Posted on 11/28/2008 12:57:36 PM PST by jay1949
The question of Barack Obama’s citizenship, and his eligibility to hold the office of President of the United States, has become the election-year issue that will not die. Quite a few Obama opponents are holding on to the eligibility issue as the last chance to keep him out of the White House. They have placed their faith in lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility, and particularly the Berg lawsuit; but it will turn out that such faith is misplaced.
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“Also he uses birth announcements in HI papers that prove nothing.”
The address of the birth announcement does not make sense. The house was never lived in by her parents according to all family accounts that have been made public and was way out of price range even for a rental for an African student on a scholarship and a teenage mother. There is a small guest house on the property but considering the affluence of the neighborhood and the owner who could afford to live there, I think it highly unlikely that it would have been rented out to this particular odd couple. The only possible scenario that I can imagine is if it were owned by friends of her parents who were willing to let them have it for a while. It was also about 7 miles from the U of HI where O Sr. was going and all his known residences were in the vicinity of the University. So I think someone, maybe her mother, just picked an address to put in the announcement.
O Sr’s Honolulu friends, when interviewed about their time together back then, do not mention her as part of their association at all after their alleged marriage—I think because she wasn’t there. In the photos of him with other students she is not present. I don’t think they ever lived together as a family by the time or after baby Barry was born. She showed up in Seattle at her friend’s house with teeny baby Barry and was enrolled in the U or WA for the fall semester.
The democrats need more time to solve the economic problems. Should have it done by the 9th.
It's related to the swearing in of the new Congress, which would normally be Jan. 3. In 2009, the 3rd falls on a Sunday, and Congress doesn't work weekends, so they pushed back both dates (sorry, I can't remember what date the swearing-in has been moved to, offhand.)
All of the candidates and their respective tickets would be disqualified due to the fact that they would have been ineligible to be on the ticket in the first place.If that's the case then definitely nothing will come of The Annointed One's lack of proper US citizenship. No Supreme Court Justice, or anyone else in any position of power, is going to take the side of the US Constitution against The One.
Supreme Court justices have job security, They can do what they think is right. However, it’s obvious they don’t all follow the constitution. Maybe if we had an international law about who could be president, Kennedy and Ginsberg would enforce that.
That was written by a Democrat. The U.S. Supreme Court can take away Obama’s eligibility leaving the Electoral College to vote in McCain. If it goes to The House, they would only have McCain to vote for.... McCain could very well be the 44th President.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
U. S. Electoral College
Public Law 110-430 changed the date of the electoral vote in Congress in 2009 from January 6 to January 8. This date change is effective only for the 2008 ...
We are all just trying to sort out the facts, but we are amongst friends.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008/dates.html
SCOTUS has hearings scheduled on at least one of the 3 cases so far before them. The hearing will be held Dec. 5. In the meantime, refer to post 15 and help out-please.
“Obama can’t be a naturalized citizen, because he has never gone through the naturalization process. He’s either a (natural born) citizen or he’s not a citizen at all.”
Please tell me how you know he has never gone through the naturalization process. He does very well at keeping all documents sealed or unavailable. Actually it would not matter as a naturalized citizen is not a natural born citizen which one must be to be President according to the Constitution. He is a citizen of the US if he was born in Hawaii, but he is not a natural born citizen due to his father being a british subject when Obama was born.
I have only one birth certificate. Guess Obama has two. One that came to light from Daily Kos, and another on that is presently sealed in Hawaii. Are they both the same? If they are the same, why does he seal one and spend so much money on attorneys to keep it sealed? If they are not the same, how is the sealed one different than the one from Daily Kos and Obama’s web site? Just wondering.
Do you have to be an “Obama opponent” to think it’s very strange that the new president won’t show his original birth certificate? And that he spends tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers to avoid the issue?
Here’s the problem: If the Supreme Court rules that Obama is ineligible BEFORE the electors vote, then they can vote for someone else - - no one is bound to vote for McCain, not even his pledged electors. So I think the Democratic electors would get together and choose Hillary Clinton. If there is a declaration of ineligibility after the electoral vote but before Congress counts the votes in January, then (assuming all electoral votes are cast as pledged) McCain is the only remaining eligible candidate.
I agree that it is strange that Obama won’t release the original b.c. On the other hand, the lawyers are fighting the cases on procedural grounds, which is not strange at all. Standard operating procedure.
Unless, of course, you think that Mr. Chief Justice John Marshall was right all those years ago. On the other hand, if you’re willing to ignore Marbury vs. Madison and all these years of constitutional jurisprudence, that is, you’re willing to be both ignorant and and arrogantly dispositive of the Constitution in favor of the mob rule of pure democracy that the Founders feared, then you might regard it as well thought out.
How long have you been posting on Free Republic?
We’d be curious to know.
President Joe Biden.
Roll that across your tongue and see how it tastes.”
NOT SO SURE:
Biden was CHOSEN by NObama- who has been an unelgiible candidate from the beginning.
Biden didn’t win the primaries....
The two on the ticket are tied together.
If NObama is declared not eligible, then Biden is out of there.
Electoral voters have to vote without voting anything for NObama, as he is not eligible.
It isn’t “non-justiciable,” if by that you refer to “standing” in the case of Alan Keyes and those who have joined with him.
And everyone in the Dunham/Obama extended family seems willing to lie at the drop of a hat.’
They lie or they DIE.
If the U.S. Supreme Court rules Obama ineligible before the Electoral College, the only other candidate with Electoral votes would be McCain. They could only vote on McCain. It would be like the Obama ticket never existed. Up in the air might be what would happen to Biden. He might be the V.P. or the whole ticket might be disqualified.
The Constitution must be honored.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
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