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Ayers and Dohrn on Weather Underground, McCain Campaign Attacks, Obama and Today's Antiwar Movement
Democracy Now ^ | November 16, 2008 | Transcript

Posted on 11/16/2008 8:13:53 AM PST by callisto

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But they didn't kill anybody. She may have, and others in the group or allied groups or their idols did, usually first sign of authority, police. She called the police pigs. I wonder what or who planted the seeds in their minds and how when? I'd be the last to say everything about our system is ideal, but we have all enjoyed the fruits of others' labor, even though we labored ourselves, even the poorest among us.

If it hadn't been Vietnam, it would have been something else. Rebels always need a cause.

I'm trying to figure out what they hope to achieve now and how. Anybody heard of how Patty Hearst is doing now and if she ever got deprogrammed (Stockholm Syndrome)?

41 posted on 11/16/2008 10:12:27 AM PST by Aliska
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To: callisto

What does any of this have to do with democracy? The SDS and the Weather Underground never favored democracy. They favored an authoritarian leftist state, which they deigned to call “democracy”. Democracy is the enemy of the leftist, since it grants people the power to disagree with the leftist.


42 posted on 11/16/2008 10:14:49 AM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: Aliska
he ever got deprogrammed (Stockholm Syndrome

This is what I find pretty fascinating. A grown man, who has been nothing short of successful despite the fact that he should be in prison--still holds these views. He hasn't matured, his perspective hasn't changed, not maturation of thought. Leads me to really believe everything Yuri Bezmenov said in that video about demoralization that floats around the net.

"You are stuck with them. You can't get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior"

43 posted on 11/16/2008 10:18:32 AM PST by riri
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Democracy, in this sense, hinges on the interplay between language and thought. The word’s meaning is being corrupted for extremists’ purposes. Similar to how red now representing Repubs and blue, Dems. We all know that the Dems are really “red” but it is to their advanyage to remove such an obvious association with their true ideals as the color “red” represents. IMO it goes hand-in-hand with their takeover of the public education system.

“if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.”


44 posted on 11/16/2008 10:39:51 AM PST by callisto ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

45 posted on 11/16/2008 10:41:11 AM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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Hanging is too good for them.


46 posted on 11/16/2008 2:06:06 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Ayers and Dohrn are now licking their chops and talk as though they have been vindicated. Who would have thought they would see this day?


47 posted on 11/16/2008 2:52:52 PM PST by balls (From each according to his ability. To each according to his need - Karl Marx/Obama)
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“The word’s meaning is being corrupted for extremists’ purposes. Similar to how red now representing Repubs and blue, Dems. We all know that the Dems are really “red” but it is to their advanyage to remove such an obvious association with their true ideals as the color “red” represents. IMO it goes hand-in-hand with their takeover of the public education system.”

There are actually a number of Freepers who have pointed this out.


48 posted on 11/16/2008 5:46:20 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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Indeed. A few more could boldly start a movement to stop using the newsspeak colors. I and a couple others can’t do it alone, y’know... ;-)


49 posted on 11/16/2008 5:49:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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Agreed. We should no longer allow the left to define and corrupt our language. It should be one of the first steps in taking back our country! What better place to begin than on FR?


50 posted on 11/16/2008 6:04:27 PM PST by callisto ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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Precisely. Unfortunately, there’s far too many on here that won’t stop the usage. To be perfectly honest, I find the usage has moved (to me) from being minor irritation (during the ‘00 election and immediately afterwards) to being outright offensive. I don’t like snapping at fellow Conservatives over this, but when I see a heavily GOP area (state, county, what-have-you) labelled chirpily as “Red” by one of ours, I’m seriously about ready to choke somebody.


51 posted on 11/16/2008 6:22:23 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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Perhaps we can get Fox News to switch. It would be a start.


52 posted on 11/16/2008 7:37:33 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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Good luck with that. “Fair and balanced” was in the bag for the False Messiah.


53 posted on 11/16/2008 7:51:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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“Perhaps we can get Fox News to switch.”

That’s a good one!!

If the party itself doesn’t change it............

http://www.nrsc.org/races/


54 posted on 11/17/2008 7:37:41 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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