Posted on 11/18/2008 7:10:04 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu
Is Obama black? It depends on who - and when - you ask.
For some of us, the heralding of Barack Obama as the first black president of the United States seems a rather uncontroversial claim.
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The bulk of the people protesting against references to Obama as a black man, however, grant that he is "part" black (by way of his father), but assert that because he also has a white mother it is not "accurate" to call him black.
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For us, being black and mixed-race are not mutually exclusive. We have learned to live with the contradictions.
Perhaps it's time for everyone else to learn to live with them too.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
Now, I'm not sure whether the people posting those questions actually look at a guy who is half white and half black and see a 'white' man - so whether or not they are posing that question because they don't know the answer/actually believe that a sizable amount of Americans would see a 'white' man in Obama, or something, but I'll just point out this:
I strongly doubt that white racists are overjoyed that America has kept the unbroken line of white leadership with the election of the forty-fourth white President. Yet on the other hand, I strongly expect black racists to be ecstatic that 'Brother Barack' has broken the chain of white rule and is set to become the first black President.
And I bet you that a super-majority (over 60%) of 'interracial' people who are part white do not consider themselves to be white, without disowning their white ancestors, in large part because society did not consider them white to begin with.
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And who'd have thought that a government-owned news source that permits its articles to be bookmarked on Delicious would have to be excerpted.....
He is Halfrican American
I don’t give a blank if he’s Negro, caucausian, Arabic, some mixture. We’re supposed to be passed all this racial nonsense.
I oppose him because he’s way too liberal for my taste. I don’t think we should agonize over his race background. Let’s agonize and strategize how to counteract where he wants to take this country.
Red
Close enough for government work.
Red, Green and Yellow
He was when guilty white America voted for him, but probably not enough to put the manufactured struggle to rest.
I don’t know, and don’t care.
I’d rather know that my CIC is actually, you know, _qualified_ to be my CIC.
In terms of race, he is what the Brazilians would call a "pardo."
I always loved how the "one drop rule" never applies to Latinos. Most Puerto Ricans and Dominicans have black ancestors, but are not considered black (like the Halfrican Obama).
12% black, 38% Arab, 50% White does not a black man make, IMO.
He looks more like Opie than Oprah
Doesn’t matter what color or gender, as long as we see eye to eye on most things. Too bad that’ll never happen with me and Obama.
what does the US census say he is? Mixed race
Immediately after looking at the picture, and before some of you go superficially 'Aww, how sweet', take note of the emotions and feelings the scene evokes in you; could be quite enlightening.
Ready, set, go:
Why is Obama considered ‘black’, but not ‘white’?
He probably would be called white if his skin was white.
Not all mixed race people turn out black or a shade of brown.
I think he should be called warbl. (white arab black) blarawhit?
as it comes from his own purple lips, he is a MUTT.
After January if painting crew goes to work painting the place gray we will know what he considers himself.
To me he’s a mulatto which wouldn’t have been tollerated when I was growing up.
I couldn’t give a crap less about his ‘color’. What I do care about is his political philosophy, and it’s distinctly RED.
And the other half is European-American. How come no one is excited about that? (Sarcasm off)
In most of Latin America he would be classified as a Mulatto (half white, half black),if his father had been Amerindian he would be classified as a mestizo, except in Argentina which created the classification that if you were half white you are classified as white, in effect eliminating the mulatto and mestizo classifications. The reason for that was to attract European immigration to the country (it worked).
He said he was a mutt and I believe him. In any event, these are the kinds of issues that take the focus off hand about acorn, election fraud, campaign contribution fraud, amnesty of illegal aliens for starters and how the msm shoud be feeling the pinch of the fairness doctrine since i should work both ways (not one) and how they refused to report on critical issues and for those who are looking into the birth certificate thing or even more issues that I did not list here. Race is just a sideline to divert attention way from the more important issues. The quicker people look at this man as a regular President and take race out of the equation, the quicker he comes off of the pedestal.
I don’t give a damn what race he is, it is how ‘red’ he is that disturbs me.
Bill Clinton was proclaimed the first black President.
He’s a radical socialist. Nothing else matters.
Oh, for Pete’s sake...not this sh*t again.
He is NOT 38% Arab.
Look at his dad. that dude was BLACK. As black as any black man I’ve ever seen. No way he was anything but a black man.
Sure he might have had some Arab in there somewhere, but Arabic was by no means a majority of Barack Senior’s ancestry.
What’s the picture? Is that baby Obama or something?
I have no problem with Obama being black. Its the part that he’s an Arab that I have problem with. And I’ll explain why in just a few numbers: 911.
According to official Democrat Party 19th century rules, if you have 1/8 Negro blood, you are considered a Negro. The question is, was Barry’s father a Negro?
The drop of blood rule. Anybody with any black is considered black in the US.
calico
The fact that the Obama worship focuses on his skin color, only proves that dems and libs are racist. It’s the person inside that is important. If he were not a marxist, I would’t give a hoot if he was green. I would welcome a conserative president of any background! That being said first...should we average white people be offended that The One totally ignores his white American relatives(other than when he throws them under the bus)?
Amen.
The only thing so far that I like about Obumanation and his Janet Reno-ish looking wife is those darling two lil girls.
It would suck to have parents like O and M.
Good Karma the girls grow up and choose to become Catholic Conseratives.
Interesting speculation. I tend to think otherwise. But... I'm interracial, yet I consider myself "white". But it took me a while to reach that conclusion. My dad is white (German-American), and my mom is Japanese. I have 4 siblings, and we all look different. Me and 2 sisters have white features, and 2 sisters have asian features. When I was young I had blond hair and hazel-green eyes, another sister has blue eyes. But my dad (career military man) wasn't at home all the time, and in the 1950's we were looked after by my mom and her Japanese-only-speaking parents, so we picked up a lot of Japanese culture. When young, I considered myself asian.
But as an adult, others considered me white, and were shocked to discover I was half-Japanese. When I got a job in government, I got a call from the HR chief complaining that I filled out my paperwork incorrectly. In the 1970's under "Race" there were only a few choices, and you were limited to checking only one box. I checked "Asian". The man ended up arguing with me that I was white (he welcomed me aboard the 1st day of employment). We argued for over half an hour. I told him I was half white, but I was also half asian. And my Japanese mother raised me, I spoke Japanese and knew the culture, so who was he to tell me which half I could choose? He finally gave in to my choice.
As I got older I soon learned that it isn't your race that determines what you are. It's your culture. And immersed in a culture of predominantly white-type Americans, I was for all intents and purposes predominantly "white". Society did not consider me asian to begin with. I wish society could move beyond tagging people with racial labels, and just use moral tags (nice/good/bad/evil etc.). I think a person's morals are more important than their skin color.
He will not release his US Census.
What’s Black & White and Red all over?
Mutt.
I’ve wondered the same thing when I hear members of the black community say things that try to wipe out his white side as if he didn’t have one. Why do they think he has to deny the white side and totally embrace his black side? It’s because those in the black community that ask this of him are racists. We will never get past racial issues as long as they have that view point. IMO
I can understand the 50% percent white from his mother, but how were those other percentages calculated?
That's Obama and his grandfather Dunham, his Mom's dad.
I didn’t post this thread. O looks nothing like the Kenyan- absolutely NOTHING. He does strongly resemble MalcolmX, who may well have been in the Seattle area when O’s mother was. His history is so convoluted, who can say with any certainty WHAT this guy is>?
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