Posted on 11/29/2008 10:08:31 AM PST by redk
So, Kathleen Parker has determined that getting rid of social conservatives and shelving the values they fight for is the solution to what ails the Republican Party (“Giving Up on God,” Nov. 19). Isn’t that a little like Benedict Arnold handing George Washington a battle plan to win the Revolution?
Whatever she once was, Ms. Parker is certainly not a conservative anymore....
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Dobson lost much credibility for endorsing MccAin't at all. He did himself, and the Conservative cause no favor in doing so whatsoever.
>>>>Conservatism is not a religion, but if it is anything, it cannot table the religious questions.<<<<<
Yes, I’m afraid it can, for the precise reason that it is not a religion and is not called upong to answer religious issues.
Nor is the GOP a podium for religious doctrine.
Period.
Dobson knows conservative. It’s Parker and her ilk and religion haters and discounters everywhere who have no idea what conservative means.
>>>>Proof that you didn’t read: Religion and the Founding of the American Republic<<<<<<
Not in the entirety, of course not.
But I skimmed it and get your point.
Still, see my tagline.
I dispute it, we dispute it.
You cannot have a content neutral government when it treats issues that concern our religious nature.
If you want to claim that people aren’t religious, you are mistaken.
If you want to claim that their religion doesn’t matter, you are deceived and deceiving.
I hope you don’t make any of those claims.
Dobson endorsed Palin. McCain got the nod purely because he chose Palin. Up to that point, he wasn’t going to get it from Dobson.
Nor from me.
McCain’s loss had nothing to do with Dobson. McCain ran a lousy campaign. He wouldn’t tackle issues like life, abortion, gay marriage, guns, self-defense, morality, terrorism, past associations, and congressional hands that were covered with mortgage blood.
I’m still not convinced he wasn’t trying to lose.
Without libertarianism and social conservatism, there are no other priorities. If one does not fully protect the Constitution and the Judeo-Christian ethic upon which, and in which that Constitution was founded, there will be no other resolution possible, because nothing is beyond the scope of enterprise or government.
It is your priorities which must be re-examined. It is precisely because there is no longer any sort of social conscience, and no respect for the rule of law that we find ourselves where we are today- And further, to our shame, it is largely the Republicans in collusion who have lead us to this place. The Conservatives lent them power in expectation of certain and particular things- All of which are betrayed. That expectation was for naught.
It is time for new beginnings, and all things must begin with conscience and honor. In the political realm, on the right, that is to be found in the Libertarians and the Social Conservatives. Law and Ethics. Worry about those two, lift up the House of Reagan, and there will be success beyond your dreams.
>>>>>You cannot have a content neutral government when it treats issues that concern our religious nature.<<<<<
Yes you can. The government should not be involved in religious issues.
>>>>I hope you don’t make any of those claims.<<<<
I most certainly did not.
I said that Conservatism is not a religious philosophy, and the GOP is not a platform for religious doctrine.
>>>>>>>Dobson knows conservative. <<<<<
Didn’t Dobson back Huckster Gantry the Socialist?
You are wholly and absolutely incorrect. The Christian view is the correct one from a Constitutional and libertarian point of view on the two issues I suppose you are referring to- namely Abortion and the protection of marriage, albeit for different reasons. Especially wrt Life, the pseudo-federalists have no idea what damage they cause.
I have every confidence that these issues, had the founding fathers the advantage of prescience, would have been written as boldly as possible into the very foundations of the Constitution. After all, Life itself, certainly is already, and yet everyone from the left to the right try to ignore that very fact- Even though it is defined there explicitly and is enumerated as coming from God Almighty Himself. No man has the right to take life from another without due process of law, period.
See my tagline, LOL.
Sure he did, with distaste. Which Pro-Choice candidate did you expect him to endorse?
I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Are you? Do you think that people who believe in limiting the size and scope of the federal government as was the intent of our forefathers believe murder should be legal? That we should be a country with no laws? What do you mean that size doesn’t determine justice, it’s the other way around?
The American form of limited government is impossible without Social Conservatism. Reagan knew that, why don't you?
[...] rather than shrinking the reach of government so that individuals have the right to reject and demonize evils like abortion and open homosexuality, conservatism will lose.
Abortion and homosexuality were unthinkable here for better than four hundred years. They were always wholly and utterly against the law for all that time, and yet suddenly now, people must be free to choose. That is idiocy. It is lunatic. It is like saying people must be free to choose murder and pedophilia.
All I need to point out is this:
Are you glad that McCain got the nomination?
Read any Plato?
The government is involved in religious issues, by nature.
For government concerns people, and people are by nature religious.
No,, they are not. They are always there. Our American ideals,, freedom, liberty will never die. They are there continually just waiting for a people to grasp them!
Our history is filled with examples of terrible trials our people have faced,, and yet overcame. It is not up to the majority,, it is up to a determined people.
It has always been up to a determined people!
I do not believe our nation is finished and I will not participate in speaking its end!
If there is no other voice in the nation to speak of liberty, freedom and of Jesus Christ,, than I will be that last voice! I alone will carry the torch for the next generation that will rise to save America! I am not trying to sound arrogant here, or think of myself as anything special,, but there are some things I will not speak!
One thing I learned in life,, if you are going to take the hill,, you take the hill! You do not have the attitude,, "Oh well, lets just take that hill,, it's pointless and we will all die, but lets just try anyway." No,, you take the hill! I may die taking the hill, but I will die with my face pointing toward the top and with the attitude the hill is mine! That is the true American spirit!
I believe there is a great revival coming that will drastically change the political landscape of America! We were founded as a Christian nation by a people with little more than their Bibles, guns and determination and deep yearning for freedom! God has had His hand on America. It will not be saved any other way. If America is to endure,, it will be by the preaching of the gospel of Jesus Christ,, a revival in our churches which will lead to a revival in our colleges, in our communities and in our cities,, which will in turn reawaken an understanding of good government!
2 Corinth 3:17:"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."
This is the time for a people to shine! God bless American!"
I think I understand the ‘universal’ issue 0bama was speaking of: death and taxes.
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