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1 posted on 11/15/2008 8:29:50 AM PST by re_tail20
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go back to the m-14


2 posted on 11/15/2008 8:30:34 AM PST by rightwinggoth
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reconfigure the M4 to fire a 6.5mm grendal.


3 posted on 11/15/2008 8:30:45 AM PST by Perdogg (Gov Sarah Palin - President 2012)
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Look here.

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=975


4 posted on 11/15/2008 8:37:30 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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They should just change the gas system. Replace the gas tube with a gas piston. That will keep it a lot cleaner and more reliable.


8 posted on 11/15/2008 8:46:34 AM PST by Roklok
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Looks like a small chance it might actually finally happen

I think that if the M-4 and the M-16 had undergone proper trials that they both would have been weeded out.

It’s their operating system. Propellant gas not only builds up in the receiver, making it more likely to jam, but gradually wears away the existent parts in the receiver. Heckler and Koch confirmed this in their own trials on the M4 when coming up with their HK 416, and this is something neither the Army’s Ordnance Corp did in the 1960’s or PEO Soldier has done

The operating system for every main assault rifle should be based around a gas piston. If you want to have rifles with direct impingement systems as well, they should be relegated to supporting roles.


10 posted on 11/15/2008 8:48:22 AM PST by re_tail20
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What about a leap in technology? Case less ammunition?
Any word on something completely new?
18 posted on 11/15/2008 8:53:47 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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By the time 0bama is through gutting the military they’ll probably be throwing rocks at the enemy.


19 posted on 11/15/2008 8:54:06 AM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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In the upcoming Obama regime, the only equipment that the military will be need are many boxes of white flags.....


20 posted on 11/15/2008 8:55:01 AM PST by RonboTex (Go ahead... Make my day.)
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The new administration will probably replace these with BB guns.


22 posted on 11/15/2008 8:56:28 AM PST by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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Um...can I have one of the old M-4’s when they junk ‘em?


26 posted on 11/15/2008 8:58:53 AM PST by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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Many in the Army have tried to find a better rifle only to have the Army brass stomp on such efforts. Now we have this idiot come forward as though it is his big idea. He’s probably one of those that prevented such efforts.


28 posted on 11/15/2008 9:01:21 AM PST by CodeToad
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Put .308 uppers on them and be done with it.

Saves money and addresses the need for more knockdown power.


34 posted on 11/15/2008 9:03:45 AM PST by 2111USMC
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The new FN SCAR, in its various configurations, should replace all versions of the M-16, which was only adopted because Robert McNamara had friends at Colt. In terms of stopping power and reliability it is clearly inferior to what came before. True, it's lightweight and has little recoil, but so what? Those are secondary considerations. Can it kill? Yes, but not as effectively as a bigger-bore weapon, and not as reliably as other systems. Those are the things that count.

Our main battle rifle should be chambered for the 7.62x51, with the 5.56x45 reserved for specialized applications (the reverse of today).

46 posted on 11/15/2008 9:34:54 AM PST by Batrachian
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The Magpul Masada now called the Bushmaster ACR is a great design along with the FN SCAR. 6.5mm cartridges have all the benefits of the 7.62 NATO plus have less recoil, use less powder and metal, and more can be carried. I like the specs of the 6.5X47 Lapua, it looks like it would more reliably feed at full auto than the Grendel.

Archy a while back posted an article on an experimental 6.25mm round the Brits looked at. The results were very interesting and that was before the modern powders we have now.

The HK 416 is just a repackaged Stoner AR-18 gas system with a ridiculous price tag, and slick marketing. HK thinks civilians suck and they hate them.

If there ever is a replacement for the M-16/M-4 I really hope the military adopts a new cartridge. The adoption of the 5.56 was a bad decision and should have been changed a long time ago.


53 posted on 11/15/2008 10:14:36 AM PST by Tailback
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IDF TAVOR...


71 posted on 11/15/2008 10:36:28 AM PST by Thunder90
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Thanks guys real nice reading!


77 posted on 11/15/2008 11:34:02 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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84 posted on 11/15/2008 12:17:34 PM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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Forget it. The military will be lucky not to have their projectiles made from nerf foam.


85 posted on 11/15/2008 12:57:33 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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I look beyond my M4 whenever I line up the sights on a target.


87 posted on 11/15/2008 2:42:45 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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bttt


93 posted on 11/15/2008 7:47:52 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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