Posted on 12/11/2008 10:11:00 AM PST by lilylangtree
OLYMPIA--Don't look for it to derail the inauguration next month, but people continue to try to stop the presidency of Barack Obama by questioning whether he is a "native born" American.
Thirteen Washington voters last week filed a lawsuit with the state Supreme Court trying to prevent Washington's 11 Electoral College delegates from officially casting their votes for Obama on Dec. 15.
". . . Our efforts to declare the ineligibility of the candidate Barack Hussein Obama for the office of President of the United States have been futile to date," the 13 wrote, saying that they have no choice but to turn to the state's highest court. They want a court order telling state election officials to "set aside" those Obama votes.
A superior court judge in King County rejected a similar challenge shortly before the election, and the U.S. Supreme court this week dismissed without comment a nearly identical case filed in New Jersey.
In every case, the primary allegations are that Obama's Hawaii birth certificate is fake, and that he was secretly born in Kenya. Another key contention is that as a child, he lost his U.S. citizenship while living briefly in Indonesia. (Similar allegations were raised about GOP candidate John McCain, who was born into a military family stationed in the Panama Canal Zone.
"The state's position is that the secretary of state has neither the authority nor the requirement to investigate the candidates' qualifications for president and vice president," said Dave Ammons, spokesman for Washington's top elections official, Secretary of State Sam Reed.
Yup! also the political dynamics—the Cascade Mtn Range splits the state north-south. On the east side of the range, the politics generally speaking is conservative. On the west side (where Seattle & Olympia are located) is demoncRAT and ultra liberal. Unfortunately, the population is the greatest on the west side. Therefore, the RATS dominate the politics. In a previous election, Sen. Slade Gorton (Rep) ran against Maria Cant”budget”well. She won and only carried two counties—King (Seattle) & Pierce; Gorton took the rest of the state and still lost.
That’s what happened with Bush in 2004. He won more counties in California, but the RATS all cluster in Los Angeles, West Hollywood and San Frsnsisco- thus Kerry took California. I’ve lived in WA., OR. and CA., so I understand the political environment in each........ The GOP needs to invest in a good campaign so that they can dethrone Senator Maria “Can’t Find One” Well.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
Hello,
I am new here and I have an accent so I hope you will forgive my typos...
I’ve been following this birth certificate story since a while. Here is what I read today and I will pass it on because it seems so important - just came up today on http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/ .
Here is the article:
URGENT!!! URGENT!!! - CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION Secretly Being Railroaded Through!!!
Posted 11 December, 2008 by doctorbulldog
Categories: Abuse of Power, Orwellian, politics
Yesterday, Ohio tried to become the 33rd state to vote in a Constitutional Convention!!!
This article is a day old, but it IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!
Here is my personal update to the story:
Due to public concern, the vote on Ohio House Joint Resolution 8 ( HJR 8 ) was TEMPORARILY halted, but it WILL come up again! - there are rumors it could be today or tomorrow!
Even the PETA-like Libtards are fighting against this!!!
http://www.peacechicken.com/2008/12/10/update-on-ohios-hjr-8-call-for-constitutional-convention
Only 34 states are needed to CHANGE THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!!!!
And, once a “Con Con” is approved — only two more states to go! — Congress (think Nancy Pelosi - Harry Reid) can select who will be on the committee to CHANGE the Constitution.
The states have NO CONTROL over what the committee decides to change in OUR CONSTITUTION!!!
They can change ANYTHING. And, it’s ALL LEGAL and binding!!
A list of the states that have secretly slipped this by the public can be viewed by CLICKING HERE.
Imagine my surprise when I discovered my state of Missouri on that list!!!
TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!!
WRITE EVERY PUBLIC SERVANT YOU KNOW!!!
H/T - az_conservative
U.S. Two States Away from Constitutional Convention
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This is the most urgent, most important action alert the American Policy Center has ever issued! The Ohio state legislature is expected to vote today, Wednesday, Dec. 10th, to call for a Constitutional Convention (Con Con). If Ohio calls for a Con Con only one more state need do so and Congress will have no choice but to convene a Convention, throwing our U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights up for grabs. Ohio’s vote today poses a grave threat to the U.S. Constitution. Please immediately call the Ohio lawmakers listed below. ACT FAST - time is of the essence!
I apologize! This malignancy most foul remained undetected by our radar until a good friend brought it to our attention yesterday. The hour is late, but WE MUST TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION!
It does not matter where you live. Ohio’s vote today endangers everyone in every state in the Union, so we must pressure Ohio lawmakers to discard this disastrous legislative effort.
Thirty-two (32) other states have already called for a Con Con (allegedly to add a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution). 34 states are all that is required, and then Congress MUST convene a Convention.
The U.S. Constitution places no restriction on the purposes for which the states can call for a Convention. If Ohio votes to call a Con Con, for whatever purpose, the United States will be only one state away from total destruction. And it’s a safe bet that those who hate this nation, and all She stands for, are waiting to pounce upon this opportunity to re-write our Constitution. We dare slumber no longer; we must take immediate action to preserve this nation!
Certainly all loyal Americans want government constrained by a balanced budget. But calling a Con Con risks a revolutionary change in our form of government. The ultimate outcome will likely be a new constitution; one that would possibly eliminate the Article 1 restriction to the coinage of real money or even eliminate gun or property rights. So what may look like a good idea to the legislators driving this effort - all Republicans - will certainly make them prey to the law of unintended consequences - at the very least insuring the U.S. will never have a balanced budget - while destroying what vestiges of liberty the government still allows.
