OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL Thousands advise electors to check eligibility

WND ^ | December 13, 2008 | WorldNetDaily

[ckilmer]

If documents some day prove Barack Obama is not eligible to be president under the U.S. Constitution, none of the 538 Electoral College members who vote him into office Monday will be able to claim ignorance.

That's after 3,653 citizens had enough concern over the allegations, they participated in a WND effort to deliver letters to every elector, urging them to investigate.

[ridesthemiles]

As long as one parent is a US citizen, a person is born a citizen. The US has never recognized other countries claims to US citizens (in part why the War of 1812 was fought). No court is going to rule otherwise. SCOTUS just looked at this issue and rejected it (again). This stuff just makes conservatives look kooky. I suggest spending time and energy on fighting about issues instead.””

Please go back and read some of the prior threads on this topic.

Stanley Ann would have had to be at least 19 years old under the laws of the USA at the time of NObama’s birth.

She was only 18.

[Yaelle]

From the article:

The Post itself, in fact, claimed the "allegations have been repeatedly debunked by the Obama campaign and news outlets."

Didn't President Clinton and all his cabinet members "debunk" the rumor that Monica was crawling under his desk?

[HighlyOpinionated]

This stuff just makes conservatives look kooky. I suggest spending time and energy on fighting about issues instead.

I disagree. It makes Conservatives look like students of the Constitution and followers thereof.

I suggest you listen to or read The Federalist Papers. We've "conveniently forgotten" what our Fore Fathers said. It's time to recall and restudy. Past time.
http://www.americanaphonic.com/

[HighlyOpinionated]

I swear, this week we get a real controversy involving corruption and bribery and you people still want to chase after this windmill? How many times will a court have to say "no dice" before you finally give this nonsense up?

As Long As It Takes To Get To The Truth!

Veritas vos Liberabit!

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Ahhh, yes, like the “you hate/don’t care about/want to shred the constitution” bit isn’t stale? It’s a crutch you stand on because you know there is no rhyme or reason to believe the truther garbage (”I’ve seen no real reason to believe that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii, but I’ve seen lots of rumors and innuendo, and dang it, I’m really fighting for the Constitution if I spread this baseless smear!”).

[TNoldman]

ping BHO BC

[missnry]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2148287/posts
How’s BROE V REED sound? The Washington Supreme Court has set a date for the case Broe v. Reed, to be heard en banc on January 8, 2009. All the “kooks” will be looking at this one! It has a nice ring to its name as well!

[Yaelle]

The liberal argument always has to end with name-calling. Alinsky worship actually compels followers to engage in ridicule.

Allow me to embrace the pejorative “truther.” All I ever want is the truth. Each person elected to POTUS needs to prove he meets the three qualifications. Does Obama? Probably. But there are some doubts that he needs to quash.

If a guy who looks like a teenager wants to buy a sixpack, but he is actually 23, we still need to see his ID. Miller Time is thereafter.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Well, we know the truth. Obama was born in Hawaii. Now will you give it up?

[Eye of Unk]

Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can.
Samuel Adams

He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon will be, void of all regard for his country. There is seldom an instance of a man guilty of betraying his country, who had not before lost the feeling of moral obligations in his private connections.
Samuel Adams

How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!
Samuel Adams

It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.
Samuel Adams

It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.
Samuel Adams

Mankind are governed more by their feelings than by reason.
Samuel Adams

Our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty.
Samuel Adams

The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.
Samuel Adams

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending against all hazards: And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks.
Samuel Adams

The natural liberty of man is to be free from any superior power on Earth, and not to be under the will or legislative authority of man, but only to have the law of nature for his rule.
Samuel Adams

We cannot make events. Our business is wisely to improve them.
Samuel Adams

And a quote that’s directly related to current events:

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Hmm, I don’t recall “show an ID” as one of the requirements in the Constitution. It’s completely absurd that this story keeps getting brought up. It doesn’t help our side, it only helps Obama. He has already given proof of his eligibility, he doesn’t have to do more just because a bunch of conspiracy theorists reject either the authenticity or the relevance of the document. The courts are obviously satisfied. 99% of Americans are pretty much satisfied. The bantering of a small minority on the Internet cannot and will not change the fundamental truth the Obama is an American citizen and is eligible for the presidency.

[The Sons of Liberty]

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born citizen,

You absolutely know this for a fact, do you?

[real_patriotic_american]

We know where Obama was born in Kenya, but nobody knows where he was born in Hawaii.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244

[TheConservativeParty]

If Obama was born in Kenya, he is not a natural born US citizen, no matter who his parents were.

There is speculation that after he was born in Kenya... (and Kenyans now revel in the fact that he was born there and they know exactly the place)... his mother returned to Hawaii, where until 1973, they issued a birth cerificate that is different from the one required to be POTUS. Having a Hawaiian BC means nothing, since they would issue it to any child born outside the USA, if one parent had resided in Hawaii.

That is why the Hawaiian BC is sealed. It would reveal he was not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya.

Also note that investigators have called every Hawaiian hospital to see if O was born at any of them and none have answered in the affirmative.

If he was an honest man, and a genuine natural born US citizen he would have not spent a million dollars in lawyers to hide his worthless sealed Hawaiian BC. He is not a natural born citizen. Any of us would be able to show our US COLBs in 5 minutes. He will not do the same. He is a liar.

[Nipfan]

“Well, we know the truth. Obama was born in Hawaii. Now will you give it up?”

The only truth we know is that you’re an (probably profesional) Obama supporter.

[RegulatorCountry]

He has already given proof of his eligibility

An image was posted to a website or websites, with the certification number blacked out, which invalidates the "certificate," regardless of whether this image is otherwise authentic or not.

So, no, he hasn't given proof of his eligibility.

[patriot08]

Go back to DU.
Nobody wants you on these threads.

[Cheerio]

Auger will vote for Obama Monday along with Colorado electors Margaret Atencio of Denver, Polly Baca of Denver, Ann Knollman of Arvada, Terry Phillips of Louisville, Pam Shaddock of Greeley, Don Strickland of Centennial, Jennifer Trujillo-Sanchez of Colorado Springs and Wellington Webb of Denver. She ridiculed those with concerns about Obama's eligibility. "I took them seriously enough that I was concerned that there are that many nutty people in the country making depressing, absurd allegations," she told the Denver Post. "There are so many problems in the country right now, we need to work together."

I'll tell you what Ms. Auger - I fully intend to give you zer0bama the same respect and civility in order to 'come together in unity' that you marxist side gave to President #43. That is my pledge to the liberal left wackos like Camilla Auger who spends some of her time "teaching Marxist theory at a university," she was upset that anyone would raise concerns about Obama.

[bossmechanic]

Yours is the poorest excuse for aa educated opinion as I have ever seen.
“I’m right, you’re wrong, that’s all there is to it.”
That’s it? That’s your arguement?

If ever there was a snot nose, acne embellished child stuck in his parents basement,
It would be U.

And it’s well past your bedtime twerp.

[El Gato]

As long as one parent is a US citizen, a person is born a citizen.

That turns out not to be the case. The law has changed from time to time.

In 1961 when Obama was born, and for decades before and after, the law required that the US Citizen parent to have lived in the US for a total of at least 10 years, Obama's mother had, but it also required that at least 5 of those years be after the parent's 14th birthday. Obama's mother had not. She was only 18 when Barrack was born, and only 17 when she got pregnant. Thus, if BHO was born outside the US he was not a citizen at birth. (The current law requires 5 years, 2 after the 14th birthday. IMHO, that is not enough to satisfy the intent of the Natural Born, provision of the Constitution, but it is the current law).