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House of shattered dreams: US deports more and more Mexicans
M&C ^ | Nov 29, 2008

Posted on 11/30/2008 12:44:35 PM PST by NCjim

Tijuana - The double fence that separates Mexico from the United States near Tijuana is just a few hundred metres away from the Casa del Migrante - the migrant's house.

The white church of Father Luis Kendzierski, which sits on a hill and is visible from the city centre, is always surrounded by scores of people.

The men who approach the church have often lived and worked in the United States for up to 25 years before being picked up by police, taken before US immigration authorities and deported to Tijuana.

In the migrants' home there is accommodation for up to 400 men. They can stay there for 12 days and get food and clothing, as well as being enabled to phone their relatives in Mexico, to organize their forced trip home. And then they are taken home by bus.

'For most of them this is a catastrophe. They realize here that their dream is shattered,' Father Kendzierski said. 'After many years of work in the United States they return, not richer but older.'

The United States is not only sealing its southern border with a fence in order to stem the inflow of Mexicans and Central Americans. They have also tightened legislation in order to send back Latinos who have already reached the United States illegally.

Hundreds of thousands of people are being sent back along the 3,000-kilometre-long border. And given that the 'traditional' illegal gateways near cities have become insurmountable, migrants seek out more out-of-the-way places over dangerous, mountainous pathways into the United States.

In the first nine months of this year, some 97,000 Mexicans and Central Americans were arrested and sent back from the 120-kilometre stretch in Cochise County, Arizona alone.

'This is a lot more than last year,' said Gustavo Morales Cirion, the Mexican 'protection consul' in Douglas, Arizona, who is in charge of migrants.

In the whole Tucson sector the figure of returnees was as high as 266,000.

A wide range of people come together under Kendzierski's roof in Tijuana. However, they share similar lives: poverty and lack of prospects in southern Mexico, a dangerous, illegal way into the United States, many years of life and work with no rights - and deportation following a minor violation of the law.

There was Pablo, 26, from the southern Mexican state of Puebla. For eight years he earned 1,000 dollars per month as a construction worker in California without immigration papers, and he sent his family as much as he could. Given that he only ever worked with other Mexicans, he learnt no English.

He got caught because he jumped a red traffic light.

Or Victor, from Guatemala, who worked for 16 years for a security firm in Los Angeles - without documents. According to his own account, he was recently involved in a shooting, in which an attacker was killed. Victor was deported, not because he was involved in the death of a man, but because he was in the United States illegally. He does not want to return to Guatemala, and he is looking for work in Tijuana.

Juan, 19, arrived in the United States 18 years ago with his mother, when he was just 10 months old. He went to school despite being in the country illegally. His downfall was drinking a beer on the street and being caught by police.

Over the coming days, he was preparing to meet his grandparents for the first time. He was not sure when he will get to see his mother again.

Such histories repeat themselves thousands of times. Many illegal migrants remain in the United States undisturbed for years, because they are essential as a workforce.

In southern California, in San Diego, there are some 25,000 indigenous people from the southern Mexican state of Oaxaca. Most of them are 'indocumentados,' without papers. But even though they daily face the threat of deportation, over the years they have let down their guard enough to flaunt the rules and celebrate their cultural festivals out in the open.

They need something festive to make up for their dangerous crossings into the US and their illegal labour in the tomato, avocado and strawberry fields around San Diego. US farm owners, faced with immigration crackdowns, say they don't know who will harvest their crops.

With more than 11 million illegal immigrants in the US today, most of them from Latin America, it's a similar story in US construction sites, hotels and many other vibrant branches of the economy.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; crocodiletears; deported; getinline; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; soverysad
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1 posted on 11/30/2008 12:44:35 PM PST by NCjim
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To: NCjim

Awwwwwww shucks ........


2 posted on 11/30/2008 12:47:21 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: NCjim

Too little WAY too late. We are a few months away from O-Amnesty. We better be prepared to repeat the fight of last time. Don’t let it pass Congress.


3 posted on 11/30/2008 12:47:38 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: NCjim

They benefited while they were here, I don’t see what they’re complaining about.


4 posted on 11/30/2008 12:48:19 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: NCjim

This nonsense will cease Jan 21. The “Bienevidos a Partido Democratic” gift baskets are being assembled as we speak.


5 posted on 11/30/2008 12:48:50 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your power dry, folks)
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To: SolidWood

Watch Obama try to do it with an executive order.


6 posted on 11/30/2008 12:49:15 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: NCjim

boo-friggin-hoo.