You may have heard that some of those 32 states have voted to rescind their calls. This is true. However, under Article V of the Constitution, Congress must call a Constitutional Convention whenever 2/3 (or 34) of the states apply. The Constitution makes no provision for rescission. We’ve been told advocates of the convention are waiting to capture just two more states - Ohio, and one other. They can then challenge the other states’ rescissions in the courts while going ahead with the Convention. Congress alone then decides whether state legislatures or state conventions ratify proposed amendments.
You may have heard the states can control the subject of any convention. In truth no restrictive language from any state can legally limit the scope or outcome of a Convention! Once a Convention is called Congress determines how the delegates to the Convention are chosen. Once chosen, those Convention delegates possess more power than the U.S. Congress itself; if it were not so they would not be able to change the U.S. Constitution!
We have not had a Constitutional Convention since 1787. That Convention was called to make small changes in the Articles of Confederation. As a point of fact, several states first passed resolutions requiring their delegates discuss amendments to the Articles ONLY, forbidding even discussion of foundational changes. However, following the delegates’ first agreement that their meetings be in secret, their second act was to agree to debate those state restrictions and to declare the Articles of Confederation NULL AND VOID! They also changed the ratification process, reducing the required states’ approval from 100% to 75%. There is no reason to believe a contemporary Con Con wouldn’t further “modify” Article V restrictions to suit its purpose.
As former Chief Justice Warren Burger said in a letter written to Phyllis Schlafly, President of Eagle Forum:
“…there is no effective way to limit or muzzle the actions of a Constitutional Convention. The convention could make its own rules and set its own agenda. Congress might try to limit the convention to one amendment or to one issue, but there is no way to assure that the convention would obey. After a convention is convened, it will be too late to stop the convention if we don’t like its agenda. The meeting in 1787 ignored the limit placed by the confederation Congress…” (emphasis mine)
We were blessed in 1787; the Con Con delegates were the leaders of a freedom movement that had just cleansed this land of tyranny.
Today’s corrupt politicians and judges would like nothing better than the ability to legally ignore the Constitution - to modify its “problematic” provisions to reflect the philosophical and socials mores of our contemporary society.
The majority of U.S. voters just elected a dedicated leftist as President. Republicans are at their weakest right now! This is a horrible time to try such a crazy scheme. We cannot control the debate right now! Don’t for one second doubt that delegates to a Con Con wouldn’t revise the 1st Amendment into a government-controlled privilege, replace the 2nd Amendment with a “collective” right to self-defense, and abolish the 4th, 5th, and 10th Amendments, and the rest of the Bill of Rights. Additions could include the non-existent Separation of Church and State, the “right” to abortion and euthanasia, and much, much more.
Our uniquely and purely American concept of individual rights, endowed by our Creator, would be quickly set aside as an anachronistic relic of a bygone era; replaced by new “collective” rights, awarded and enforced by government for the “common good”.
The problems our nation faces are not a result of deficiencies in our Constitution; rather, they are the direct result of our disregard for that divinely-inspired document of liberty.
There is no challenge faced by this nation that cannot be solved either by enforcing existing law, or in limited cases, by writing new law. We do not need, AND MUST NOT RISK THE LIBERTY OF THE UNITED STATES with, a Constitutional Convention!
Ohio must not vote for a Con Con! We cannot control the debate! And state #34 is likely sitting silently in the wings, ready to act with lightning speed, sealing the fate of our once great nation before we can prevent it.
Stop the Ohio bill and we can stop the Constitutional Convention.
ACTION TO TAKE
We need only stop the House bill, HJR8, sponsored by Representative Louis Blessing, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee (there is a Senate bill too).
1. Call Chairman Blessing’s office and tell his staff you oppose a Constitutional Convention and you want this process stopped.
Tell them this is the most dangerous time ever to call for such a convention.
Tell them no one can control the debate or outcome of a Con Con.
Representative Louis Blessing
Phone: (614) 466-9091
Fax: (614) 719-3583
Email: district29@ohr.state.oh.us
2. Call Representative Bill Batchelder. He is a very good man. I’ve known him for years. But he has been misled on this issue. The word is he is wavering. Your calls can convince him to withdraw his support. That can kill this bill.
Representative Bill Batchelder
Phone: (614) 466-8140
Fax: (614) 719-3969
Email: district69@ohr.state.oh.us
3. It is URGENT that you make your calls right now. The bill could be voted on as early as this afternoon (Wednesday).
I’m so sorry for this late notice. We just found out about this last night.
Please get this message out far and wide. This task requires our very best effort! E-mail and call your friends, family and neighbors. Network anywhere and everywhere possible. If you know someone who never takes action, encourage them to break that habit this one time. Our Constitution is under assault!
Visit the American Policy Center website
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Just tell us which Hospital he was born and the Doctor’s name? Have not heard the answer.
Keep them coming. The shadow is getting longer and darker. I’m beginning to wonder if there will even be an inaugaration.
Yes, but for the McCain/Palin or McCain/Biden ticket.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
We know which Kenya hospital Obama was born in, but not the Hawaii hospital that he was born in.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
THAT's a new one!
So true!
Semetic Egyptians are 'african'
Black Sudanese are 'african'
White folk of South AFRICA is 'african'
No, there is no such varmit.
the three major races of man, Caucasoids, Negroids, and Mongoloids.
What information would a ‘birth certificate’ that had ‘AMERICAN’ for MOTHER’s race be understood?
How times have changed.
As a young "Junior Dealer", I trudged through snow and ice, sun and rain delivering the Chronicle and Review. Back in those days, Cowles Pub was a very Conservative paper.
Are the Plaintiffs from E. WA?
you can certainly scratch RINO or Obot off that list.
You're joking, right?
Probably typed too fast...
African is not a race. It’s a person born in the Continent of AFRICA.
It’s not a nationality, either.
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