomas.
On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008. It is not known at this time the exact details of how the case came to be “DISTRIBUTED for Conference”.
I posted it below as took me a long time to access his site and knew others would have a problem too! So happy as this is GOOD NEWS!
Prayers up. Go Leo
Thanks for the information on the Martin Case....If you find anymore please ping me.
For sure, or is it just the same old BS that Fukino has been saying. So lets see the thing.
Yes, it was a fake. Heard it from Berg’s assistant
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