7 posted on 11/30/2008 12:50:55 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: NCjim

Thanks for posting

These pro-illegal alien sob stories make me sick....the pro-illegal crowd could care less about legal immigrants or Americans who lives have been affected by criminal illegal aliens.

The new bigotry is from the pro-illegal alien crowd


8 posted on 11/30/2008 12:51:07 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (2010: A RINO Purge Odyssey)
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To: NCjim
US farm owners, faced with immigration crackdowns, say they don't know who will harvest their crops.

It is called Free Market Capitalism. Raise your pay until you have people who will work for you legally.

I'll pay the nickel a head of lettuce or so.

9 posted on 11/30/2008 12:52:47 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your power dry, folks)
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To: NCjim

They make is sound like this is a bad thing.


10 posted on 11/30/2008 12:54:17 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: NCjim

Omabam will reverse the trend while he taxes us to pay for his illegal DemocRAT voters.


11 posted on 11/30/2008 12:54:23 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: NCjim

‘After many years of work in the United States they return, not richer but older.’

That’s how most criminals leave prison. Don’t come here, respect our laws.


12 posted on 11/30/2008 12:55:23 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: NCjim
We're supposed to feel sorry for people who break our laws, abuse our hospitality, commit crimes while here, get away with not paying taxes, have their kids educated for free in our schools, get special tuition breaks when they reach college age, collect welfare, get free medical care and steal jobs from law-abiding and hard-working Americans? Puhleeaze! If anything, we're not doing enough to solve the problem.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 11/30/2008 12:55:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NCjim
Too little and too late...

I believe the demographics, culture, education, medical care, economy and political environment have already been impacted and damaged beyond restoration by the massive levels of illegal immigration from Central America, Asia and the Middle East ..

Those being “deported” represent no more that “eye candy” from those in Government worried about public sentiment...

More than enough will remain here on our welfare roles, in prisons, in schools, in hospitals, in crime gangs, in the drug trade. voting and continuing their dilution of the “American Uniqueness”.....

14 posted on 11/30/2008 12:55:48 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: SolidWood

As Mumbai proved — now we know the mass attack terror threat is real — Close the USA borders now, before it’s too late. Letting anyone just walk into the USA that wants to is suicide.


15 posted on 11/30/2008 12:56:36 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: NCjim

The second biggest myth (”climate crisis” is first) in this country is that these people want “a path to citizenship.” Mexicans love Mexico and their Mexican culture. They have absolutely NO INTEREST in becoming Americans. They only come to the U.S. for the big BUCKS! I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that the reason the Mexican government wants them “legalized” is so that they can tax (or extort) the money they make here and then send back to Mexico. That may sound dumb but the Mexican government is up to something with all their “immigration” crap.


16 posted on 11/30/2008 12:57:53 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For more information on America's "new direction" read The Road to Serfdom. by Friedrich A. Hayek.)
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To: NCjim
There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. According to this Daily Telegraph Article:
Since January, more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.
You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military. According to Mexicans their military has even become part of the problem. The US Border Patrol has complained to the Bush administration about Mexican military incursions to no avail.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says The liberal LA Times is now reporting that Mexico's drug wars are now north of the borders--but soto voce. Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

Yes, according Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC Alas, the Washington DC pictures have recently been taken down.

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs. One woman in San Francisco who had her family killed by an illegal is even demanding the city to drop its sanctuary city status. Illegals themselves have become the targets of kidnappers Mexican style in Arizona where drug money from south of the border is often parked.

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

That said, the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts. DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens. The Center For Immigration Studies has provided a detailed account of the illegal alien gang problem


17 posted on 11/30/2008 12:57:58 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: NCjim

I am so sorry for these folks, most who commit minor crimes such as rape, murder, and drug trafficking. I could see their deportation if they tortured puppies or committed hate crimes.

I hope they come back cause we don’t have enough slime running down our gutters.

/sarc


18 posted on 11/30/2008 12:58:07 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Shiite Muslim named Bob.)
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To: NCjim
In southern California, in San Diego, there are some 25,000 indigenous people from the southern Mexican state of Oaxaca. Most of them are 'indocumentados,' without papers. But even though they daily face the threat of deportation, over the years they have let down their guard enough to flaunt the rules and celebrate their cultural festivals out in the open.

Oh BARF! I read that to mean they don't give a crap if they are illegal or not.

19 posted on 11/30/2008 12:58:11 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: NCjim
Such histories repeat themselves thousands of times

Each and every one of them the history of a dishonest lying fraudulent criminal. Cry me a river.

20 posted on 11/30/2008 12:59:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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