Posted on 11/30/2008 8:52:04 AM PST by maquiladora
The average Pakistani is far more anti-American than the average Iraqi. A few of our fellow Americans who are very special constituents have stayed rich due to business with Pakistan for a long time.
Pakistan also has oil, and more importantly, some extra-lucrative oil trade agreements for certain foreign partners.
The government of Somalia weeps for the victims of piracy as well. Who gives a sht what their government says. What can they do to impress upon the attitudes that spawned such madness to change their ways? Bust a cap in some rumps, that’s what. If that doesn’t start happening fast, if Pakistan’s government doesn’t start killing the troublemakers among it own people fast, India might be excused for taking matters into it’s own hands.
First of all the word confiscate implies taking by force. Second Pakistan isn't the only potentially hostile nuclear power in the region. There's the small matter of China for India to worry about. They'll never de-nuclearize voluntarily.
It would not fly. Pakistan maybe, India no.
Pakistan feels it needs nukes to defend against India. India needs nukes to defend against Pakistan AND China.
India's problem is that it needs a proficient, modern army, but the idea of lots of young men with excellent military training rotating back into civilian life at the end of their terms might makes the oligarchy very nervous.
Umm,India built its nukes with China in mind.And China is Pakistan’s largest arms supplier and the origin of its nuke programme. The last two times India and Pakistan have gone to war, the PRC under limited mobilisations on India’s eastern border.
That’s China’s dog in all this.
I don't think the Paki gov has much control over their own intelligence service, either.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in groups.
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> if Pakistans government doesnt start killing the troublemakers among it own people fast, India might be excused for taking matters into its own hands.
That would be a very dangerous time for everybody.
What a shame: Pakistan plays an exciting game of cricket, and it’s cricket season now.
The intelligence service is part of the Pakistani army. The army is bigger than the government. Pakistan’s problem is not the ISI, but the fact that it is an army with a country.
Probably not the actual government, but groups reporting to the government have been suspect for a long time; personally, I think they will rue the day they got rid of Musharaff.
Isn't it conveinient that most of the terrorists faces were blown away beyond recognition ? thats what it said in another artical i read just this morning ...
Doctors shocked at hostages's torture (Mumbai attacks)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2140350/posts
The doctors who conducted the post mortem said the bodies of the terrorists were beyond recognition. "Their faces were beyond recognition."
On the contrary, I think that Pakistan is operating as a Chinese client state.
If china tries to pull something...goodbye china.
Really? Who is going to do that? The US? Forget it.
Well, then, they better get control or let people in who will clean it up.
My dad was an army grunt at one of the Nevada above ground tests. He stayed in the trench until the pressure wave passed over head. He did get knocked forward by the implosion though. He says staying in the trench an extra 20 seconds before climbing out saved him. The guys who went up and took the pressure wave in the face got full rads. They had to wear the arm band radiation monitors but that was later denied for benefits by the military.
Dad also took the three day pass to Las Vegas rather than bivouac on the desert floor next to the bomb site like a lot did. Also a smart move. But yeah, the effects were all contained locally from what they say.
Seriously, you can buy anything you want in Pakistan. They are world famous for their open air gun bazaars.
They even have 'curio and relics' specialists, just like here!
First, this entity would have to seek and gain permission from both governments virtually simultaneously for this to work. Trust at the international level you are considering is nonexistent. So creating the political infrastructure to accomplish this goal will take some time.
The sort of time required simply does not exist in this particular crisis. That means that this entity will have to act without the permission or advance knowledge of the parties to be entered.
There is only one way to do that - militarily.
There is no single entity on the face of this globe that could militarily enter and quell the immediate governmental responses that this entity would encounter.
Stop and think for a minute about what it would take to mount a successful campaign against two nuclear capable countries. I won't bore you with all the details, but it would require most of our CVNs just to clear the path, and more than one entire CVN battle group would be lost because resistance at this level would be swift, and nuclear.
Did I mention that one of these countries is a democracy? The largest of it's kind on the planet. Somewhere between two and three times our population.
Now, I ask you, how would you feel as the citizen you are, if shortly after 911 some extraterritorial entity such as you propose would have forcibly, physically entered the United States with the intent of removing our fissile material?
Translate however you may think about that to about 800+ million Indian citizens seeing you and your entity coming.
Good luck with that. :)
The Indian security forces appear to be incompetent cowards.
Nobody got rid of Musharraf-There’s only been one power centre in Pakistan since the 50s and its the army. The army asked Musharraf to quit in order to keep its reputation intact.Musharraf was never a one-man show, but part of a junta. Which still runs the country.
In other words, nothing has changed.
> Isn’t it conveinient that most of the terrorists faces were blown away beyond recognition ? thats what it said in another artical i read just this morning ...
It certainly is, and raises the question “why”?
And how would you have reacted if you were in their place??
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